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As far as cats being smart my dad had to basically put stuff behind the sink levers so that my cat couldn't keep turning on the faucet every time she wanted fresh water.
 
My money is on him not coming back in the topic or trying to marginalize/justify it with some stupid fucking argument if he does.

There are no shelters in my area at all, so that wasn't an option. Trying to train him went nowhere, even though our other cat trained just fine. We tried giving him away, but he was so impersonal and sometimes mean to people that came over so that never got anywhere.

As for the vase, the only way in hell he.could have gotten to.it was by climbing up one set of shelves, commando crawling across a thin curtain rod for several feet, then leaping about three feet to the shelf. If he didn't do.it on purpose, he must have had one hell of a reason for being up there.

That's just what he did unfortunately. Soo much bs in that first paragraph, and tons of projection in the other.
 
Please change your avatar, you're a disgusting person. I don't want myself nor Minnesota be associated with an asshole who would throw a family member out onto the streets. Not with the cold winters we have here.

You betrayed your family's trust and you most likely killed an animal to whom you meant the world.

He wasn't declawed, and there are already tons of cats that survive outside in the winters in Minnesota. I at the very least gave him a shot at survival, unlike most people where I live who would have just put him down rather than deal with him.

And don't give me that family member crap, we have other cats that mean the world to us. He was a self centered little monster that demanded he be the alpha male 100% of the time. My wife wasn't even upset that he vanished as it caused our other cats to calm the fuck down.

He pushed his luck one to many times, I left it up to fate. Unless you all would rather I had just dropped him off at the vet, who would have put him down for certain as he just could not get along with people.
 
He wasn't declawed, and there are already tons of cats that survive outside in the winters in Minnesota. I at the very least gave him a shot at survival, unlike most people where I live who would have just put him down rather than deal with him.

And don't give me that family member crap, we have other cats that mean the world to us. He was a self centered little monster that demanded he be the alpha male 100% of the time. My wife wasn't even upset that he vanished as it caused our other cats to calm the fuck down.

He pushed his luck one to many times, I left it up to fate. Unless you all would rather I had just dropped him off at the vet, who would have put him down for certain as he just could not get along with people.

Holy fuck.
 
He wasn't declawed, and there are already tons of cats that survive outside in the winters in Minnesota. I at the very least gave him a shot at survival, unlike most people where I live who would have just put him down rather than deal with him.

And don't give me that family member crap, we have other cats that mean the world to us. He was a self centered little monster that demanded he be the alpha male 100% of the time. My wife wasn't even upset that he vanished as it caused our other cats to calm the fuck down.

He pushed his luck one to many times, I left it up to fate. Unless you all would rather I had just dropped him off at the vet, who would have put him down for certain as he just could not get along with people.

I'm not an animal rights person in the slightest (I grew up on a dairy farm, for chrissakes), but I'm pretty sure euthanasia in a vet's office would be preferable to a prolonged death out on the streets.

Feral cats can survive outside in the cold. House cats turned out on the streets are as good as dead.
 
He wasn't declawed, and there are already tons of cats that survive outside in the winters in Minnesota. I at the very least gave him a shot at survival, unlike most people where I live who would have just put him down rather than deal with him.

And don't give me that family member crap, we have other cats that mean the world to us. He was a self centered little monster that demanded he be the alpha male 100% of the time. My wife wasn't even upset that he vanished as it caused our other cats to calm the fuck down.

He pushed his luck one to many times, I left it up to fate. Unless you all would rather I had just dropped him off at the vet, who would have put him down for certain as he just could not get along with people.

I've been watching a show lately about cats with behavioral problems and how it is absolutely not impossible to turn them around entirely if you figure out what the issues are and attempt to resolve them. Please understand that a cat cannot push his luck, as it is an animal. I see no indication that you attempted to actually figure out this cat's problem and proactively resolve it. Instead, you literally threw it away.

Nice job, you [insert personal insult that would get me banned].
 
He wasn't declawed, and there are already tons of cats that survive outside in the winters in Minnesota. I at the very least gave him a shot at survival, unlike most people where I live who would have just put him down rather than deal with him.

And don't give me that family member crap, we have other cats that mean the world to us. He was a self centered little monster that demanded he be the alpha male 100% of the time. My wife wasn't even upset that he vanished as it caused our other cats to calm the fuck down.

He pushed his luck one to many times, I left it up to fate. Unless you all would rather I had just dropped him off at the vet, who would have put him down for certain as he just could not get along with people.

You don't fucking get it.
 
I've been watching a show lately about cats with behavioral problems and how it is absolutely not impossible to turn them around entirely if you figure out what the issues are and attempt to resolve them. Please understand that a cat cannot push his luck, as it is an animal. I see no indication that you attempted to actually figure out this cat's problem and proactively resolve it. Instead, you literally threw it away.

