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[BlazingDarkness]

What you mean a real price cut? It's not dropping any more than it already has. And by major titles are you expecting someone to announce a AAA Vita game?

He's clearly saying if it had those things, not claiming it will do.

 

[Mario007]

With so many new releases hitting the charts for PS3, you'd think that system would see a hardware bump, not the Vita. It's weird.

I'd say there's a market saturation for the ps3 at that price point. Once it gets a discount this year we'll probably see it surge for the last time for a few weeks and that's it for the PS3 in Japan.

 

[shinra-bansho]

Surprised by Vita being up. Capture that Otaku market.

Is Golden Week the next reporting period?

Well, that's what I get for not realizing that the Saturday/Sunday before GW were effectively part of GW. Derp.

Tell that to Nintendo.

 

[darkside31337]

Well, that's what I get for not realizing that the Saturday/Sunday before GW were effectively part of GW. Derp.

And yet the Vita was the only one that was significantly up.

Maybe you were just wrong?

 

[JoeM86]

Surprised by Vita being up. Capture that Otaku market.

Is Golden Week the next reporting period?

Yep, it certainly is

 

[zroid]

Wait...

Media create

PSV | 21.399


Famitsu

PSV | 17.070

doomed

 

[test_account]

It's a shame the Wii U sales didn't bump up due to Pokémon Scramble U's release on Wednesday. Even though they get retail attention, digital only titles just don't seem to pull it in.

That said, it's #3 in the All-Time sales charts on the Wii U eShop, so it has sold reasonably well

What are #1 and #2? New Super Mario Bros U and NintendoLand?

I wonder how much Pokémon Scramble U sold. It also had a retail download card. Famitsu track those, so it sold less than 4.116 copies at least (seeing that it is not within the Top 30).

 

[Rolf NB]

When they do their recovery plan i.e. release titles, and there's no bump, then you can mock. Until then, come on...

Other systems have that same "recovery plan" happening every couple weeks.

 

[SmokyDave]

When they do their recovery plan i.e. release titles, and there's no bump, then you can mock. Until then, come on...

Nah, you can definitely mock the Wii-U, it's a disaster. Not long until the PSP overtakes it for the year.

 

[metalslimer]

When they do their recovery plan i.e. release titles, and there's no bump, then you can mock. Until then, come on...

Nah, I'll mock them now. It isn't happening.

He's clearly saying if it had those things, not claiming it will do.

What's a real price cut though? The current price for Vita is perfectly fine and any lower and they would actually undercut the 3DS. They also knocked off 10k yen on the 3G model.

 

[electroplankton]

16./31. [3DS] Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission <TBL> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.02.28} (¥5.800) - 8.834 / 169.866 <80-100%> (+283%)

Takao, are you there?!

 

[Father_Brain]

No excuses!

Everything sold practically the same as last week except the Vita (and the 3DS for obvious reasons). It would be really strange if the Vita was the only system affected by this saturday/sunday GW bump.

Fair enough, probably primarily a stock replenishment. The two games that charted this week seem like they'd sell to the existing userbase, though it's impossible to say for sure.

 

[maabus1999]

Famitsu Top 30

[360] 5
[WIU] 0

Yeah that is shocking. That means not a SINGLE Wii U software title is selling more then 4400 retail....

That means two things: A.) The 8000 people buying Wii U's aren't rushing to get titles and/or B.) Nintendo doesn't have a single hit software title where at least 50% of the new owners want to pick it up, plus any late comers.

That possible factoid is way more damning towards the Wii U then 8000 units sold. It doesn't move any software in retail stores, and therefore, may lose retailer support completely (if it hasn't already). Who would waste shelf space on the thing...

 

[BlazingDarkness]

When they do their recovery plan i.e. release titles, and there's no bump, then you can mock. Until then, come on...

:lol

 

[javac]

doomed

But seriously am I missing something?

Seems like a big difference!

 

[Rolf NB]

I'd say there's a market saturation for the ps3 at that price point. Once it gets a discount this year we'll probably see it surge for the last time for a few weeks and that's it for the PS3 in Japan.

Careful there. I've been crucified before for bringing up the S-word in a Media Create thread. Though that was about the DS.

 

[Takao]

Famitsu and Media Create are quite off this week outside of just Vita:

Famitsu:
16./31. [3DS] Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission <TBL> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.02.28} (¥5.800) - 8.834 / 169.866 <80-100%> (+283%)

It's not even in the top 20 for Media Create.

I imagine the game rose due to Toei's last promotional push for Battle of Gods but I'm not sure it went up that much ...

 

[JoeM86]

What are #1 and #2? New Super Mario Bros U and NintendoLand?

I wonder how much Pokémon Scramble U sold. It also had a retail download card. Famitsu track those, so it sold less than 4.116 copies at least (seeing that it is not within the Top 30).

#1 Dragon Quest X
#2 Kirby's Adventure

NSMBU is #5 iirc, my Japanese Wii U is currently unplugged.

