Microsoft: Next Xbox will work even when your Internet doesnt
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Hero_of_the_Day
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They already stopped doing this on PC and even went back and removed it from AC2, so I really doubt they try again after realizing how fucking dumb it was the first time.
I'm pretty sure I pee'd myself a little bit while watching that episode from laughing
I think the problem is that Thurrott's source and Edge's source may be the same person who was unaware of what 'always online' actually meant internally. If this source is working on the engineering behind the button that ejects the disc, they may have no idea what 'Always Online' means for the console as a whole.
Beer Monkey
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That shows how low the bar is.
He publishes articles and goes on podcasts saying 'requires always online connection', and then somebody tweets asking if you have to be online to play games, and then he says "no idea".
It is irresponsible, but this is 2013 and journalism in most facets of society is completely dead.
Well, it's pretty simple. Know what you are talking about when you report it.
playing single player games.. for.. ya know.. no more than an hour disconnected... hahahahahaa
This is only because literally every bit of information we have seen says this lol.
The very specific language of this email is odd. I mean why not just come out and say there is no always online Sony did this right away. Why all the obfuscation by Microsoft?
BRocknRolla
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A new generation presents new possibilities...
I'm sure they'll couch it in, "There are multiplayer aspects that require the connection at all times," even if they're minimal at best. I wouldn't count it out for blanket use. I'd hope for everyone's sake it isn't used, I'm just not convinced.
you are aware that nothing was officially announced either way? They did not add or remove anything
There is a reason more specific leaks haven't come from Microsoft yet, they're controlling information very tightly.
Also, you can accuse Microsoft of many things, but being ahead of damaging rumors they have never.
Neko Mimi Mode
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Evidence? Check the OP.
Seriously, equating an internal Microsoft email to a dubious rumor carrying multiple "things could have changed" provisos based on early 2012 spec leaks is stupid. Never mind the fact that many of the people who towed that line have changed their tune on exactly what "always online" could actually mean or imply.
Ars is legit and there's no reason to suggest this isn't legit either.
pretty much, people are getting way too invested in defending positions that may not even exist
oh come on, I WANT to be upset. Just let me be upset
Dr. Feel Good
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I was hoping it would be always online and that sales would prove that the mass consumer doesn't give a fuck one way or the other and end this debate altogether.
I don't know what to believe anymore. But this email seems strange to me. Shouldn't something like this have been known to the people who are directly working, marketing and involved with the hardware like.....a long fucking time ago? How does that not have an affect on...everything, from development to product perception?
Again, all very strange. I hope for the consumers sake this ends up being a reality so we can move on and worry about actual games.
Again, all very strange. I hope for the consumers sake this ends up being a reality so we can move on and worry about actual games.
Backfoggen
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Hard to get excited when it's how it should be.
Why need a press release to counteract a rumor made or interpreted incorrectly / intentionally by some insiders ?
Exactly. Them continuing with the status quo isn't worth praising.
nelsonroyale
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Only makes sense, anything else would be shooting themselves in the foot. Back into the realm of sanity.
Rogue_Ledr
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Word is literally all over the map o this deal.
This is encouraging news, but honestly we've had so many reports of the "always on" thing somehow I doubt this is true.
I mean. how would this be any different than the current Xbox 360 structure if it was true?
How can a console be "Always online" if it isn't really required to be "always online".
You're either always online or not.
If this is true than the console isn't anymore "Always Online" than the 360 is.
This is encouraging news, but honestly we've had so many reports of the "always on" thing somehow I doubt this is true.
I mean. how would this be any different than the current Xbox 360 structure if it was true?
How can a console be "Always online" if it isn't really required to be "always online".
You're either always online or not.
If this is true than the console isn't anymore "Always Online" than the 360 is.
No, but it's fun to rationalize disdain. I think Sony originally planned to charge $1,299 for the PS4 and require a Google Fiber account for the device to function. I'm not going to congratulate them for not proceeding with that fantasy.
BlastProcessing
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Looks like sanity wins this round.
slightconfuse
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some good news for sure. had no idea why they wouldny dot his.
China Dont Care
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BOOOOOOOOOO, THIS is great news. WHERE is the circle jerk now.
GANGSTERKILLER
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Excellent news.
Now bring on the games.
Should be first post.
Are you suggesting that Xbox fans are outnumbered? It's clearly all about perspective.
Wyndstryker
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The machine works, but who said the games will. For all we know always online can be mandatory for the games.
I think there is an element of truth to it. That is the ONLY reason they haven't made a statement denying it. I mean you act like they are holding everything close to the chest when we already know about illumiroom and we even know the price points, gimme a break about them not wanting to divulge info. For some reason the always online DRM details are being kept secret for a reason.
DragonSworne
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The email makes no sense
1) we are to believe there are people working on Durango that don't know if it is always online or not
2) the author of the email, the one who knows that durango is not always online, sends a NDA sensitive email about Durango to a group of people not on the durang project.
I'm sorry, but like all the pro xbox720 rumors concerning always online, this does not pass the sniff test.
I don't truely believe durango will be always online, but I honestly believe all these "leaks" and "rumors" saying Durango is not always online are all hoaxes from fanboys that are butthurt from the initial Edge rumor.
1) we are to believe there are people working on Durango that don't know if it is always online or not
2) the author of the email, the one who knows that durango is not always online, sends a NDA sensitive email about Durango to a group of people not on the durang project.
I'm sorry, but like all the pro xbox720 rumors concerning always online, this does not pass the sniff test.
I don't truely believe durango will be always online, but I honestly believe all these "leaks" and "rumors" saying Durango is not always online are all hoaxes from fanboys that are butthurt from the initial Edge rumor.
BRocknRolla
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Is this a rumor? Yes. Is it a highly credible rumor from a trusted site, likely more trusted than the sites the previous rumors have come from? Probably. Is it still a rumor? Yes. Do we have anything but rumors? No.
Can we stop arguing whether or not this a rumor? Probably not. I just hope May 21st clarifies all this so people can stop wasting time and talk about the actual information.
Edit: I mean nothing against the quoted users. Just the continued fighting about whether this is a rumor or not.
quickwhips
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This thread is so good. Always on and Always Online why do so many people confuse the two?
There are a bazillion threads on this
Always online - low power mode, 24/7 download/patches/whatever
Online required - Console will not work at all without internet connection
Your phone (assuming you have a dataplan) and PC are always online, both will still work if you take them offline
The info in the OP did.
I guess it's more of them staying resilient against anti-consumer yet successful practices, namely on he PC. I'm not sure if it was an imminent threat but there was a scare considering gamers at large proved they didn't give a fuck if something was always online; if they wanted the game, they'd get it.
Sony deserved a tiny bit of praise for not succumbing for that shit and MS do too if they don't either.
I'm curious. Why are you thanking Microsoft and for what bullshit is credit being established?
Same thing with the 'internal memos' during the whole Sim City mess.
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