Nice job, you [insert personal insult that would get me banned].

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Probably the most common thing that comes up on the show is "the cat is not doing anything out of spite."
 
I think the things that make cats so weird are also the coolest things about them. I wish I had a cat but both my wife and I are alergic.

We have a Dachshund that absolutely loves cats. She never stops trying to play with them or lick them. She has gotten swatted in the face so many times haha.
 
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Probably the most common thing that comes up on the show is "the cat is not doing anything out of spite."[/QUOTE]

Yep that's the fellow.

There was a cat that would get all pissed off if the owners tried to pet it, hiss and bite. Couldn't be trained out of it. "But oh wait," it's because it had developed arthritis, and touching it literally [I]caused it pain[/I]. Managing the symptoms became the solution.

It is a very rare thing (though it happens sure) when the behavioral issues a pet has are not something that can be mended. It can take a long time and a lot of effort, but I am fairly confident in saying that the attempt is better than [I]throwing the fucking cat outside[/I].
 
He wasn't declawed, and there are already tons of cats that survive outside in the winters in Minnesota. I at the very least gave him a shot at survival, unlike most people where I live who would have just put him down rather than deal with him.

And don't give me that family member crap, we have other cats that mean the world to us. He was a self centered little monster that demanded he be the alpha male 100% of the time. My wife wasn't even upset that he vanished as it caused our other cats to calm the fuck down.

He pushed his luck one to many times, I left it up to fate. Unless you all would rather I had just dropped him off at the vet, who would have put him down for certain as he just could not get along with people.
Just for the record, yeah, I would have preferred you just had him put down. Assuming this was an indoor cat all its life you probably condemned him to a miserable existence and a long, painful death, with the potential for causing trouble for other people in the meantime. Also you lied to your wife.
 
He wasn't declawed, and there are already tons of cats that survive outside in the winters in Minnesota. I at the very least gave him a shot at survival, unlike most people where I live who would have just put him down rather than deal with him.

And don't give me that family member crap, we have other cats that mean the world to us. He was a self centered little monster that demanded he be the alpha male 100% of the time. My wife wasn't even upset that he vanished as it caused our other cats to calm the fuck down.

He pushed his luck one to many times, I left it up to fate. Unless you all would rather I had just dropped him off at the vet, who would have put him down for certain as he just could not get along with people.

I too had a cat with serious behavioral issues. He would stalk my other cats, chase them, and make them quite uneasy at times. Especially one of my cats who was even getting ambushed while taking shits/pee in the litter box.

But at no point did I ever think "hey, fuck this cat, im ditching it" and throw him outside forever, or put him in a shelter. It is your responsibility no matter what, and you can't just terminate its existence when it suddenly becomes inconvenient. You adopted that animal, and with that comes some responsibility.

For the record there is zero evidence to suggest cats (or dogs!) ever do things out of spite. They literally don't have the mental capacity to understand that. My one cat knocks shit over all the time... why? Because its fun for him to see things break or fall down. Hes not doing it to hurt me.

No shelters in your area? Cmon.... REALLY? You live in Nunavut or something?
 
I too had a cat with serious behavioral issues. He would stalk my other cats, chase them, and make them quite uneasy at times. Especially one of my cats who was even getting ambushed while taking shits/pee in the litter box.

But at no point did I ever think "hey, fuck this cat, im ditching it" and throw him outside forever, or put him in a shelter. It is your responsibility no matter what, and you can't just terminate its existence when it suddenly becomes inconvenient. You adopted that animal, and with that comes some responsibility.

For the record there is zero evidence to suggest cats (or dogs!) ever do things out of spite. They literally don't have the mental capacity to understand that. My one cat knocks shit over all the time... why? Because its fun for him to see things break or fall down. Hes not doing it to hurt me.

No shelters in your area? Cmon.... REALLY? You live in Nunavut or something?

Apparently he's a supervisor at a factory with a "bunch of rednecks" (quoting a previous post by him) working under him.

In Minnesota, that means he's out in the boonies, not in the Twin Cities.
 
Apparently he's a supervisor at a factory with a "bunch of rednecks" (quoting a previous post by him) working under him.

In Minnesota, that means he's out in the boonies, not in the Twin Cities.

I mean...I have beef with a certain cat of mine as well, but I'd make the drive to wherever I needed to if it wasn't working. It's a responsibility.
 

Most definitely. And let me sit here and whine that I have no more gravy for the next half hour.

Does anyone have a cat that DARTS into the kitchen everytime there is even hint of anything that sounds like a can opening? :\ Sometimes it's completely bogus, like a drawer opening and she rushes in and slides on the rug. Good for a chuckle every so often. (When her claws don't grab your feet.)
 
