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Big milestone yesterday.

For some background info, my OCD mainly consists of checking. An example: I'll be walking down the street with an essay in my backpack. I get the urge to check to make sure it's there so I stop, open the bag, check, close the bag, immediately open the bag again to check to make sure it's still there, close the bag and then continue my walk. Then like 10 steps later I think "What it it fell out while I was checking", and repeat the whole process.

Well, ever since taking my medication the urges to check have become less frequent and also less strong. Some days I can completely fight off all the urges.

However, yesterday was awesome. It was the first day in years and years that I didn't have any urges at all. And the opportunity was there, it's always there. But I didn't have to fight any urges, they never came.

I know this doesn't mean I'm cured but I feel it's a major step in the right direction. Had some urges today already but yesterday really put me in a good mood. Hopefully this is a sign of a positive future.

The only downside is all the sleep I've been getting due to the meds has been messing with me. I feel tired but my body is saying "Nope, you've slept too much" and now I can't get to sleep even though I really really want to.
 
SSRIs are given out like candy, yeah. Some docs are super anti-med, and they'll hem and ha, but if your symptoms fit, you express an interest in a med, you'll probably get one. Lexapro is super popular for depression and anxiety, together - several people in here take it. I might try it next.

Good luck! Let us know how it goes.

Thanks! I'll see how it goes - Lexapro is indeed the particular one I had in mind, simply from hearing so much about it. I'll be sure to report back.

Big milestone yesterday.

For some background info, my OCD mainly consists of checking. An example: I'll be walking down the street with an essay in my backpack. I get the urge to check to make sure it's there so I stop, open the bag, check, close the bag, immediately open the bag again to check to make sure it's still there, close the bag and then continue my walk. Then like 10 steps later I think "What it it fell out while I was checking", and repeat the whole process.

Well, ever since taking my medication the urges to check have become less frequent and also less strong. Some days I can completely fight off all the urges.

However, yesterday was awesome. It was the first day in years and years that I didn't have any urges at all. And the opportunity was there, it's always there. But I didn't have to fight any urges, they never came.

I know this doesn't mean I'm cured but I feel it's a major step in the right direction. Had some urges today already but yesterday really put me in a good mood. Hopefully this is a sign of a positive future.

The only downside is all the sleep I've been getting due to the meds has been messing with me. I feel tired but my body is saying "Nope, you've slept too much" and now I can't get to sleep even though I really really want to.

In spite of your sleep issues, that's awesome that your other stuff is getting sorted out.
 
In light of the conversation, this feels attention-whorey but maybe it can be of help to other people who don't feel comfortable asking.

So self harm. Anyone else have issues with this? Particularly, anyone else done a good job of overcoming it? Like, coping mechanisms so that you don't get caught up in the moment. The logic of why not to do it makes sense after the fact, but not during so I don't know. A friend suggested calling people, but I really can never make the leap of actively seeking out help when I'm feeling down. If someone is already talking to me fine, but I can't help feeling like I'm imposing when calling someone out of the blue for something like that.

I don't but my partner does it. It has taken some time and gaining her trust to get her not to do it. Now when she feels like doing it she just gives me a call or a message and we just have a good talk. Slowly she has just learned to deal with it on her own and doesn't need to call me to talk about it.

I think you need someone you can really trust if you're going to use that particular avenue to prevent self harm.
 
I guess you're getting really annoyed at weird ghosting effects or something.
I think I know that feeling. I get a really anxious feeling when I start noticing my eye-floaters more or when my eyes are tired and my astigmatism makes me notice the double-vision more (same effect as you see on your monitor!). I hate vision occlusions in general and small spots of dust or streaks on my glasses drive me nuts if I start noticing so I have to clean them often~

But yeah, I think your noticing and getting an anxiety spike and then focusing on it only ramps up those feelings you have. And then maybe you start making associations and putting your brain into an anxiety loop. Like maybe you realize you are feeling this anxiety, and keep wanting to "solve it" despite it not being one of those things you can just fix. But because your brain is persistent, it keeps going over the problem trying to solve it anyway, putting you in a loop. I find the best way to deal with the issue is just to keep doing whatever you're doing (like playing the game and doing other activities to focus your attention away from it) until those details become background noise again.

Do you have a lot of issues with anxiety and getting stressed over small and what many people would think are insignificant things in general? People generally don't see what they aren't looking for and the brain fills in the rest. Give your eyes a break and find another task to do (like organizing or cooking some food that has prep work). If you want to keep gaming, try to put your focus on something else on the screen in the meanwhile, like a life bar or damage numbers or the overall flow of the game and your actions to nudge your brain away from the ghosting and framerate and maybe your brain will settle down about it.

Your text actually sums up my problem really well. I get a lot of anxiety/stress because my brain tends to notice things that most people probably never notice in their entire life.

You're also right that I tend to "forget" about these things if I can really make myself just keep playing the game. After a while, I start to ocus on the gameplay and the vision problem just becomes background noise like you say.

Problem is, whenever I'm not on the pc. I keep thinking about it and making it even worse. Then, when I actually want to play a game... my mind is already filled with anxiety etc and it'll only take one small error to activate full anxiety mode.

I should probably visit a doctor one of these days. I've been on the fence about anti depressants for a while now, but maybe they might help with my problem. I've never been on them though, but maybe it's needed at this point? I feel like I'm getting worse each day.
 
im pretty sure severe eye floaters are ruinning my life

I sleep during the day because I cant look anywhere in daylight without seeing something like 8 squiggly long lines in each eye. Every time a solid color background shows up on my PC monitor I just feel like fucking crying

I honestly think ive become a depressed person over the last few months solely because of this (they stared appearing in february). I wanna gauge my eyes out. There's no solution, been to the eye doctor for weeks. this is now my life and I just cant deal with it, man. Gonna start therapy soon but I just want a medical solution and no one can give me one. I'd have to travel for surgery, spend a ton of money and risk losing my eyesight. It makes me not wanna do anything, I feel like I cant enjoy anything of the things I like. I cant fucking read, watch movies or play games without getting automatically distracted, and being outside is the worst of all

im losing it
 
Found myself standing on the balcony earlier. Not to enjoy the weather. It feels like there's no way out of this. I don't know what to do.
 
