Opposition to what?
Microsoft: Next Xbox will work even when your Internet doesnt
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Opposition to what?
1.21Gigawatts
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Bad News: Online Multiplayer NEEDS to be always online!
Baconsammy
Banned
An employee could have done it on their own. Or is it also your opinion that Orth's comments were a controlled leak too?
Faery Tales I assume.
Dion Blaster
Member
People still want to believe so badly.
Because MS is a large organization with groups of people with different and competing ideas on how the company should go. The legacy of Zune should've clued you into this fact.
A large company doesn't change their mind over night.
Orth was being an asshole. That's what was sweetbilly's problem and he paid for it.
It is true an employee could leak this on their own. Doesn't invalidate the overall theme of how these events are playing out. MS had one vision and are changing their minds on it.
This is what I think the origin of always online part.
But it was incorrectly or intentionally interpreted as other ways.
GANGSTERKILLER
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Oops... ha ha!
hydrophilic attack
Member
Always online?
Oh come on man you think all the "leaks" are legitimate leaks and not controlled?
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
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statham
Member
being a dope.
Always online is definitely the greater of the two evils; I don't understand how it could not be considering the much grander implications beyond you and your buddy not being able borrow your game.
Neko Mimi Mode
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While this is possible, I'd be surprised if Microsoft actually intended this to get out when it could very easily be interpreted as them having changed track.
shinobi602
Member
Probably for ruining Microsoft's image in that certain aspect and bringing a lot of negative press.
Public image. You can't have someone higher up saying things like that on Twitter because it makes your company look terrible.
Miles Quaritch
Member
I don't follow. Why would you need a press release for this when the initial claim was only a rumour. Were you as adamant in demanding a press release for the initial rumours or are you simply unhappy with this development?
Moving on, I'd quite like to hear BruceLeeRoy's comments. His sources claimed that always online was a done deal (paraphrasing), was this a late change or did his sources perhaps misunderstand the info they had?
Baconsammy
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Possibly for insulting huge swatches of the world. The "why would I live there" comment was actually offensive. The always-online comments weren't remotely offensive.
MoGamesXNA
Unconfirmed Member
My gut feeling on this is that all games will still need to be registered and bound to an single account to prevent second hand sales.
An internet connection will only be required for this period of time only.
Edit: This will all be at the 'publishers discretion' of course. MS won't want the fingers of the core gamer being waved at them this early on.
An internet connection will only be required for this period of time only.
Edit: This will all be at the 'publishers discretion' of course. MS won't want the fingers of the core gamer being waved at them this early on.
That guy was fired for being an asshat, most likely.
MS and it's employees are told to not talk about rumors whether they are true or false. So to talk publicly about rumors in such a aggressive way was probably enough to get him the boot.
People want Microsoft to fail so badly
Lol. Perfect use of this. Microsoft destroy the rumor and STILL made it look like they weren't commenting. The guy who passed out is the want who dreamed the Always online was true.
Now IF this is accurate They killed the Always online and the Blu-ray delay all with the same rock. Kotaku will be pissed and redouble their efforts to undermine the MS launch.
Not it looks like instead of the Nextbox being a cable box it's simply a conduit through which you could watch your cable through an HDMI Input. Interesting to see if it's a true DVR as well.
I can see it now. You bring up the guide through your voice and say 'ESPN' and it turns to that channel on it's own.
If MS turns this thing into a voiced Cable Guide, Tivo, and Windows 8 on top of everything the 360 can do this gen? Yeah this is a couch potatoes dream.
It's hilarious that Adam Orth will suddenly get sympathy from the same people holding the pitchforks. Even better the guy resigned. MS didn't fire him. It's been noted when the rumors of Xbox mini/ Always online being false were coming in that he fell on this sword for nothing.
Plinko
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They're equal evils. I'd also argue that eliminating used games may actually be more damaging to Microsoft than always online.
Risk Breaker
Member
You (and many others) may think (or hope
) it's legit, but the thread title treats this as if it was official info and not the unconfirmed rumour it is, just like the "always online" ones :/Good news for gamers and the industry, though that bit about blocking used games is still very serious.
Then again, there is something a little bit off about the article; the way it is written to not just developers but people working on the Xbox itself, the blatant PRishness of it (are all MS internal emails like this) and the way it only gives out information that you'd want the public to know and not the things you'd want your employees to know.
Either Ars have been duped or this email is not as 'internal' as the article likes to suggesr.
Then again, there is something a little bit off about the article; the way it is written to not just developers but people working on the Xbox itself, the blatant PRishness of it (are all MS internal emails like this) and the way it only gives out information that you'd want the public to know and not the things you'd want your employees to know.
Either Ars have been duped or this email is not as 'internal' as the article likes to suggesr.
Oh! You meant opposition to rumors and speculation.
I thought you meant opposition to something Microsoft was doing.
:lol
Impeccable
Member
It's happening.
Comparing the "ultimate evil" of always online drm to various other rumored details of a tech device is silly imo. There is no parralel.
la flama blanca
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IdreamofHIME
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I'm glad they're acknowledging that today's internet is not at the level these companies act like it is.
Hard to say. At one point they were right about the PS4's ram but were wrong after Sony decided to increase it. Maybe MS did plan to have always-online at one point.
I'm curious about the used/rental situation now.
Haint
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This seems like a non-story. "Always online" in the literal sense was incredibly unlikely at best and brand suicide at worst. The question has always been whether a connection will be required for activation/installation, and what this will mean for used/rental markets. For the millions of people without BB or the 10's of thousands of people whose internet will just happen to be down for the launch of the console, Halo 5, or whatever--they won't give a shit about the distinction between "always online" and "always online to activate", the end result is the same.
This thread basically confirms that all the "legitimate concerns" regarding the Durango, especially in the 6 months thread, are mostly from Sony fanboys with an agenda.
It's really fucking hilarious the amount of mental gymnastics people in this thread are going through to discredit this leak.
It's really fucking hilarious the amount of mental gymnastics people in this thread are going through to discredit this leak.
Except if a company were to strictly follow what you want as a "hardcore gamer" than it would almost certainly fail.
There cannot be a happy medium?
We all threw a fit over used games but now we ignoring it because theres some good news.
I dont borrow games or by used very often but it doesnt mean Im going to support giving up more of the ownership of my games.
Psycho_Mantis
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Is this site reliable?
Impeccable
Member
It's really happening.
Ars? yes.
MikeE21286
Member
Breathe for a second dude.
BlastProcessing
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We don't know that he was fired, only that he is no longer with the company. Dude could have just fell on his sword.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
"Publicly."
la flama blanca
Banned
Not true at all. I've seen plenty of casual to hardcore xbox fans state their concern over the "always online" rumor. And if there are examples of so called fanboyism, why address them? It makes you look just as stupid as they are.
By wanting Microsoft to cater to the hardcore audience, there's an acknowledgement that of course Microsoft isn't going to listen to a bunch of nerds exclusively, but at least we will have a voice enough to make some kind of difference. By saying we want them to fail, it's more of a statement without being a real legitimate threat.
Jake Tower
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Microsoft has earned the cynicism they are faced with. No fanboyism or mental gymnastics required.
we.are.the.armada
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Good on them, good for us, good for everybody.