Mad Men - Season 6 - Sundays on AMC
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Seriously it was a well earned pay off from viewers, this sort of thing has been simmering in the background for seasons yet and now it happened. I can't believe it was the mid season either... shit was almost like a season finale episode. Certainly was far more packed than Season 4 (Megan proposal) or 5 finale (getting a second floor)
So is Ted Chaough supposed to be likable now? I'd considered him the villain on the show before this. I guess I totally misread the scenes with him earlier in the season, I thought he was still being a creep but I guess that was supposed to be setting the stage for him being a sympathetic character.
An excellent, classic episode.
An excellent, classic episode.
HP_Wuvcraft
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This really was a Season Finale episode. It got me all pumped for the rest of the season.
CarbonatedFalcon
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But yeah, someone is definitely going to (better!) die from Pete's gun before the series is done.
Longest Chekhov's ever.
Longest Chekhov's ever.
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HOLY SNAP WHAT HAPPENED.
This was Top 5 (Top 3?) Mad Men episode ever and the best one since The Suitcase, easily. Freaking incredible really.
ThisWreckage
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Don Draper is one fascinating character. He's a wreck of a human being. Deeply flawed and now he has wavering talent. But it doesn't matter because in the end he always seems to be one step ahead even though he seems like he's two steps behind. His entire existence is a clusterfuck and he still walks away unscathed.
metalslimer
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Someone has probaby already mentioned this, but the references to Don's death/suicide were once again very apparent. Megan's "jump out of your window and fly away" and "write it on your tombstone". Of course with Weiner, by the end of this series we probably won't get complete closure one way or the other, but Don will probably be completely destroyed.
I think that's what makes the show work. Don is self-destructive and morose, but in those moments when he gets his shit together? Shit is together. He goes through these long periods of drowning and then explodes in really satisfying ways.
Damn, I love this show.
ThisWreckage
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It's definitely what makes the show work for me. He's the only character that remotely fascinates me.
Got to live up to the intro. Falling out of a building.
metalslimer
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As much of a weasel as Pete is, his character is also very interesting to me because Pete is always one step away from having some kind of true happiness until either he or someone else rips it away from him while things just come naturally to Don and he takes every bit of it completely for granted. It's no wonder Pete despises Don.
Charrettizard
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Don is going to fall down that empty elevator shaft.
Pete goes home to his chip n dip, and rifle every night, and cries himself to sleep.
If this is what happens, you better believe he's going after Don.
BertramCooper
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I kind of feel bad for Peggy.
I know she just got a massive promotion and all, but now she's stuck behind Don's shadow again.
I know she just got a massive promotion and all, but now she's stuck behind Don's shadow again.
Davey Cakes
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Don't be mean.
I think he makes up for it with the sideburns.
You weren't feeling enthusiastic because Season 5 represented a downward slope, or because Season 5 was so good that the follow-up couldn't top it?
Personally, I think S5 is one of the best seasons. It struck the right chord with me from episode to episode.
I feel like the only one who didn't particularly enjoy Season 3 as much as the rest.
BertramCooper
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I'm quite surprised because I've long predicted that SC/SCDP would end up dead by the time the show ended.
That seems unlikely to happen now.
That seems unlikely to happen now.
I believe he actually shaves is like that to get that effect. Quite a commitment to a role.
It's my favorite part of the show.
Has anyone else noted Don's creative style this season? In his pitches, the product goes unseen -- first with Heinz ketchup, then Chevy. He's more in tune with the idea of something, rather the actual thing as it presents itself. It's no wonder Don hit a homerun on project-Camaro, Chevy didn't even provide a picture or name. That's Don.
BertramCooper
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they go with Ted's pitch?
Davey Cakes
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First Google search result for "Mad Men" is the Hollywood Reporter review of the episode saying it "brought back the greatness" after apparent mediocrity in all the other episodes so far in S6.
To be honest, I don't think there's truly been any mediocrity this season but not everyone has the same gauge for a show like Mad Men, I guess.
Reviews like that do lead me to believe that people tend to enjoy when shows throw everything at them rather than having a subtle buildup over time. This most recent episode of MM was jam-packed in comparison to the rest, with a bunch of things happening.
Also, I looked up info on Vincent Kartheiser about the hairline and yeah, he does shave it to appear older for the show. On top of that he gained weight for the role.
To be honest, I don't think there's truly been any mediocrity this season but not everyone has the same gauge for a show like Mad Men, I guess.