Found myself standing on the balcony earlier. Not to enjoy the weather. It feels like there's no way out of this. I don't know what to do.

Keep living, there is always potential for things to get better. That's just cold logic, I have very pervasive suicidal ideation, I pretty much just do my best to disregard it because it's irrational fucked up thinking. Nothing will change if I'm dead. Not ready for oblivion yet, but it does suck feeling dead inside.
 
I havent had fantasies about suicide, but I have had fantasies about wishing getting killed. I woudnt commit suicide because there are people who care about me, but if I was killed by some external factor it would clear me from all responsibility.
 
Is the gaining weight part really bad? Because of your avatars (and you changed it toooo! Now I want to change mine! HRM..), I keep thinking you are wispy and delicate and maybe you could use some muscle mass! xD
It's okay to indulge once in a while. And frozen yogurt isn't as bad as icecream, so uhm.. it's kind of in moderation, so you made a wiser choice than otherwise (even if you wanna say "well, all that HAD was yogurt, so it really wasn't my doing at all..", you can give yourself the freebie victory and it's okay).

I think what you wrote is good. Nothing might be 100% effective, but every little bit helps because it's like another strategy to use, and over time, the practice of all of them becomes a habit that can become a part of you.

I know you are having tough times too and I hope you're trying to take care of yourself and letting other take care of you too while dealing with all of it. And also remind yourself to take lots of breaks from even thinking about all of it because it is tiring.

Lol, well me being delicate is true...I dunno about wispy. Been fluctuating between 105-115 these days at 5'0. I still prefer not to gain weight since 105 was my goal weight for awhile. Now that I kind of went back to my weight since last year...It feels a bit deflating.
Don't change your avatar! I'm too accustomed to you being a solar cat!
Yeah but I think with my addiction with bad food again (I think i'm going to buy more frozen yogurt later today =_=) it'll cause me to gain a ton of weight. Yes I'm aware to excercise, please don't suggest that. It's just these days I really have no motivation for it...At most I take strolls around the garden and see if there's anything needed to be harvested. Went out in the sunlight for the first time in awhile and actually stayed in it. Felt weird because as my skin is naturally brown (it went to the point of being pale and almost white) I can somewhat feel the color come back...I dunno what the point of this ramble was...

You're welcome I suppose. Don't think that helped anyone though...

Been trying to take care of myself...There was too much stuff happening these past few weeks...Hopefully now I can finally rest after my final exam is done...I have to keep reminding myself to reach out to friends again. Been trying to isolate myself again and that's obviously not smart. Thankfully people checked on me yesterday.

hey everyone, i'm a student nurse and I'm doing a clinical rotation in a psychiatric hospital and I have a quick question.. It seems to me that most of the patients I've met has had a severely traumatic event in their childhood at some point. Is this the case for many of you here too?

It's not exactly for every case. Some people experience depression regardless of something happened to them or not. I know my dad has depression and while he never experienced a traumatic event in his life, he still has it. It just varies from person to person.

Found myself standing on the balcony earlier. Not to enjoy the weather. It feels like there's no way out of this. I don't know what to do.

Remember you were supposed to talk to someone everyday. We made a deal about this, remember?...

I havent had fantasies about suicide, but I have had fantasies about wishing getting killed. I woudnt commit suicide because there are people who care about me, but if I was killed by some external factor it would clear me from all responsibility.

No I have had that as well. Specifically sacrificing myself for the sake of loved ones, like take a bullet to the chest.
That way I feel my life had a purpose and my loved ones will continue to live on while I finally rested.
It's a bit of a win-win scenario in one perspective but then we realize we leave the people behind that we love dearly in a forever spiral of turmoil and chaos.
 
*actual double take*

Wow I should try this game, but I'm at work, and am limited to posting single sentence type answers. Thanks for the heads up will give it a look. Hope everyone is having as awesome of a day as possible.

I couldn't finish it. WAY too close to home for me.

I should learn to control my anger. I feel awful when I uintentionally act like an ass to someone.
 
That's completely fair enough right. Haven't had a chance to check it out yet.

Called in sick today. Not feeling that great about it but hey there you go - thanks for listening hope people are having a good or at least tolerable day out there.

You seriously need to do it. For people with social anxiety especially, I think this would be a great tool for problem solving... and it does hit way too close to home but that's the point.
 
Depression can cause low sex drive, right? Is this always the case though?

Figured i have low sex drive, not that it really bothers me (asking more out of curiosity).
One-night stands are out of question, i don't trust people easily/fast, and frankly, idea of sex with someone i don't trust doesn't appeal to me at all. (This includes prostitutes)
And i really don't like children (nor want them), and i don't particularly want a relationship (doubly so while i'm depressed, gotta take care of myself first). Of course, i reckon i need to meet more people first (there might be someone i really like), but i know i've never really cared for the idea of living with someone for rest of my life (yeah yeah, not all relationships last for life).
This would leave "friends with benefits" arrangements but i feel those may become complicated fast. Would prefer nothing compromising friendships.

Frankly, i wouldn't mind being able to keep low sex drive even if/when i get rid of depression (if caused by depression). If only for being different from others (i already think i think differently from others, along with quite rare political views and other things so what's one more "oddity" to add to the mix?).

EDIT anyone thinking me odd, and having a problem with that, fuck off. I am what i am, you don't like it, go to hell. Requiring "normality" is bullshit.
Feel free to think me odd otherwise. Just don't say i should be "normal". Or think that for that matter.
 
