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Skullgirls DLC Character vote | The Campaign united us, The Voting will destroy us
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QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
All I know is that this character thing has shown me how bad of taste people have here 
It's a shame Marie doesnt look like she does in those concepts. I wonder if they went with that angle of design for her they would rework the boss sprites.
CAUSE DAMN IF SHE ISNT THE SECOND WORST LOOKING CHARACTER IN THE GAME
It's a shame Marie doesnt look like she does in those concepts. I wonder if they went with that angle of design for her they would rework the boss sprites.
CAUSE DAMN IF SHE ISNT THE SECOND WORST LOOKING CHARACTER IN THE GAME
I am getting MASSIVE shades of Bayonetta from Venus... Oh man, can I re-adjust my votes please? :lol
Black Dahlia certainly takes a lesson from Cable/Chris Redfield with all of those gadgets at her disposal. I swear I saw perfume grenade and thought "FIRE IN THE HOLE".
After seeing these pictures I should have ranked Venus and Umbrella lower.
Ultimadrago
Member
Alex just posted so much awesomeness.
http://o-8.tumblr.com/post/49845340159/officialskullgirls-hi-guys-this-message-comes
Yes, yes. This will do nicely.
Oh my god.
Oh my god.
Oh my god.
I can't
Perfume grenades and chainsaw attachments? Goddamn!
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
why are people saying black is ranged? the grenade launcher is there for irony. Thats always been her design.
Oldschoolgamer
The physical form of blasphemy
Venus' concepts are amazing. Black Dahlia's as well. Marie's are cool too.
Those concepts are too good. It's gonna be so unfair to any new-thought out character to compete.
Yeah, the basic idea behind her design is that the grenade launcher is there to distract opponents and lul them into a sense of security when they get close to her.
Yeah, the basic idea behind her design is that the grenade launcher is there to distract opponents and lul them into a sense of security when they get close to her.
Also Marie just went up a few places in my rankings.
This - Marie just started looking a lot more interesting, and if she were to make it, I'd hope her regular form's attacks would make it to her boss form - whether they'd be a first or last resort I don't know or care, but a less static feel would be priceless for her, since the liveliest she looks in the whole game is in Double's story mode intro, and that's a static image where there's actual liveliness to her look.
Were I to vote again, I'd probably rank her above Umbrella - I'm not terribly fond of the shapes Hungern twists itself into. But still under Dhalia, although with Eliza in, the game's already got its share of evil classy ladies (Skulldames?).
DiscoShark
Banned
Black Dahlia's concept art makes her decidedly less interesting to me actually, still gonna be looking forward to seeing MikeZ's demo to get a feel for what she might be able to accomplish with her projectile game.
Marie and Venus on the other hand probably bumped themselves up to a higher priority in my book.
Marie and Venus on the other hand probably bumped themselves up to a higher priority in my book.
Parasoul's level 3, man. Would be a bit boring to just do another one.
SolarPowered
Member
Dahlia is a lone wolf. She can barely stand to work with Ottomo's operator as is.
I'm glad that I made the right choices regarding these two. Marie got significantly bumped from something like my fifteenth place character to number six. She'll be tons of fun and Venus is... well, she has the potential to do just about anything she wants. She is SG's version of Shuma Gorath.
Those concepts are the reason why Venus has been consistently in my top 3. The potential for what they can do with her is incredible. My interest in Marie, Dahlia and Umbrella have shot up also. This pretty much confirms that we need all of the characters. Anybody got a few million dollars sitting around?
It's like everyone forgets these characters will all get a lot cool'er looking once they finally get into the game XD
Would have been totally fine waiting on Round 2 votes, and getting more sketchworks of movesets like this; so many characters getting pushed under the bus, left to rot in obscurity, even though seeing them in some form of action might make them much more loved.
Good to see a reminder of Dhalia's "This grenade launcher is all about misdirection!" aspects, that seems to get forgotten a lot.
Marie's boss form is one of the worse animated "static bosses" in gaming, you can really tell she was a late addition for story reasons. This doesn't make her horrible, but it does make it obvious she'd be much more interesting with some real animations. She's far from her full self, but at least she gets some gameplay representation; That's much more than the losers of these votes will get, at least in the near future.
Surprised with how many normal-looking Body parts Venus is tossing around. Makes me think of One Piece's Nico Robin. Still a bit too similiar to "Double, but with her own moves" for my taste, at least for now. The Bayonette-a-like elements are not easily missed.
Umbrella looks like... I'd expect. Fine with just Parasoul for now, thanks! Too many unique concepts, to overload on anything too similiar.
Would have been totally fine waiting on Round 2 votes, and getting more sketchworks of movesets like this; so many characters getting pushed under the bus, left to rot in obscurity, even though seeing them in some form of action might make them much more loved.