While Famitsu does track retail cards, it seems that it doesn't seem to track ones that are digital only.

Nah, you can definitely mock the Wii-U, it's a disaster. Not long until the PSP overtakes it for the year.

I was more referring to those who expected it to suddenly turn around with no reason. As the Vita has demonstrated, if you release games for the system, it'll sell. No games have been released.

 

[QaaQer]

Yeah that is shocking. That means not a SINGLE Wii U software title is selling more then 4400 retail....

That means two things: A.) The 8000 people buying Wii U's aren't rushing to get titles and/or B.) Nintendo doesn't have a single hit software title where at least 50% of the new owners want to pick it up, plus any late comers.

That possible factoid is way more damning towards the Wii U then 8000 units sold. It doesn't move any software in retail stores, and therefore, may lose retailer support completely (if it hasn't already). Who would waste shelf space on the thing...

They could be buying wii games for it.

 

[orioto]

What you mean a real price cut? It's not dropping any more than it already has. And by major titles are you expecting someone to announce a AAA Vita game?

I don't know how much is it already now ? Is it as cheap as the 3ds ?
AAA title well, at least it could receive some S-E love for exemple. I'm not expecting DQ11 but you know, even a real exclusive ip from S-E could be good. Something like Bravely Default could sell pretty good on a dynamic vita market. You don't need millions of budget to release an efficient new ip on a portable like that.

And don't forget some obvious psp sellers are still announced. A content driven Dissidia with great graphics and online play could do really good in Japan. 3ds didn't steal every psp historical ips yet.

 

[SmokyDave]

But seriously am I missing something?

Seems like a big difference!

Famitsu doesn't count downloaded Vitas.


...I have no idea.

 

[Magicpaint]

Famitsu Top 30

[360] 5
[WIU] 0

lul.

 

[Bruno MB]

#1 Dragon Quest X
#2 Kirby's Adventure

NSMBU is #5 iirc, my Japanese Wii U is currently unplugged.

While Famitsu does track retail cards, it seems that it doesn't seem to track ones that are digital only.



I was more referring to those who expected it to suddenly turn around with no reason. As the Vita has demonstrated, if you release games for the system, it'll sell. No games have been released.

They track them too.

 

[BishopLamont]

Taiko could be selling a few Wii U's every week. Or its just otakus buying them atm and just download eshop stuff.

 

[metalslimer]

I was more referring to those who expected it to suddenly turn around with no reason. As the Vita has demonstrated, if you release games for the system, it'll sell. No games have been released.

Considering the next real release isn't until July the idea that Wii U will have one of the greatest turnarounds ever to be able to sell 9 million this fiscal year is pretty suspect/

I don't know how much is it already now ? Is it as cheap as the 3ds ?

Why should it be? It's slightly more expensive than the XL

 

[electroplankton]

Yeah that is shocking. That means not a SINGLE Wii U software title is selling more then 4400 retail....

That means two things: A.) The 8000 people buying Wii U's aren't rushing to get titles and/or B.) Nintendo doesn't have a single hit software title where at least 50% of the new owners want to pick it up, plus any late comers.

That possible factoid is way more damning towards the Wii U then 8000 units sold. It doesn't move any software in retail stores, and therefore, may lose retailer support completely (if it hasn't already). Who would waste shelf space on the thing...

NSMBU and Nintendo Land floated in the Top 30 until last week, so they might well be just outside the chart and along Game&Wario and DQX the total software sales might be above 8000 units.

Famitsu and Media Create are quite off this week outside of just Vita:

Famitsu:
16./31. [3DS] Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission <TBL> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.02.28} (¥5.800) - 8.834 / 169.866 <80-100%> (+283%)

It's not even in the top 20 for Media Create.

I imagine the game rose due to Toei's last promotional push for Battle of Gods but I'm not sure it went up that much ...

Wasn't the game sold-out few weeks ago? That might be a reason why it increased.

 

[allan-bh]

I'm sorry that Capcom was been succeeded with this:

[PS3] Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen (Capcom) 125,363 / NEW

Where is my DLC?

 

[maabus1999]

They could be buying wii games for it.

Well Wii games aren't selling off the shelves either. And if true (though I find it a little of a stretch being the Wii U games would be next to the unit), then Nintendo's marketing failure is complete...

 

[ULTROS!]

Famitsu Top 30

[360] 5
[WIU] 0

Wii U deader than 360.

 

[Daingurse]

COME ON VIIIIIIITAAAAA!

Phew, that was exciting.

It lives! LOL

 

[test_account]

#1 Dragon Quest X
#2 Kirby's Adventure

NSMBU is #5 iirc, my Japanese Wii U is currently unplugged.

While Famitsu does track retail cards, it seems that it doesn't seem to track ones that are digital only.

Thanks =) I forgot about Dragon Quest X, makes sense why that is #1.

That might be a possibility regarding how Famitsu tracks download cards, but do we know this for sure? Pity that Media Create doesnt track them, otherwise we might have had some indication when we get the Top 50 (if Pokémon Scramble U had sold enough to chart within the Top 50 of course).