I've been pretty depressed on and off for almost ten years but have always avoided medication cause I'm just afraid of what it will do to me. The last couple years I've realized I am always lonely even when I'm with my fiancee and I cannot get excited about anything at all, even stuff I used to love doing. I'll sit and do nothing, can't express my emotions, don't like spending time with people lately, drink way too much even though it doesn't work anymore, and go to bed early every night cause there's no reason to stay awake. I take very little enjoyment from virtually everything.

So I guess my main question is now that in the last few months it's gotten bad enough for my fiancee to actually get really worried about how disassociated I've become from everything she wants me to see a doctor and get some medication since she thinks it has to be something out of my control. I feel kinda goofy asking this and maybe it's been answered but do people generally have success with the medication when it is just basic depression? I guess I recognize my "problems" but have lived with them for so long it's hard to imagine "being happy" and I'm not really sure what the medication will do. Can anyone offer a viewpoint in support or opposition? Would it be better to try to be happier in some different ways without the pills?
 
I've been pretty depressed on and off for almost ten years but have always avoided medication cause I'm just afraid of what it will do to me. The last couple years I've realized I am always lonely even when I'm with my fiancee and I cannot get excited about anything at all, even stuff I used to love doing. I'll sit and do nothing, can't express my emotions, don't like spending time with people lately, drink way too much even though it doesn't work anymore, and go to bed early every night cause there's no reason to stay awake. I take very little enjoyment from virtually everything.

So I guess my main question is now that in the last few months it's gotten bad enough for my fiancee to actually get really worried about how disassociated I've become from everything she wants me to see a doctor and get some medication since she thinks it has to be something out of my control. I feel kinda goofy asking this and maybe it's been answered but do people generally have success with the medication when it is just basic depression? I guess I recognize my "problems" but have lived with them for so long it's hard to imagine "being happy" and I'm not really sure what the medication will do. Can anyone offer a viewpoint in support or opposition? Would it be better to try to be happier in some different ways without the pills?

Speak to a doctor about your depression. He'll prescribe whichever antidepressant he feels suits you best. And yes, antidepressants generally work for most people. A lot of people give up on them due to some bad side effects like loss of appetite and stuff, but that's not guaranteed.
 
I've been pretty depressed on and off for almost ten years but have always avoided medication cause I'm just afraid of what it will do to me. The last couple years I've realized I am always lonely even when I'm with my fiancee and I cannot get excited about anything at all, even stuff I used to love doing. I'll sit and do nothing, can't express my emotions, don't like spending time with people lately, drink way too much even though it doesn't work anymore, and go to bed early every night cause there's no reason to stay awake. I take very little enjoyment from virtually everything.

So I guess my main question is now that in the last few months it's gotten bad enough for my fiancee to actually get really worried about how disassociated I've become from everything she wants me to see a doctor and get some medication since she thinks it has to be something out of my control. I feel kinda goofy asking this and maybe it's been answered but do people generally have success with the medication when it is just basic depression? I guess I recognize my "problems" but have lived with them for so long it's hard to imagine "being happy" and I'm not really sure what the medication will do. Can anyone offer a viewpoint in support or opposition? Would it be better to try to be happier in some different ways without the pills?

What BigEvilTurtle said. Really, the job of the meds is to make it possible for you to feel normal. The drugs won't magically make you happy. It would be nice if they did. Ideally, you'd go on a med, and you'd start enjoying the things you used to. It should help get you to a place where you can think through your issues a little better.

As I said in the OP, I'm pretty pro-med if your depression is bad enough. Some people have a strong opposition to their use, but they've made it possible for me to function at this level. I'm not currently in great shape, and a big part of that is that I really need to start a new med. I'm pretty sure I'm the kind of person who will always need meds to function. That's not the the usual experience, but I've made my peace with it.

Good luck to you!
 
I've been pretty depressed on and off for almost ten years but have always avoided medication cause I'm just afraid of what it will do to me. The last couple years I've realized I am always lonely even when I'm with my fiancee and I cannot get excited about anything at all, even stuff I used to love doing. I'll sit and do nothing, can't express my emotions, don't like spending time with people lately, drink way too much even though it doesn't work anymore, and go to bed early every night cause there's no reason to stay awake. I take very little enjoyment from virtually everything.

So I guess my main question is now that in the last few months it's gotten bad enough for my fiancee to actually get really worried about how disassociated I've become from everything she wants me to see a doctor and get some medication since she thinks it has to be something out of my control. I feel kinda goofy asking this and maybe it's been answered but do people generally have success with the medication when it is just basic depression? I guess I recognize my "problems" but have lived with them for so long it's hard to imagine "being happy" and I'm not really sure what the medication will do. Can anyone offer a viewpoint in support or opposition? Would it be better to try to be happier in some different ways without the pills?
I've been of the opinion that a lot of my depression stems from my environment and circumstance and for the longest time didn't want to start taking medication. I'm on anti-depressants now and while they haven't magically cured me, I do see a significant change in how I react to things in general.

Find a doctor thar you trust and talk to them about it. Mention all the stuff you mentioned here, especially your fears of how it might negatively affect you.

Personally, I just got to the point where I asked myself: "Is anything else working? I don't really have anything left to lose."
 
hey everyone, i'm a student nurse and I'm doing a clinical rotation in a psychiatric hospital and I have a quick question.. It seems to me that most of the patients I've met has had a severely traumatic event in their childhood at some point. Is this the case for many of you here too?
Not that I know of. I don't recall ever going through something that deeply scarred me or anything.

Knowing that I haven't had it that bad compared to some other people here makes me feel like I don't have any right to feel bad about myself and my life. And I don't think it's genetic either. I'm probably just a spoiled and ungrateful fool, and I'm shitting on everything my family and friends did for me.