Good to see a reminder of Dhalia's "This grenade launcher is all about misdirection!" aspects, that seems to get forgotten a lot.
Marie's boss form is one of the worse animated "static bosses" in gaming, you can really tell she was a late addition for story reasons. This doesn't make her horrible, but it does make it obvious she'd be much more interesting with some real animations. She's far from her full self, but at least she gets some gameplay representation; That's much more than the losers of these votes will get, at least in the near future.
Surprised with how many normal-looking Body parts Venus is tossing around. Makes me think of One Piece's Nico Robin. Still a bit too similiar to "Double, but with her own moves" for my taste, at least for now. The Bayonette-a-like elements are not easily missed.
Umbrella looks like... I'd expect. Fine with just Parasoul for now, thanks! Too many unique concepts, to overload on anything too similiar.
Captain_Spanky
Member
Black Dhalia and Venus have always been my top picks. Well them and the Dominatrix/School Teach lady (but that's purely because I'm a pervert). Marie looks really interesting too after seeing those pictures.
Ultimadrago
Member
Yeah, Regina has always been confirmed for one of my bottom spots from the get-go along with Leduc, Hive and some others.
Now this character I've gone from disliking to feeling indifferent about. Perhaps his "average man" demeanor has made him less and less offensive to me over time.
CrazyTank940
Member
Before I was just middle of the road about Adam, but after actually thinking about the possibilities for him during the downtime between round 1 and round 2, he moved up to my top spot easily.
Ultimadrago
Member
Oh, there you are! Wanted to show you this picture I found:
Hopefully multiple posters won't get arrogant and burst an eye vessel.
Same. I'm worried that she might end up like Parasoul. The whole "well, she plays better as a rushdown character with some decent projectiles woops. Lets just focus on that instead."
SolarPowered
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Molly ain't a child soldier. I think we'll be fine.
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Edit: All solos need to geeeeeet awaaaaaay from me. They get zoned harder than a nerd at the school prom.
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Parasouls come in many flavors. It depends on who you are fighting and what characters you are using. My Parasoul instantly switches to GTFO zoning mode if I have to fight a Painwheel for example. Same thing could be said about a good Filia. Everyone else I chase like a rabid dog.
Edit: All solos need to geeeeeet awaaaaaay from me. They get zoned harder than a nerd at the school prom.
SolarKnight
Member
Or it could just simply be that those characters were going to be the next ones in line before this donation campaign in the first place so that's why they were done already :v
If we want to talk about his vision, everyone should've voted Umbrella/Dahlia/Marie over everyone else, but apparently only few gave a fuck about that in the first place so why start caring now? :V
Ultimadrago
Member
We need a salt levels chart for each day of the vote.
How high's the salt, mama?
Two feet high and risin'
How high's the salt, papa?
Two feet high and risin'
We can make it to the road in a homemade boat
That's the only thing we got left that'll float
It's already over all the wheat and the oats,
Two feet high and risin'
How high's the salt, mama?
Three feet high and risin'
How high's the salt, papa?
Three feet high and risin'
Well, the hives are gone,
I've lost my bees
The chickens are sleepin'
In the willow trees
Cow's in salt up past her knees,
Three feet high and risin'
How high's the salt, mama?
Four feet high and risin'
How high's the salt, papa?
Four feet high and risin'
Hey, come look through the window pane,
The bus is comin', gonna take us to the train
Looks like we'll be blessed with a little more rain,
4 feet high and risin'
How high's the salt, mama?
Five feet high and risin'
How high's the salt, papa?
Five feet high and risin'
Well, the rails are rusted out north of town
We gotta head for higher ground
We can't come back till the salt comes down,
Five feet high and risin'
Well, it's five feet high and risin'
How high's the salt, mama?
Two feet high and risin'
How high's the salt, papa?
Two feet high and risin'
We can make it to the road in a homemade boat
That's the only thing we got left that'll float
It's already over all the wheat and the oats,
Two feet high and risin'
How high's the salt, mama?
Three feet high and risin'
How high's the salt, papa?
Three feet high and risin'
Well, the hives are gone,
I've lost my bees
The chickens are sleepin'
In the willow trees
Cow's in salt up past her knees,
Three feet high and risin'
How high's the salt, mama?
Four feet high and risin'
How high's the salt, papa?
Four feet high and risin'
Hey, come look through the window pane,
The bus is comin', gonna take us to the train
Looks like we'll be blessed with a little more rain,
4 feet high and risin'
How high's the salt, mama?
Five feet high and risin'
How high's the salt, papa?
