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He could have arranged an adoption behind his wifes back or something instead.
Especially considering it was his own damn fault... Knowing the cat has issues knocking things over and not doing anything to secure his valuables.

It's one thing to give it to a shelter if you're unable to fulfill your responsibilities. It's another to let it go.
 
Talk about over-personifying an animal. Cats dont even pass the mirror test.

They don't? I thought they did, my cat was all "CAT IN MIRROR, ATTACK!!" whenever I held him up to one, I did this a few times and eventually he stopped and he doesn't give a shit about mirrors anymore. Now whether he can tell it's not actually "there" or that it's himself is a different matter, I guess.

Unless I have a super intelligent cat who can discern what is real and what is not.
 
Especially considering it was his own damn fault... Knowing the cat has issues knocking things over and not doing anything to secure his valuables.

It's one thing to give it to a shelter if you're unable to fulfill your responsibilities. It's another to let it go.
Yup. I honestly feel like its the same as saying "my wifes kid has behavioral problems, so i threw him out."
 
They don't? I thought they did, my cat was all "CAT IN MIRROR, ATTACK!!" whenever I held him up to one, I did this a few times and eventually he stopped and he doesn't give a shit about mirrors anymore. Now whether he can tell it's not actually "there" or that it's himself is a different matter, I guess.

Unless I have a super intelligent cat who can discern what is real and what is not.

That can be explained by the process of habituation. It might recognize the "other" cat who keeps on appearing and now doesn't bother attacking it since it was never successful at scaring it off its turf before.

But yeah, in lab setting cats (and dogs) have not passed the mirror test.

One of my cats learned how to use a doorknob. That has to count for something.

Oh yeah, no doubt cats are smart.

But they aren't thinking: "Fuck him, I'm going to knock over this 100 year old hand made heirloom since it is clearly the most important thing he cares about! Nyaaa!"

At best I think the cat made an association that knocking something over (or the loud sound it created) and the attention it then received. You can probably train a cat to stop doing that by spraying it with water whenever it knocks something over.
 
This one is completely my cat. I just stood with the door open for 3 minutes waiting on her to decide if she wants out or not.

I had a cat that freaked out every time it went outside so I'd just sit outside with the other cat while it sat in the doorway and scared itself stupid. Oh man I think I have a picture of it doing just that, hold on...

Yep. It would go out on the porch like this and be scared; at the slightest provocation it would dash back in. It went out every time the door was open though, who knows why.
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Bonus picture because it was the fuzziest kitty.
 
knocking over a hundred year old hand made family heirloom? It was time to go.


You told the cat it was a heirloom? Really, who is at fault here?

They don't? I thought they did, my cat was all "CAT IN MIRROR, ATTACK!!"

The mirror test is an experiment developed in 1970 by psychologist Gordon Gallup Jr. to determine whether an animal possesses the ability to recognize itself in a mirror.

So yeah it really didn't pass.
 
That second one is my cat holy shit.

If I get on the computer for even 5 minutes it'll run from the basement all the way upstairs just to get on my keyboard. Damn bastard cat. XD
 
One of my cats learned how to use a doorknob. That has to count for something.
I think they're smart animals. One of my cats knows how to activate our treadmill. He picks the magnetic key up, lowers it into place, and stomps around until he hits the start button and it beeps (or, if he drops the key on the ground/can't get it to beep, he starts meowing until someone else does it). Then he does his trot for a few minutes before getting bored.

He also opens cupboards and figured out how to undo the latch on his food bin.

But those are little mechanical things. A cat isn't going to make a connection between you and a 100 year old family heirloom. He's not going to think "boy, I bet this will really piss him off."
 
You told the cat it was a heirloom? Really, who is at fault here?

Certainly not the owner, the cat did it out of spite. It's not like you could put your old family heirloom in a protective glass case. Then again, the cat would most likely use its claws to cut a hole in the case and then tip it over.

Edit: And yeah my cat knows how to open doors, he sometimes gets the idea he's allowed outside (I live in an apartment) and he jumps up to grab the handle in order to open the door. He also likes to open up a cupboard, where he frequently takes naps.
 