So no, no reason to feel like this at all, and I completely deserve to not be liked by other people.
 
Not that I know of. I don't recall ever going through something that deeply scarred me or anything.

Knowing that I haven't had it that bad compared to some other people here makes me feel like I don't have any right to feel bad about myself and my life. And I don't think it's genetic either. I'm probably just a spoiled and ungrateful fool, and I'm shitting on everything my family and friends did for me.

So no, no reason to feel like this at all, and I completely deserve to not be liked by other people.
No, this isn't true. There are so many factors involved when it comes to something like depression and how we feel. For some of us it might stem from earlier events, but that does not make what you're going through any less legitimate. There will ALWAYS be someone who has it "worse" than you do by that logic and then no one has the "right" to feel bad. But it doesn't actually work that way; there's no cutoff point in which people are allowed to start feeling bad.
 
No, this isn't true. There are so many factors involved when it comes to something like depression and how we feel. For some of us it might stem from earlier events, but that does not make what you're going through any less legitimate. There will ALWAYS be someone who has it "worse" than you do by that logic and then no one has the "right" to feel bad. But it doesn't actually work that way; there's no cutoff point in which people are allowed to start feeling bad.

Can I jump in here? No? OK, thanks.

I've talked to RionaaM quite a bit and I have to say - faker. Poser. Depression groupie. It makes me sick. WHINER. Wiener, even.

(<3 you, Rio!)
 
No, this isn't true. There are so many factors involved when it comes to something like depression and how we feel. For some of us it might stem from earlier events, but that does not make what you're going through any less legitimate. There will ALWAYS be someone who has it "worse" than you do by that logic and then no one has the "right" to feel bad. But it doesn't actually work that way; there's no cutoff point in which people are allowed to start feeling bad.
But then why do I feel this way? There's no event I can recall that turned me into the person I am now. Why do I feel like this? There's no reason at all, and that does makes it less legitimate.

Can I jump in here? No? OK, thanks.

I've talked to RionaaM quite a bit and I have to say - faker. Poser. Depression groupie. It makes me sick. WHINER. Wiener, even.

(<3 you, Rio!)
Apologize to me, or I'll put a turd in your bathtub! While you're taking a shower, even.
 
But then why do I feel this way? There's no event I can recall that turned me into the person I am now. Why do I feel like this? There's no reason at all, and that does makes it less legitimate.
Is an illness that originates in the body less legitimate than someone getting sick from something external or having a physical injury from an accident? No. This isn't any different.
 
But then why do I feel this way? There's no event I can recall that turned me into the person I am now. Why do I feel like this? There's no reason at all, and that does makes it less legitimate.

Depression doesn't need a reason to exist. Sometimes, it just is and that doesn't make the way you feel any less valid.
 
Thanks for that advice.

I've already written down a few minor things that I'll probably forget on a piece of note-paper. I'll keep it with me in my wallet just in case.
No problem. Glad to be somewhat helpful! Hope everything goes well with the appointment!

Yeah, you hit the nail on the head for why I do it. I'll try to create a loop of just drinking cans of coke, although I guess people would argue that's self harm too. :P

The creative stuff hardly ever works for me in the moment. It does afterwards though, now that you mention it. I fell asleep thinking about an extended metaphor I could write for that anthology.

Thanks for the advice, Prax. :)
Yesss, drinking Coke is better than the harm loop! And then you can step it up with something better, like water after a while. XD One thing at a time!

Yeah, creative stuff takes like.. mental ram. Self harm is like a virus alert, and you need to quarantine that/stop the executable (with a different loop/activity), and then after that alert mode is cleared, you can defrag with art. This is a very scientific metaphor and is completely apt!

o___o Oooh.. I wanna see all this anthology writing now..

Big milestone yesterday.

For some background info, my OCD mainly consists of checking. An example: I'll be walking down the street with an essay in my backpack. I get the urge to check to make sure it's there so I stop, open the bag, check, close the bag, immediately open the bag again to check to make sure it's still there, close the bag and then continue my walk. Then like 10 steps later I think "What it it fell out while I was checking", and repeat the whole process.

Well, ever since taking my medication the urges to check have become less frequent and also less strong. Some days I can completely fight off all the urges.

However, yesterday was awesome. It was the first day in years and years that I didn't have any urges at all. And the opportunity was there, it's always there. But I didn't have to fight any urges, they never came.

I know this doesn't mean I'm cured but I feel it's a major step in the right direction. Had some urges today already but yesterday really put me in a good mood. Hopefully this is a sign of a positive future.

The only downside is all the sleep I've been getting due to the meds has been messing with me. I feel tired but my body is saying "Nope, you've slept too much" and now I can't get to sleep even though I really really want to.
That sounds good! Glad the meds are helping you with the urges. Are you planning to talk to yoru doctor again so that maybe you can adjust the dose or have some kind of sleep aids that won't interfere with your other medication? I love sleep and I don't get enough, but usually I zonk out whenever I actually intend to. Not being able to and wanting to could create other issues.

Your text actually sums up my problem really well. I get a lot of anxiety/stress because my brain tends to notice things that most people probably never notice in their entire life.

You're also right that I tend to "forget" about these things if I can really make myself just keep playing the game. After a while, I start to ocus on the gameplay and the vision problem just becomes background noise like you say.

Problem is, whenever I'm not on the pc. I keep thinking about it and making it even worse. Then, when I actually want to play a game... my mind is already filled with anxiety etc and it'll only take one small error to activate full anxiety mode.