"I am going to cry amd whine and crave attention at three am, and if I don't get it I will knock your grandmothers antique vase onto the floor shattering it to wake you up and.... Why are we going outside?"

I hated that cat. My wife still thinks he snuck out.

Pet owner of the year over here. He probably got hit by a car. Good job, champ.

Probably the most common thing that comes up on the show is "the cat is not doing anything out of spite."

My mom has this issue with her cats. She absolutely refuses to believe that they don't misbehave out of spite and it annoys the fuck out of me. Pee in the corner? You're going to get locked up in a room for 3 weeks with barely any human contact. She doesn't take criticism well. Punishing animals is pointless.
 
There are no shelters in my area at all, so that wasn't an option. Trying to train him went nowhere, even though our other cat trained just fine. We tried giving him away, but he was so impersonal and sometimes mean to people that came over so that never got anywhere.

As for the vase, the only way in hell he.could have gotten to.it was by climbing up one set of shelves, commando crawling across a thin curtain rod for several feet, then leaping about three feet to the shelf. If he didn't do.it on purpose, he must have had one hell of a reason for being up there.

You're actually trying to tell us that the cat was able to identify a precious heirloom just to fuck with you? To push his luck? Cats explore. They go places they wonder if they can go, and they probably fall down from the places they can't reach. That's why he was up there. Maybe he was bored? Maybe you didn't properly care for him?

He was up there because he was up there. He climbed, and however he did it, he was probably just doing it because he was bored or not feeling as he should. Restless - what do I know. You have to tolerate a certain loss of value of certain things when you have cats. You can't yell at them for shedding on your carpet, you can't kill them for sharpening their claws on your couch, you can stop with your behavior. If you don't correct it, and you rather just enforce what they're doing it for, as getting your attention when they're scratching the couch, and when you get up to yell, they just know "ok, stop now, and then he's up anyway, and I'll be fed".

You have to let them know you're not messing around. If they scratch up shit, do discipline noises (TSH-TSH-TSH does the trick for me), get up, and remove them, then get back to your business. They learn on basic feedback. If they get your attention doing shit, they'll do shit to get attention. Things that are valuable need to be kept in a place you know they're safe. If they go down even then, you cannot blame your cat. It might be too fat, it might be too stupid to realize what it fits through, but it is not your cats fault.

Everyone can describe behavior their cats have to get attention.

He wasn't declawed, and there are already tons of cats that survive outside in the winters in Minnesota. I at the very least gave him a shot at survival, unlike most people where I live who would have just put him down rather than deal with him.

And don't give me that family member crap, we have other cats that mean the world to us. He was a self centered little monster that demanded he be the alpha male 100% of the time. My wife wasn't even upset that he vanished as it caused our other cats to calm the fuck down.

He pushed his luck one to many times, I left it up to fate. Unless you all would rather I had just dropped him off at the vet, who would have put him down for certain as he just could not get along with people.

Fate? An indoor cat? Dude, you fucked up bad. You were not only not able to take care of this cat, but you also took it to yourself to judge that he had to go. You lied to your wife. You still are. You threw him out, and you justify it with a horribly ignorant statement of "at least he has a shot". No he doesn't. Not outdoors. You also fool yourself to thinking this is the better option, like you've somehow been not a complete asshole about the whole thing.

Just admit to yourself, at least, that you killed an animal because you deemed it too much of a hassle. Then at least you can get on to the next stage of "but I really did try, there was nothing more I could do"
 
the last time I was at my parent's place one of our cat snuck up on me from behind, jumped on my shoulder while I was standing (!) and ate the slices of ham on my bread while still balancing on my body
 
Just for the record, yeah, I would have preferred you just had him put down. Assuming this was an indoor cat all its life you probably condemned him to a miserable existence and a long, painful death, with the potential for causing trouble for other people in the meantime. Also you lied to your wife.

He had been an indoor/outdoor cat when we got him. Inside most of the time, outside once in a while. So the great outdoors were nothing new to him. Which is why I had no qualms dumping him in the yard and letting him fend for himself. He had gotten out before and was gone for several days before we saw him lounging on our neighbors table so he was more than comfortable being outside. Which is why I doubt he ever died, he probably did just fine on his own.
 
He had been an indoor/outdoor cat when we got him. Inside most of the time, outside once in a while. So the great outdoors were nothing new to him. Which is why I had no qualms dumping him in the yard and letting him fend for himself. He had gotten out before and was gone for several days before we saw him lounging on our neighbors table so he was more than comfortable being outside. Which is why I doubt he ever died, he probably did just fine on his own.

Whatever you have to tell yourself, dude.

How pissed would your wife be if she ever found out?
 