I think they're smart animals. One of my cats knows how to activate our treadmill. He picks the magnetic key up, lowers it into place, and stomps around until he hits the start button and it beeps (or, if he drops the key on the ground/can't get it to beep, he starts meowing until someone else does it). Then he does his trot for a few minutes before getting bored.

That's so awesome.
 
Oh yeah, no doubt cats are smart.

But they aren't thinking: "Fuck him, I'm going to knock over this 100 year old hand made heirloom since it is clearly the most important thing he cares about! Nyaaa!"

I don't know.

First it's opening doors.

Then it's taking over the world.
 
I think they're smart animals. One of my cats knows how to activate our treadmill. He picks the magnetic key up, lowers it into place, and stomps around until he hits the start button and it beeps (or, if he drops the key on the ground/can't get it to beep, he starts meowing until someone else does it). Then he does his trot for a few minutes before getting bored.

He also opens cupboards and figured out how to undo the latch on his food bin.

But those are little mechanical things. A cat isn't going to make a connection between you and a 100 year old family heirloom. He's not going to think "boy, I bet this will really piss him off."

Holy shit that is awesome. Can you take a video of your cat doing this?
 
So yeah it really didn't pass.

The mirror test is just to determine if an animal has a sense of self, it doesn't actually measure intelligence.

Now, my cat occassionally forgetting it has a tail and chasing it, that's pretty dumb.
 
There are no shelters in my area at all, so that wasn't an option. Trying to train him went nowhere, even though our other cat trained just fine. We tried giving him away, but he was so impersonal and sometimes mean to people that came over so that never got anywhere.

As for the vase, the only way in hell he.could have gotten to.it was by climbing up one set of shelves, commando crawling across a thin curtain rod for several feet, then leaping about three feet to the shelf. If he didn't do.it on purpose, he must have had one hell of a reason for being up there.
 
The mirror test is just to determine if an animal has a sense of self, it doesn't actually measure intelligence.

Well yes, though a sense of self would be required for a cat to specifically go "Fuck you I shall target this 100 year old family heirloom that has a lot of sentimental value because I WANT ATTENTION NOW!"
 
The mirror test is just to determine if an animal has a sense of self, it doesn't actually measure intelligence.

Now, my cat occassionally forgetting it has a tail and chasing it, that's pretty dumb.

Yeah that was my point. The guy thought it passed the test because it recognized its own image to be another cat. At least that's how I read it.
 
Holy shit that is awesome. Can you take a video of your cat doing this?

I can definitely get him running, but getting him to start it up himself is a right place, right time thing. I've seen him do it twice (once just hearing him jump up there, getting it to beep, and doing a loud meow of victory). Usually he just picks up the key, lowers it, picks it up, lowers it, and then when he finally decides to let go, misses the spot completely and whines until someone fixes it. I can get video of that probably.

I've come home from work a couple of times to find the treadmill going, so I know he's been practicing.

I will try to get video right now, give me a few minutes.
 
Of my three cats, there is one that does this so hard it's not funny. She makes noise, trips you up, leads you to her (often full) bowl and sits, waiting.

I think my cat just enjoys my company when she wants to eat. She'll eat on her own if she's really hungry, but if I'm up and walking around she'll lead me to her food and water and wait for me to pet her enough before she starts.

And it's only me she'll do that to. She loves the bf to death (more than me), but I'm the one she goes to bed with and goes to for food.
 
I think my cat just enjoys my company when she wants to eat. She'll eat on her own if she's really hungry, but if I'm up and walking around she'll lead me to her food and water and wait for me to pet her enough before she starts.

And it's only me she'll do that to. She loves the bf to death (more than me), but I'm the one she goes to bed with and goes to for food.

Yeah, she only did that with me for years, but now that my son can show affection without ripping her fur out she's starting to do it to him, too. I don't mind it at all, except when she starts running between his legs at the top of the stairs.

Thankfully I'm always there.
 