I should probably visit a doctor one of these days. I've been on the fence about anti depressants for a while now, but maybe they might help with my problem. I've never been on them though, but maybe it's needed at this point? I feel like I'm getting worse each day.
I think medication can definitely help you bring the anxiety down a level if you're finding it too hard to even focus away from them. I know some drugs are prescribed for both anxiety and depression, so talking to your doctor about what issue you feel is most affecting you (you said depression, but you listed a lot of anxiety issues that could be treated and maybe that would make the depression aspect less severe).

In the meantime, if you can overcome your anxiety to just go play your game anyway, that can be part of "teaching" your brain to tolerate it more. I'm not sure what your action is when you feel anxious. If it is to just avoid playing to feel relief/avoid the graphic detail that might bug you, that might just be teaching your brain to always use that as a solution. And that reinforces the whole anxiety => give up/retreat loop, and can make you feel like everything is getting worse out of control. You want to try to teach yourself the opposite now.

You don't need to rush headfirst into the game the moment you feel your anxiety spiking in order to battle it. If the thoughts keep coming into your head, treat it like a third-party thought. Like to yourself say "okay, I recognize that there's this anxiousness, and it's probably because of ___... HOWEVER, I want to do this (play my game), so I am going to." Kind of giving yourself some mental validation of what you feel, but also prioritize things because you got stuff to do! Try to relax yourself first when you feel anxious. Make sure you feel comfortable in your seat, and then think about what you want to accomplish in the game (some achievement or next level or exploring an area) or what will be fun to do, maybe read a faq/walkthrough, and then go do it and focus on that goal instead of the other stuff. I hope that makes sense and works for you!

im pretty sure severe eye floaters are ruinning my life

I sleep during the day because I cant look anywhere in daylight without seeing something like 8 squiggly long lines in each eye. Every time a solid color background shows up on my PC monitor I just feel like fucking crying

I honestly think ive become a depressed person over the last few months solely because of this (they stared appearing in february). I wanna gauge my eyes out. There's no solution, been to the eye doctor for weeks. this is now my life and I just cant deal with it, man. Gonna start therapy soon but I just want a medical solution and no one can give me one. I'd have to travel for surgery, spend a ton of money and risk losing my eyesight. It makes me not wanna do anything, I feel like I cant enjoy anything of the things I like. I cant fucking read, watch movies or play games without getting automatically distracted, and being outside is the worst of all

im losing it
I don't know how severe your floaters are, but I have had moments where they really bugged me and I'd think there is something on my paper where there wasn't, or I can't tell which line I've drawn because of the floaters + double vision.

Since this is a newish thing you're seeing, you're going to notice it a lot more, but it does eventually get a lot easier to ignore over time (for me anyway.. but I've noticed and lived with it for more than a decade). They kind of become background noise that you brain processes to exclude over time. Try to keep yourself relaxed and take it one day at a time or even play with the floaters a little (moving your eyes around to look at them) until your brain gets bored with them and focuses on something else.

I agree that they are stupid and annoying, but you and I got things we wanna do and see anyway, so circumvent and work around it (maybe have to read a page at a certain angle instead for a while) until your brain learns to ignore it. Good luck with the therapy.

Found myself standing on the balcony earlier. Not to enjoy the weather. It feels like there's no way out of this. I don't know what to do.
When you feel this way, remember to take a few deep breaths and sit down or at least have yourself feel physically stable (good stance and posture, maybe hold onto a wall).

When you're feeling like your emotions are all out of control or you don't know what to do, try to remind yourself that this means it's not time to make any big actions or make any big decisions. So call someone to just talk or focus on small tedious tasks you could be doing. I always suggest to go get a drink of water or figure out if you're hungry or maybe you want to go read a page from a book. Anything to bring you back down to a level where you can start thinking again. If you can make a list of tasks that you would find productive to do (maybe some chores, maybe a list of things to check out or look up eventually) but doesn't require too much mental exertion, have that around so you can feel like you have a structure or plan you can follow at all times.

I havent had fantasies about suicide, but I have had fantasies about wishing getting killed. I woudnt commit suicide because there are people who care about me, but if I was killed by some external factor it would clear me from all responsibility.
I am familiar with that line of fantasizing. But that's kind of on the same extreme spectrum of wishing I can just win the lottery so everything can be solved easily. I think it's okay to muse about those things sometimes, but keeping yourself grounded in the present and reinforcing the idea that you're still here, and there's stuff you want to do or have to do in the meanwhile is important in keeping you on a healthy path mentally.

Kind of a reminder dialogue of "Yeah, I guess it would be nice if it even worked, but eating this icecream right now is nice too, hoping to watch that new show/doc/movie is also nice, having fun with my family/friends is nice."
Acknowledging your fantasy or wayward thought exists, but reinforcing the healthier thoughts that give you an actual direction seems like the wisest way to go about it. That way, you don't have to shame yourself about everything and and don't feel mental tension around denial.

Lol, well me being delicate is true...I dunno about wispy. Been fluctuating between 105-115 these days at 5'0. I still prefer not to gain weight since 105 was my goal weight for awhile. Now that I kind of went back to my weight since last year...It feels a bit deflating.
Don't change your avatar! I'm too accustomed to you being a solar cat!
Yeah but I think with my addiction with bad food again (I think i'm going to buy more frozen yogurt later today =_=) it'll cause me to gain a ton of weight. Yes I'm aware to excercise, please don't suggest that. It's just these days I really have no motivation for it...At most I take strolls around the garden and see if there's anything needed to be harvested. Went out in the sunlight for the first time in awhile and actually stayed in it. Felt weird because as my skin is naturally brown (it went to the point of being pale and almost white) I can somewhat feel the color come back...I dunno what the point of this ramble was...

You're welcome I suppose. Don't think that helped anyone though...