 

[Takamura-San]

Rise Vita

 

[electroplankton]

I don't know how much is it already now ? Is it as cheap as the 3ds ?
AAA title well, at least it could receive some S-E love for exemple. I'm not expecting DQ11 but you know, even a real exclusive ip from S-E could be good. Something like Bravely Default could sell pretty good on a dynamic vita market. You don't need millions of budget to release an efficient new ip on a portable like that.

Why putting effort in developing something complex when portings, MH clones and otaku games sell just fine?

 

[JoeM86]

They track them too.

Not from what I have seen, unless you have examples of them doing so

Considering the next real release isn't until July the idea that Wii U will have one of the greatest turnarounds ever to be able to sell 9 million this fiscal year is pretty suspect/

Nonsense, it's fully doable

 

[BronsonLee]

Why putting effort in developing something complex when portings, MH clones and otaku games sell just fine?

Dat backhand compliment

 

[Hero of Legend]

Famitsu and Media Create are quite off this week outside of just Vita:

Famitsu:
16./31. [3DS] Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission <TBL> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.02.28} (¥5.800) - 8.834 / 169.866 <80-100%> (+283%)

It's not even in the top 20 for Media Create.

I imagine the game rose due to Toei's last promotional push for Battle of Gods but I'm not sure it went up that much ...

Is the game on eShop and sold as DD cards? Famitsu does track those. But yeah, otherwise that's bizarre.

 

[SmokyDave]

Why putting effort in developing something complex when portings, MH clones and otaku games sell just fine?

Is it stinging? It's stinging, isn't it.

 

[metalslimer]

Not from what I have seen, unless you have examples of them doing so



Nonsense, it's fully doable

Based on?

 

[maabus1999]

NSMBU and Nintendo Land floated in the Top 30 until last week, so they might well be just outside the chart and along Game&Wario and DQX the total software sales might be above 8000 units.

I'm comparing Wii U units sold this week (8,000) to no Wii U software breaking 4,000 units this week (in retail). So either everyone buys it digitally (which I find asinine because of Nintendo's digital policy) or no Wii U title is reaching a 50% attach rate with new purchasers. Add in that there isn't that many titles out there so the purchasing spread will be small, I'm just seeing bad news all around.

 

[michaelius]

I guess I was wrong with everything going up this week.

And i was expecting at least one or two of those rereleased titles would chart.

 

[test_account]

But seriously am I missing something?

Seems like a big difference!

Sometimes there is a noticeable difference between the trackers. It also happen to software sales. I guess it is just because that they dont use the exact tracking method/formula.

 

[javac]

Famitsu doesn't count downloaded Vitas.


...I have no idea.

For a minute I actually believe you lol I was like "Downloaded Vita's...of course! Wait a minute!"

 

[orioto]

Why putting effort in developing something complex when portings, MH clones and otaku games sell just fine?

Cause a company has to try things and be a little offensive and ahead or it dies ?
Why do you think they release something like Bravely default to begin with. It's important to create new ips and linking them to a console community can help.

 

[Takao]

Is the game on eShop and sold as DD cards? Famitsu does track those. But yeah, otherwise that's bizarre.

Last time I checked Nintendo's site it's not available digitally.

 

[strangedopamine]

22./09. [3DS] Tousouchuu: Shijou Saikyou no Hunter-Tachi Kara Nigekire! <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.07.05} (¥5.040) - 5.815 / 466.318 <80-100%> (-11%)

It just keeps on going...

 

[Mr_Antimatter]

Helps Photo Kano that the anime is also running now, which has got to be raising the profile for the games.

 

[JoeM86]

Based on?

Past instances of massive turnarounds

 

[electroplankton]

I'm comparing Wii U units sold this week (8,000) to no Wii U software breaking 4,000 units this week (in retail). So either everyone buys it digitally (which I find asinine because of Nintendo's digital policy) or no Wii U title is reaching a 50% attach rate with new purchasers. Add in that there isn't that many titles out there so the purchasing spread will be small, I'm just seeing bad news all around.

Or simply sales are dispersed among 4 titles? Until last week or so, we had NL, NSMBU, G&W and DQX in the Top30. G&W was at 3.9k units. This week we had plenty of releases that pushed back many small sellers. The top50 from MC should give us an idea.

 

[Magicpaint]

Famitsu tracking the PS2 again???

 

[maabus1999]

Based on?

I think sarcasm, hehe.

Anyways, lets say Nintendo continues to sell, what, 100K units a month worldwide until July? That means 300K for the 1st quarter? That leaves 8.7 million for the next 9 months, so for good measure round it to 9 million to make it a million a month.

Yes Nintendo will have to increase Wii U sales by 1000% to reach their forecast. And base off approximate demographics, 500K a month in the US, 300K a month in Japan, and 200K Europe/rest of the world.

NO chance in hell....it is just investor fluff that is going to bite them in the ass hard.