I can definitely get him running, but getting him to start it up himself is a right place, right time thing. I've seen him do it twice (once just hearing him jump up there, getting it to beep, and doing a loud meow of victory). Usually he just picks up the key, lowers it, picks it up, lowers it, and then when he finally decides to let go, misses the spot completely and whines until someone fixes it. I can get video of that probably.

I've come home from work a couple of times to find the treadmill going, so I know he's been practicing.

I will try to get video right now, give me a few minutes.

Thanks. I appreciate it. :)
 
That can be explained by the process of habituation. It might recognize the "other" cat who keeps on appearing and now doesn't bother attacking it since it was never successful at scaring it off its turf before.

But yeah, in lab setting cats (and dogs) have not passed the mirror test.

My cat makes eye contact with me through a mirror. I don't know if that counts as passing the mirror test, but it's creepy.
 
Of my three cats, there is one that does this so hard it's not funny. She makes noise, trips you up, leads you to her (often full) bowl and sits, waiting.

Mine is pretty dumb as I sometimes just take the bowl away and put it back on the floor and he'll start eating.
 

Before I got my cat I would shut the bathroom door even when I was living alone. But she would start sticking her paw under the door and being absolutely pathetic, like she'd never see me again. From then on I formed a habit of never closing the door... which I don't think my current girlfriend appreciates.
 
The water one is definitely my cat.

He'll only drink the water in his bowl for maybe the first five minutes after you fill it. Beyond that point he won't touch it unless you fill it again.

If you don't refill the bowl, he'll eventually start using drastic measures like trying to drink out of glasses of water or licking the inside of the bathtub spout.
 
"I am going to cry amd whine and crave attention at three am, and if I don't get it I will knock your grandmothers antique vase onto the floor shattering it to wake you up and.... Why are we going outside?"

I hated that cat. My wife still thinks he snuck out.

He had a long history of knocking things over in the middle of the night to get our attention. And considering the amount of effort needed to even reach that vase, he did it purely out of spite for me ignoring him since my wife wasn't home and I refused to wake up. Knocking over picture frames is one thing, knocking over a hundred year old hand made family heirloom? It was time to go.

Now this is a situation where I'd like to see the internet detectives do their thing and inform his wife of what he did.
 
Spray bottle filled with water usually does the trick to teach them not to do something.

EDIT:
Oh and do not declaw them if you want your cat to ever like you again. They use their nails for more things than just scratching stuff.

This is ridiculous. My cat is still fine with every single one of the people in my family. If you do it when they're a kitten, they're fine.

That said, had I been older when my cat had it done (she's 14), I wouldn't have been for it.
 
He had a long history of knocking things over in the middle of the night to get our attention. And considering the amount of effort needed to even reach that vase, he did it purely out of spite for me ignoring him since my wife wasn't home and I refused to wake up. Knocking over picture frames is one thing, knocking over a hundred year old hand made family heirloom? It was time to go.

Also, you're a ass and I hope you end up in the street without a home like the cat.

Why would you throw a cat out in Minnesota with the winters up there because you didn't take the responsibility to tuck away something fragile?
 
"I am going to cry amd whine and crave attention at three am, and if I don't get it I will knock your grandmothers antique vase onto the floor shattering it to wake you up and.... Why are we going outside?"

I hated that cat. My wife still thinks he snuck out.

Please change your avatar, you're a disgusting person. I don't want myself nor Minnesota be associated with an asshole who would throw a family member out onto the streets. Not with the cold winters we have here.

You betrayed your family's trust and you most likely killed an animal to whom you meant the world.
 
Please change your avatar, you're a disgusting person. I don't want myself nor my state to be associated with an asshole who would throw a family member out onto the streets. Not with the cold winters we have here in Minnesota.

You betrayed your family's trust and you most likely killed an animal to whom you meant the world.

My money is on him not coming back in the topic or trying to marginalize/justify it with some stupid fucking argument if he does.
 
One of our cats will only drink water out of a tall glass on the coffee table. Ice preferable.

The same cat also wants me to go out with him, immediately leaping onto the porch banister ready to be brushed. I just frigging brushed you!
 
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