Been trying to take care of myself...There was too much stuff happening these past few weeks...Hopefully now I can finally rest after my final exam is done...I have to keep reminding myself to reach out to friends again. Been trying to isolate myself again and that's obviously not smart. Thankfully people checked on me yesterday..
That seems like a healthy weight though! (I am the type to think that anything under 140lb is passable lol --my new avatar would probably still be Solar Cat but in a different style~)
And yeah, I don't think I would have suggested exercise.. if only at this moment, I know that feel. I should be exercising but have little motivation so I don't wanna be hypocritical. My friend once told me.. it's easier to just control portions than to put in the effort of exercising. XD

All the stress is probably making you crave the food more, but maybe with the exam over and things settling a little (I hope!), you can focus on making healthy food for fun or miniature food for fun, and then the bonus side would be tricking yourself into having small portions. But you are also strolling and harvesting and getting warmed by the sun. I think the point was that it almost became a metaphor for you feeling rejuvenated again, or at least recharging--even the spreading your roots/branches and reaching out some more. I think that sounds pretty good!

Depression can cause low sex drive, right? Is this always the case though?

Figured i have low sex drive, not that it really bothers me (asking more out of curiosity).
One-night stands are out of question, i don't trust people easily/fast, and frankly, idea of sex with someone i don't trust doesn't appeal to me at all. (This includes prostitutes)
And i really don't like children (nor want them), and i don't particularly want a relationship (doubly so while i'm depressed, gotta take care of myself first). Of course, i reckon i need to meet more people first (there might be someone i really like), but i know i've never really cared for the idea of living with someone for rest of my life (yeah yeah, not all relationships last for life).
This would leave "friends with benefits" arrangements but i feel those may become complicated fast. Would prefer nothing compromising friendships.

Frankly, i wouldn't mind being able to keep low sex drive even if/when i get rid of depression (if caused by depression). If only for being different from others (i already think i think differently from others, along with quite rare political views and other things so what's one more "oddity" to add to the mix?).

EDIT anyone thinking me odd, and having a problem with that, fuck off. I am what i am, you don't like it, go to hell. Requiring "normality" is bullshit.
Feel free to think me odd otherwise. Just don't say i should be "normal". Or think that for that matter.
I am sure depression can indeed cause a low sex drive (and it kind of dampens a lot of enjoyment from any pleasurable activity and takes motivation away from doing most things).

From what you say, it almost sounds like there are aspects about the depression that you are afraid you will miss once you get treated for it. I think a lot of people do appreciate the level of introspection and sensitivity and possibly even creativity they have when they have depression. And maybe you appreciate the low sex drive you have (as having a higher one can complicate your life more). It makes sense to me; but being treated for depression doesn't mean all those positive aspects will leave too.

But if you've always had a low sex drive, maybe the depression isn't really factoring into it, and that's just a part of who you are. You don't really need to try to justify being fine with it, even if most of society for some reason puts such a premium on sex. As long as you can enjoy your life with little to no sex, and platonic friendships, then it's fine. Human sexuality comes in all spectrums. Have you looked into anything about asexuality?
 
fuck fuck fuck i just broke my wii u gamepad and i dont know how i could pay to fix it and i'm having an anxiety attack and i don't know who to talk to in the middle of the night

god i'm so fucking stupid, how could i break it
 
Wish I could talk to people that are close to me without being afraid to or wanting to change the subject. Insomnia sucks
 
fuck fuck fuck i just broke my wii u gamepad and i dont know how i could pay to fix it and i'm having an anxiety attack and i don't know who to talk to in the middle of the night

god i'm so fucking stupid, how could i break it

Call or mail Nintendo customer service, Im sure there are some kind of warranty.
 
Had a bit of a breakdown after being completely useless yesterday (and, frankly, the couple of days before that). Wrote a long post complaining (again), but I deleted it. There's no point really. Nothing to it but to try again. Today's the day things are going to change, I'll just start doing everything I need to do and not give myself any time to start thinking/doubting again.

Sending my positive vibes out to everyone on Gaf. If I can force myself to beat my fucked up brain, you (yes, you!) can too. Let's overcome this bitch, we've been in the dark long enough!
 
I'm tempted to delete all of my subscriptions (4260), but this is proving difficult due to my OCD. I need to do it since I know I'm wasting too much time here, and having that many threads is proving a headache.

I hoard too much in thinking I'll read it all one day. :/
 
I am sure depression can indeed cause a low sex drive (and it kind of dampens a lot of enjoyment from any pleasurable activity and takes motivation away from doing most things).

From what you say, it almost sounds like there are aspects about the depression that you are afraid you will miss once you get treated for it. I think a lot of people do appreciate the level of introspection and sensitivity and possibly even creativity they have when they have depression. And maybe you appreciate the low sex drive you have (as having a higher one can complicate your life more). It makes sense to me; but being treated for depression doesn't mean all those positive aspects will leave too.

But if you've always had a low sex drive, maybe the depression isn't really factoring into it, and that's just a part of who you are. You don't really need to try to justify being fine with it, even if most of society for some reason puts such a premium on sex. As long as you can enjoy your life with little to no sex, and platonic friendships, then it's fine. Human sexuality comes in all spectrums. Have you looked into anything about asexuality?
Depression sure as hell does take away motivation, and pleasure from doing anything (like eating).
Food doesn't taste the same as when i wasn't depressed. It is a damn chore when depressed. Always liked good food.

Can't think of anything positive things from depression. Nothing i want to keep. Not counting low sex drive. Which might not be a product of my depression, i really don't remember well how i was pre-depression. Could be that i've always had low sex drive, being strongly introverted (and overweight, which i hear may also affect this).
Either way, as i said, it doesn't bother me.

As for asexuality, nope, i'm not. I know that for sure. You can tell when you find someone attracting. Not a good combination when you also have a crush that person, and you're depressed. Closest to insanity i've known.

I'm tempted to delete all of my subscriptions (4260), but this is proving difficult due to my OCD. I need to do it since I know I'm wasting too much time here, and having that many threads is proving a headache.

