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Football Thread |OT19| LA DECIMATED
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Do you think he'll spend this summer? I imagine the worry for Arsenal is that if you come 3rd, either the board or Wenger will think that not too much investment is required, when in reality that's just papering over the cracks.
We were the perfect example of that. The drop off from 08 season to 09/10 was terrifying.
Looks like Suso.
Latest rumor I saw last night was that Richards could be included in the deal for Cavani. If we can sign him at that price.. brilliant. New signings shouldn't come in at our wage ceiling. Play well for a year or two and then get a better deal. I'm sure the bonuses would be quite significant. If FM is to be believed, all these guys are commanding £20-30k per goal.
Man, Welberg gonna have to eat at Nandos.
Europa League.
He will spend. I can't see Arsenal not bringing in one or two players.
Think he's given up on Diaby for good? Because we desperately need a holding midfielder.
Not sure he'd join a championship side.
TheLucifer
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@ACMilan: Milan-Ajax, scheduled on May 25th in Beijing, is canceled due to organizational reasons.
Organizational reasons being "nobody really cared about this game, including us and Ajax. Oh well, enjoy your CL final people."
Organizational reasons being "nobody really cared about this game, including us and Ajax. Oh well, enjoy your CL final people."
Frank the Great
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amu will probably be a primavera player, no? if salamon wasn't able to see a minute this season i doubt this kid will. i don't know anything about the colombian league so i don't know if 30 appearances for an 18 year old CB is a sign of talent or if the league is really that shitty.
i'd take fabregas in a second but LOL it is never happening.
I spent way too much time thinking about this but in any case, no that would be pretty terrible in most cases.
First of all, bear in mind that Liverpool are currently on track to be pretty close to such a points total. If we consider that the standard 4th place points total is 70 (which it seems likely that Arsenal or Tottenham will end up on; their maximums are 73 and 74 respectively) then Liverpool would be 7 points off if they win all their remaining games. Naturally Liverpool may not do that, but on the assumption Liverpool get roughly half of the remaining points, 5, then they would still be on 59 - thus the next season would be an improvement of 3 points. What I'm saying is that such a season would barely represent an improvement at all - advancing at such a rate it would take Rodgers 10 years to get Liverpool to a title winning position.
Now this begs the question of what would be an improvement. Thus we first need some kind of reliable indication of how Liverpool should perform next season. First we would take this seasons point total - let's say 61 points meaning Liverpool get 7 in the remaining games. So the baseline for Liverpool is a minimum of 61 to have any improvement. But, here we must consider that a team's ability can change over the course of a season - the January transfer window being a prime example. So let's look at PPG in 2 halves:
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Liverpool :1.31
1.81
Everton : 1.74
1.62
Tottenham :1.74
1.93
Arsenal : 1.74
1.94The table demonstrates First 19 games compared to next 16 (15 for Spurs). As you can see, Liverpool witnessed a significant increase in the latter part of the season, which if replicated next season would give them 69 points. Now, here again we mus make the point: we cannot draw any real implications from data that may merely be random. Changes in one half to the other may be purely random chance and not indicative of any real changes in a team's ability. So keep a pinch of salt in mind when drawing anything from these figures.
That being said, Liverpool is perhaps the most significant change, given that they had 2 impactful January purchases, plus the expected improvement from 'adjustment to Rodgers' (Tottenham would also be influenced by adjustment to AVB).
In summation, I think that Liverpool's current aim should be 69 points for next season (taking into account the fact that random chance is a significant influence, this would represent an improvement I feel). Now this is purely a current speculation, it is based only on what we know now. The summer will bring significant changes that can have a huge impact on what expectations are; some possible future variables to consider are below:
Liverpool - Likely limited summer outlay; Possibility of major player departures; Large number of youth could see larger than expected improvement
Arsenal - Much depends on their transfers; Without knowing Cl places much is unpredictable; Manager situation also a factor
Tottenham - Also dependant on Cl places; Could also see major departures
Everton - Financial situation means likely to have to sell once again.
You know you're having a bad season when even Liverpool fans can troll you.
You're definitely DC89.
Don't ever change. Ever.
And large penises.
Baconsaurus Rex
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She likes motherfucking avocados fuck yeah. Going to make avocado salad for dinner and have home made guacamole tonight.
Vivalaraza
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Liverpool should be competing for 4th spot next year, whether they get it or not to have improved significantly I think they need to be in the hunt with 3/4 games of the season left to play.
A better time to adjust the expectation would be, as you say, after the transfer window. But I sense Liverpool will spend just as much if not more than either Spurs or Arsenal so certainly being in contention for the top 4 is IMO the minimum Liverpool should be aiming for next season.
So let's talk history now. Frank de Boer can add him self to a very select group of people at the club. Before De Boer only Rinus Michels and Louis van Gaal managed to win three titles in a row at Ajax. And then imagine he's only been our manager for 2,5 years now.
But in the end managers don't matter. We all know that.
But in the end managers don't matter. We all know that.