Reviews like that do lead me to believe that people tend to enjoy when shows throw everything at them rather than having a subtle buildup over time. This most recent episode of MM was jam-packed in comparison to the rest, with a bunch of things happening.
Also, I looked up info on Vincent Kartheiser about the hairline and yeah, he does shave it to appear older for the show. On top of that he gained weight for the role.
I'm surprised at how many people loved the episode, I thought it was the weakest in quite some time. I know a lot of people are a bit criticial of Mad Men's pace, but I feel it usually manages to hit a really strong balance between plot and character development. There's enough of an overarching plot for things to constantly be in motion, but they move slowly enough for it to feel like characters are pushing it forward. This was just way too rushed for me. I could've done with this over 3 or 4 episodes; the going public/losing Jaguar bit needed at least its own episode on its own imo.
I thought S5 was awful...this entire season feels way more like Mad Men.
Davey Cakes
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I consider S4 and S5 to be sort the "transformation seasons" into current Mad Men.
Maybe I enjoyed Season 5 because it felt somewhat different. But, I don't know. The "LSD episode" is one of my favorites of the entire show, too.
I liked how there were some definite "dark" parts as well. Some parts of S5 were more depressing. The episode where Don can't find Megan, what happens to Lane, etc.
He was the head of the Dealers Association or something like that. It was mentioned in the previous season.
By the way, firing a client is one of the most satisfying things to watch ever.
Ignatz Mouse
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Ignatz Mouse
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It reminds me of a breakup I had once, where she said "let's see other people" and I said "screw that, we're over."
Hard to say who dumped whom.
I'd agree with you if this occurred at the end of the season, but something makes me feel like this deal of convenience is not going to end well.
Cornballer
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Content Round Up - Week 6 - For Immediate Release
Videos:
Reviews:
Other:
Videos:
- Promo for next week's episode (please spoiler tag any discussion, youtube vid)
- Inside the Episode (youtube vid)
- Janie Bryant on Costumes in Episode 6 (youtube vid)
- Inside the Episode (youtube vid)
- Janie Bryant on Costumes in Episode 6 (youtube vid)
Reviews:
- Sepinwall
- Onion A|V Club
- Tim Goodman @ THR
- Rolling Stone
- Maureen Ryan
- IGN
- EW
- Salon.com
- The Atlantic
- Slate.com
- Zap2It
- Onion A|V Club
- Tim Goodman @ THR
- Rolling Stone
- Maureen Ryan
- IGN
- EW
- Salon.com
- The Atlantic
- Slate.com
- Zap2It
Other:
From a random blog.
I think there's a third scenario. There is no new model, Chevy constructed this exercise to find a new agency.
BertramCooper
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I wonder how the specifics of the merger will work; others have suggested that it was Don acting unilaterally but he would have needed the agreement of the other partners to do something like this - plus it seems unlikely that if the deal hadn't been agreed they would have had Peggy write a press release for the new company.
I don't know the sizes of the 2 companies, but one would assume that it would be SCDP acquiring CGC since one of their partners wanted out; SCDP would presumably buy him out and trade shares to the other 2 leaving SCDP with 7 partners. However to do that they would need to dilute the value of the others shareholdings, meaning they would need the agreement of Pete and Joan.
I'm also going to presume the new firm will then abandon going public, which again makes it seem likely that Pete and Joan would have been against the deal. But perhaps the press release thing was just a simple oversight by Weiner and the next episode will have the scenes of the partners hashing out the deal.
I don't know the sizes of the 2 companies, but one would assume that it would be SCDP acquiring CGC since one of their partners wanted out; SCDP would presumably buy him out and trade shares to the other 2 leaving SCDP with 7 partners. However to do that they would need to dilute the value of the others shareholdings, meaning they would need the agreement of Pete and Joan.
I'm also going to presume the new firm will then abandon going public, which again makes it seem likely that Pete and Joan would have been against the deal. But perhaps the press release thing was just a simple oversight by Weiner and the next episode will have the scenes of the partners hashing out the deal.
Harry is going to be highly regarded by CGC, my friend. He'll end up ahead of Pete.
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Harry doesn't mess around.
He looked revitalized as he jumped out of his chair and ran out the door with his bag. Good for Roger!
BertramCooper
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I'm glad they'll be getting rid of the Sterling Cooper Draper Pryce name.
It was terribly clunky, even as an acronym.
It was terribly clunky, even as an acronym.
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