I hoard too much in thinking I'll read it all one day. :/

Dude, what? 4000+ subs? What the hell man, what the hell?
I have just 9... and i follow about 3 of those actively (the rest are dead, seemingly).

Seriously, if it is keeping you too much here, do it, delete them.
 
im pretty sure severe eye floaters are ruinning my life

I sleep during the day because I cant look anywhere in daylight without seeing something like 8 squiggly long lines in each eye. Every time a solid color background shows up on my PC monitor I just feel like fucking crying

I honestly think ive become a depressed person over the last few months solely because of this (they stared appearing in february). I wanna gauge my eyes out. There's no solution, been to the eye doctor for weeks. this is now my life and I just cant deal with it, man. Gonna start therapy soon but I just want a medical solution and no one can give me one. I'd have to travel for surgery, spend a ton of money and risk losing my eyesight. It makes me not wanna do anything, I feel like I cant enjoy anything of the things I like. I cant fucking read, watch movies or play games without getting automatically distracted, and being outside is the worst of all

im losing it

When I first had them I got really depressed too, but now that I've had them for more than 3 years, i've actually gotten use to them to the point that I don't notice them.
 
Dude, what? 4000+ subs? What the hell man, what the hell?
I have just 9... and i follow about 3 of those actively (the rest are dead, seemingly).

Seriously, if it is keeping you too much here, do it, delete them.
I know. :(

I've got to do it.
 
m pretty sure severe eye floaters are ruinning my life

I sleep during the day because I cant look anywhere in daylight without seeing something like 8 squiggly long lines in each eye. Every time a solid color background shows up on my PC monitor I just feel like fucking crying

I honestly think ive become a depressed person over the last few months solely because of this (they stared appearing in february). I wanna gauge my eyes out. There's no solution, been to the eye doctor for weeks. this is now my life and I just cant deal with it, man. Gonna start therapy soon but I just want a medical solution and no one can give me one. I'd have to travel for surgery, spend a ton of money and risk losing my eyesight. It makes me not wanna do anything, I feel like I cant enjoy anything of the things I like. I cant fucking read, watch movies or play games without getting automatically distracted, and being outside is the worst of all

im losing it



Had them for most of my life, most of the time I don't notice them, I think their harmless or at least that's what people say. I wish that was the only thing causing me depression. Try living with a skin disorder on your face.....:(
 
When I first had them I got really depressed too, but now that I've had them for more than 3 years, i've actually gotten use to them to the point that I don't notice them.

Had them for most of my life, most of the time I don't notice them, I think their harmless or at least that's what people say. I wish that was the only thing causing me depression. Try living with a skin disorder on your face.....:(


I have like 6 black ones directly in the center of my vision, besides others that are less noticeable unless im in a bright area. The black ones are visible 100% of the time no matter the circumstance. I try to be hopeful about getting used to them or accepting them, but I dont really see a future where I stop noticing them. Just seems impossible with them getting directly in the way of me reading and stuff. I have to move my eyes every 10 seconds like a crazy person to get them away for like 5
 
Had a bit of a breakdown after being completely useless yesterday (and, frankly, the couple of days before that). Wrote a long post complaining (again), but I deleted it. There's no point really. Nothing to it but to try again. Today's the day things are going to change, I'll just start doing everything I need to do and not give myself any time to start thinking/doubting again.

Sending my positive vibes out to everyone on Gaf. If I can force myself to beat my fucked up brain, you (yes, you!) can too. Let's overcome this bitch, we've been in the dark long enough!

That's the spirit Boem!
Get out there and blast this music in your head all day!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btPJPFnesV4

Had a bad morning :(

Want to talk about it here?
I can listen via PM if you want.
There's a contact list on the OP if you're interested. Contact Bagels if you're unsure who would be best to talk to.

That seems like a healthy weight though! (I am the type to think that anything under 140lb is passable lol --my new avatar would probably still be Solar Cat but in a different style~)
And yeah, I don't think I would have suggested exercise.. if only at this moment, I know that feel. I should be exercising but have little motivation so I don't wanna be hypocritical. My friend once told me.. it's easier to just control portions than to put in the effort of exercising. XD

All the stress is probably making you crave the food more, but maybe with the exam over and things settling a little (I hope!), you can focus on making healthy food for fun or miniature food for fun, and then the bonus side would be tricking yourself into having small portions. But you are also strolling and harvesting and getting warmed by the sun. I think the point was that it almost became a metaphor for you feeling rejuvenated again, or at least recharging--even the spreading your roots/branches and reaching out some more. I think that sounds pretty good!

It is a healthy weight but it's still borderline to becoming overweight which I don't want to happen. Maybe I'm paranoid I don't know.

I don't know if things will settle once it's all over...Maybe if I give myself time before tackling my problems I can focus on cooking again. Right now I'm procrastinating taking my exam so I can avoid tackling my problems...=_= It sounds shallow but, I've been stressed with a lot of things emotionally that I just can't deal with too much shit.
 
While I haven't posted here as much lately, I just wanted to drop a note saying I still read every post and appreciate reading everything.

Go on. :x
 
Good afternoon GAF. I have finally decided to make a post in this thread after thinking about it long and hard. Whether just to vent or to get other's thoughts, I just want to post and hope it makes myself feel some better.

I am not entirely sure if I have a mental illness of some kind or that I have the normal "blues" or whatever. Every time that I feel like I am down, I tend to try to tell myself to basically "bootstraps" it and get myself together. This doesn't really help much but I keep going. I am not interested in harming myself or anything like that. I do have a constant feeling of hopelessness and helplessness though. I have a decent amount of debt to my name, mostly from student loans that while not nearly as bad as some people, it still feels soul crushing to me. I have had this debt for the last almost 10 years now. I could make the excuse that I was swooned/tricked into going to an expensive school and that what they promised me fell through much like a lot of people my age (late 20s) had happen. I don't want to blame anyone else though. It was my mistake. I was stupid and chose to go to that school even though I could have gone to a local one and gotten a similar if not better education that wouldn't have put me in such debt.