He had been an indoor/outdoor cat when we got him. Inside most of the time, outside once in a while. So the great outdoors were nothing new to him. Which is why I had no qualms dumping him in the yard and letting him fend for himself. He had gotten out before and was gone for several days before we saw him lounging on our neighbors table so he was more than comfortable being outside. Which is why I doubt he ever died, he probably did just fine on his own.

You should just stop, the more you try to justify what you did, the worse you look.
 
He wasn't declawed, and there are already tons of cats that survive outside in the winters in Minnesota. I at the very least gave him a shot at survival, unlike most people where I live who would have just put him down rather than deal with him.

And don't give me that family member crap, we have other cats that mean the world to us. He was a self centered little monster that demanded he be the alpha male 100% of the time. My wife wasn't even upset that he vanished as it caused our other cats to calm the fuck down.

He pushed his luck one to many times, I left it up to fate. Unless you all would rather I had just dropped him off at the vet, who would have put him down for certain as he just could not get along with people.

Wow...
 
He had been an indoor/outdoor cat when we got him. Inside most of the time, outside once in a while. So the great outdoors were nothing new to him. Which is why I had no qualms dumping him in the yard and letting him fend for himself. He had gotten out before and was gone for several days before we saw him lounging on our neighbors table so he was more than comfortable being outside. Which is why I doubt he ever died, he probably did just fine on his own.

Then tell your wife.

I know pet-morals are pretty much relative, but you can't even pretend it's right to lie to your wife about throwing out a cat "to live in the wild". If you put him outside, why the hell would he just disappear? Any cat would just hang around. Or are you trying to tell us he was spiteful for being put outside, so he left for good?
 
Then tell your wife.

"He's doing a lot better outside. It would have been cruel to keep him indoors!"

I know pet-morals are pretty much relative, but you can't even pretend it's right to lie to your wife about throwing out a cat "to live in the wild". If you put him outside, why the hell would he just disappear? Any cat would just hang around. Or are you trying to tell us he was spiteful for being put outside, so he left for good?

This is a good point. Every time one of my cats has slipped outdoors that linger as close to home as possible and wait to be found. Perhaps vyroxis dumped him in a trash bag at the side of the road.
 
As I stated before, she got over it very quickly. We were already at wits end with him, so at most she would be irked that I didn't let her get rid of him.

So why have you kept the truth a secret if it's no problem?


BTW: As you said, when he wandered out before, you found him lounging around a few days later. That's what cats do, regardless of whether they're indoors or outdoors. They explore, but they generally hang around.

The fact that you don't see him around anymore means that he's gone. Keep telling yourself he's doing well. Lie to yourself and say that he probably got picked up by a shelter and found a new home.

But you're in denial. The most likely outcome is that the cat you threw out of the home died lonely, painfully, cold, and miserable. And you did it to him.
 
Fuck. Here I come for some funny cat pictures and I get a cat killer. Just my luck.
Onto the ignore list you go.

Funny:
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My old cat didn't drink from anything but the neighbours fish pond and the sink tap...
 
Fuck. Here I come for some funny cat pictures and I get a cat killer. Just my luck.
Onto the ignore list you go.

Funny:

My old cat didn't drink from anything but the neighbours fish pond and the sink...

I have to change my cat's water almost constantly because if it isn't the right temperature she's unhappy.
 
I have to change my cat's water almost constantly because if it isn't the right temperature she's unhappy.

Used to let her watch me fill her bowl with fresh water from the tap and she would drink it... if it still was on the sink or at least sink-level. As soon as that bowl touched the floor it was ruined :/
 
You people spoil your cats.

They will drink the water they are served when they get thirsty enough.
Outdoor cat, constant access to that pond. It was when she was either sick or blizzard level of weather.

EDIT: This was meant to be an edit, but I pressed the wrong button.
 
As I stated before, she got over it very quickly. We were already at wits end with him, so at most she would be irked that I didn't let her get rid of him.
Not only do you make yourself look worse with every post, but now your wife, too. lol.
 
I hate that this otherwise great topic was ruined by a fucking heartless cat killer.

I can't stand people who are terrible to their pets, or awful to animals in general.
 
Fuck. Here I come for some funny cat pictures and I get a cat killer. Just my luck.
Onto the ignore list you go.

Funny:
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My old cat didn't drink from anything but the neighbours fish pond and the sink tap...

Lord yes.
My cats will drink out the sink, bath tub, pots of water my mum is using to try and grow stuff in or a teacup that we've started leaving on the windowsill for them but not out the bowl that is left with their food
 
I hate that this otherwise great topic was ruined by a fucking heartless cat killer.

I can't stand people who are terrible to their pets, or awful to animals in general.

I like how he's acting all indignant like he's being maligned unfairly even though nobody in their right mind would pop into a "funny cat habits" topic with a "I killed my cat because it sort of annoyed me" post. Seems like trolling.
 
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