Willkiller
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HHHNNNGG
Vivalaraza
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de Boer is going to be Barca manager eventually isn't he?
He turned down a City offer last season. I really can't preditct where he'll end up. Seeing Barca and us share the same idea of football it would make sense though. He also once said he wanted to be our SAF. But I don't see that happening to be honest.
Interesting, haven't heard that rumor before. I know there has been a rumor we're interested in him this season though and he mentioned he'd love to coach at Man City but wasn't ready to do so just yet.
Oh, wait I'm confusing things now. He supposedly turned down Liverpool (in their search for a manager to follow up Dalglish) and Spartak Moscow (who cares?). And according to most rumours City placed him on top of the list as a replacement for Mancini.
But he ain't going nowhere this summer, he's about to sign a new contract till 2017.
Actually just waiting for the end of the season could provide a much better picture. And really mine was very basic analysis, I lack the stats skills to do much more ( like I wanted to examine the PPG stuff in more detail, breaking it down further and weighting for difficulty of matches but thats way beyond my skills and time).
In any case I disagree that Liverpool will spend as much as Arsenal or Tottenham. If Tottenham finish 4th then I expect them to spend heavily on a marquee signing and they'll spend more than Arse/Pool. If Arsenal finish 4th then perhaps they'll do their usual transfer incompetence but you never know when one year they might actually get serious and spend big. Liverpool will have money to spend but if Arsenal or Tottenham really go all out they won't match them.
De Boer was boss. I loved that Barca team. Kluivert, Figo, Rivaldo, Enrique. Time flies ;_;
De Boer to Rivaldo:
Plus if Suarez goes, we should get a minimum of at least £40m. I have being think recently if it would be worthwhile to cash in on Suarez. As amazing as he is it may serve us well to strength our squad all over. If you look at our bench we lack players. New centre half, extra left back, extra defensive midfielder, extra winger would do our squad wonders.
Beat me to it, was about to post this. I'm happy.
sc Heerenveen neemt na seizoen afscheid van Djuricic
Gepubliceerd op 3 mei 2013 16:16
sc Heerenveen neemt na dit seizoen afscheid van Filip Djuricic. De 21-jarige Servische international vertrekt deze zomer naar Benfica, dat zich donderdag ten koste van Fenerbahçe voor de finale van de Europa League plaatste. Filip Djuricic stond nog één seizoen onder contract bij sc Heerenveen.
Filip Djuricic kwam in 2009 over van het Servische Radnicki Obrenovac. Het jonge talent maakte op 20 februari 2010, in de uitwedstrijd tegen RKC Waalwijk, zijn debuut in de hoofdmacht van sc Heerenveen. Djuricic was meteen van waarde, want in het met 1-2 gewonnen uitduel was de Serviër na een fraaie actie de aangever bij de 0-1 van Gerald Sibon.
Filip Djuricic kwam in 98 competitiewedstrijden voor sc Heerenveen in actie. Daarin was hij goed voor twintig treffers. Zijn eerste doelpunt scoorde Djuricic op 6 maart 2010 in de met 4-1 verloren uitwedstrijd tegen AZ.
Technisch directeur Johan Hansma noemt de transfer van Djuricic naar de 32-voudig landskampioen en huidige koploper van Portugal fantastisch voor de speler, maar ook voor sc Heerenveen. ,,Het is een mooi visitekaartje voor Heerenveen dat Djuricic naar een grote Europese club vertrekt, aldus Johan Hansma.
De Serviër heeft zich de afgelopen twee seizoenen in snel tempo ontwikkeld en groeide uit tot één van de sterkhouders en smaakmakers van het huidige sc Heerenveen. Johan Hansma: ,,Als voetballiefhebbers betreuren wij het vertrek van Filip, want hij heeft ons vele mooie momenten bezorgd. Filip is echter toe aan de volgende stap in zijn carrière. Wij gunnen hem deze transfer dan ook van harte.
Een vertrek uit Friesland was volgens Johan Hansma onvermijdelijk. Een jaar geleden zijn daarom al afspraken gemaakt over de toekomst van Filip Djuricic. ,,Dankzij onze goede relatie hebben we dit scenario al ruim een jaar geleden door kunnen nemen. Wij hopen dat als wij de play-offs halen Filip ons nog kan helpen te kwalificeren voor Europees voetbal en dat hij voor Benfica net zo belangrijk wordt als hij dat voor ons is geweest.
Vivalaraza
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I'm not sure Spurs or Arsenal have the means to spend something like £40m net which Liverpool have done in the last two seasons. Perhaps with the CL money one of them will be able to but I'd be surprised, it would be completely unprecedented for either of them.
You mean after we beat a hopeless Newcastle side six nil?
That's a misnomer, if we've got any hope of returning to the Champions League we need Suarez.
Huh?
Of course Arsenal do, they've got Champions League qualification and Premier League television rights. They possess the ability to spend far more than we do, but they choose not to do so. Spurs are the more limited of the three, but they've been efficient in their dealings and have grown their commercial arm alongside that.
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