I have a decent job that makes more money than a lot of other people my age. I am not rich, but I make an okay living. The debt I'm carrying takes most of it though. For every paycheck I bring home twice a month, huge chunks of it go out to my bills whether it be debt, rent, food, etc. It causes me to feel awful almost daily. I feel inherently useless because I quit the school halfway through because I didn't want my debt to expand further and I came to the realization that I wasn't learning anything I couldn't have gotten elsewhere for cheaper. This left me with no degree to show for my efforts or my money. I frequently try to save the money I have but then something else crops up and takes it away. It has been one thing after another. As soon as I got one issue done, my car needed all four tires replaced. As soon as I got that done, my roommate which promised to stay with me until December of this year to allow me save up some funds to find a place, decided to bail out on me claiming he needed a cheaper place to live. He made these claims but then I see him buying a new PS3 and a bunch of games and other high priced items. It hurts every time as I went out of my way to room with him originally because he had no place to go, then when he couldn't find a job, I took his resume around the company where I work and got him a job. Hell, for a time, I was even his safety net in case he couldn't pay rent. I would take the full brunt. A month or so ago, he called me a bad friend. I am assuming it is because I keep on him to clean the house and basically take care of himself. This has been hurting me inside since that day.

I no longer enjoy or get excited about the things I once did. I know that sounds like a catch-all response, but it is the case with me. I take long drives around my hometown in the middle of the night because I feel like some revelation is waiting for me just out of reach and I wish I could feel better. That if it weren't for certain things like my debt, I would be happy! Maybe that's the case, maybe it isn't. I haven't not had the debt weighing on me for so long that I don't remember what it feels like to not have to worry about it. I am scared of never being able to afford to buy my own home for myself and my fiancee. Even though I know it is set to end on a certain date (roughly when I'm 35), I get the feeling this debt is just going to keep going and stick around forever...they'll find new ways to get me. Even just writing this post up, I am realizing more and more that that and how betrayed I feel about my roommate (and others who have walked over me in the past) are the root of a lot of my problems. I feel stressed, anxious, nauseous, extra tired and just ambivalent every day. I want to learn new things but I feel like my head is cloudy and doesn't want to remember anything or learn new skills.

To wrap up this post, I want to say that I want to trust humanity. Even though I know that there is a feeling that I see in a lot of GAF threads is that everyone around you is untrustworthy, I can't help myself. No matter how many times I get betrayed by people and treated poorly, I still come back and will trust the next one. Reading the news every day makes me feel worse and worse. As I'm sure a lot of people feel, I feel inherently betrayed by the government. I feel like we are not being represented anymore and where I and a lot of others need help, we will never see assistance. I feel aimless in my life right now and I have no direction to where I want to go. Every day just goes on as normal but I don't have any goals left. I don't feel the motivation to push myself towards reaching new heights and doing new things.

Thanks for reading if anyone cared to. My situation isn't as bad as a lot of others I'm sure. There are items I didn't mention because I didn't want to go on huge tangents. I feel fortunate to be in some positions I'm in because ATLEAST I make enough to pay my debts in some capacity. I know others haven't had that kind of luck.
 
I thank you for all your support but I'm okay. I have a severe problem with ruminations and in the morning when my anxiety is highest my ruminations are at full strength. It was particularly bad this morning. Hard for me to leave the past alone sometimes.
 
Remember you were supposed to talk to someone everyday. We made a deal about this, remember?...

I do remember. But people aren't always available, and I can't bring myself to talk to just anyone; my trust issues are just too far reaching. Also there are times when I feel some things that are bothering me are just better left unsaid/bottled.
 
Anyone have any experiences of dealing with people who suffer from Bipolar disorder?

What did you experience and how did you manage it?
 
As someone who has OCD/mild depression+anxiety, do meds actually work?

I feel like I'm stuck in the middle between feeling "good/normal" and feeling "depressed as fuck". So, in a way, I don't feel depressed enough to need them but at the same time I don't feel good either, so maybe they might help.

I'm just wondering if they actually help. Do you feel a lot better? Do you have less bad thoughts?

Another question btw: I seem to have periods where I feel pretty depressed and everything goes wrong, like I'm thinking about every action etc. The amount of days usually varies, but when it hits me, I feel like I'm gonna be like that my entire life and that the thoughts won't disappear. Then I get better after a week or so (still depressed/ocd etc, but not as bad anymore) and I can't even remember why that past week was so bad. It's really weird.
 
Another question btw: I seem to have periods where I feel pretty depressed and everything goes wrong, like I'm thinking about every action etc. The amount of days usually varies, but when it hits me, I feel like I'm gonna be like that my entire life and that the thoughts won't disappear. Then I get better after a week or so (still depressed/ocd etc, but not as bad anymore) and I can't even remember why that past week was so bad. It's really weird.

I also bounce beetween rather bad depression and being almost "normal" (hell, i don't remember what normal is. All i know that i'm actually interested in stuff again).

Seems to be following about weekly or bi-weekly... uh, cycle. Week bad, week good. Or sometimes it is first good half of week, bad second half. Or perhaps the latter one used to be. I don't remember.
Depression has broken my memory seemingly. Or perhaps it is lack of proper routine. Either way, i don't remember well.

So down and no one to talk to.

Tell me 'bout it.
Wait, i mean, i know what you mean.
Wait, i don't mean you shouldn't talk to me/us.

And why do i feel so damn active. Not manic, no i don't think so (just compared to normal depressed state). Perhaps i drank too much Coke, energy+cofein.
 
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