Five feet high and risin'
Well, the rails are rusted out north of town
We gotta head for higher ground
We can't come back till the salt comes down,
Five feet high and risin'
Well, it's five feet high and risin'
Ultimadrago
Member
Amazing. You should have posted this alongside and after the first character vote!
SolarKnight
Member
Well, during the top 4 we can probably assume it was something like this at least
I honestly don't care at all what Alex might think or say. The story parts in SG1 are only place holders anyway to fill out the background universe at the start. I only care what MikeZ is doing with the engine and where he's going with the implementation of said characters.
Umbrella sketches confirmed that I want her the most. Dahlia's are pretty badass too.
Venus seems pretty awesome too but I'm never voting for her.
Aside from my personal preferences I'd say either Adam (he is a guy thus he is normal) or Stanley/Brain Drain (the only guys are non-humans).
Venus seems pretty awesome too but I'm never voting for her.
Aeshitecally speaking you wouldn't want another big cyborg.
Aside from my personal preferences I'd say either Adam (he is a guy thus he is normal) or Stanley/Brain Drain (the only guys are non-humans).
DISTRACTING! LoL. I'm perfectly fine with Molly employing Chun Li's Thigh workout tapes during her physical upkeep rituals. Though I have to admit, scaling down that pic, I get a "WOAH WHERE DID ALL THAT COME FROM!" feel, lol.
#TeamGoodGollyMissMolly
(Thanks for the lookin' out!) *Time to rock a Molly Avatar while I can!
I wouldn't be as harsh about it, but I agree in a way; This game / world / story has been released to the public, and it takes on a life of it's own once that happens. I don't feel bad AT ALL for him, in that he's found a dedicated fanbase that WANTS to see more of his world, characters, concepts, etc.
It's probably one of the best problems to have. "Oh No, people pay enough attention to my work, to actually wanna chime in, and care about what direction it goes!" Boo Hoo?
Make the fans happy, and you'll be telling your stories through a mass of constantly selling media, games, books, etc. Stick too close to your non-altering, rigid vision, and you'll trivialize each chance you get.
Mixing the fan and creator visions turns into a much healtier, interesting product. Too much of either, once it's out there, can very easily kill it.
commanderpepper
Member
Venus looks like a nightmare version of Robin.
SolarPowered
Member
Sure I do. Panzerfaust fits the same profile Peacock and Parasoul do for me. I can't see this guy being made in Japan or Asia in general. Dude looks wholly like a product of the West and he does it without looking like another GoW/CoD clone. The guy fights with a Tank on his arm and his 40" pythons are like five times thicker than his legs. It's so proportionally silly that I can't help wanting to see him in motion. I love it because he is almost like something out of a cartoon. That is part of SG's appeal to me. If NRS is modern comics, Tecmo is Ninjas/volleball, Capcom is mainstream and ASW is anime then I'd have to say that Skullgirls is like oldschool cartoon network with it's crazy colorful cast and late night Adult Swim programming. Old Panzer fits in with this crazy crowd like no other. His only male counterpart is a giant walking iron lung. I swear... that sounds like something Brock Samson would whale on.
DiscoShark
Banned
The direction Mike seems to be taking with Parasoul changes going forward is to make her Napalm Shot based zoning slightly worse and her tear game based zoning better. He's trying to give people more incentive to use her manual detonation skill along with actually making use of Tears in some legitimate way.
It's unfortunate because it's clear that the character had a more zoning / trap based gameplay in design that just turned into a pressure / overhead oriented gameplay in actuality. Her Napalm Shots in their current form give very little reason for a person to use anything regarding her tear game or manual detonation skill. Frankly, if you ask me, I think the biggest incentive you could give Parasoul players to actually use Detonation (along with changes that are already being experimented with) is to make detonation a quarter circle motion instead of a charge.
I definitely see where you're coming from though, I can't help but feel the "Parasoul effect" while looking at Dahlia concepts that involve little to nothing to do with the projectile side of her game. This is why I'm waiting for that upcoming Dahlia demo.
Ohhh well.
SolarKnight
Member
Huh, this does sound quite accurate in a way. What would SNK games be?
That crazy drunk uncle at the BBQ.
SolarPowered
Member
Oldschool Anime without the Gundams.
I can sorta see your point. Napalm shot really does most of the grunt work, but I like using tears a lot more than before because they have better placement options. You just can't get Napalm shots to place tears directly above Parasoul or directly on the ground in front of you(well... unless you want to use medium napalm shot for blockstun). It's really useful when fighting against certain characters like Cerebella or Painwheel. They're useless against Filia, though lol. She is in your face way too much.
A manual detonation option would be really cool, but also terrifying if done wrong.
DiscoShark
Banned
Are you pulling my leg here or was this just worded oddly? Are you referring to changing detonation to a non-charge motion?
If not this proves my point exactly, she already has manual detonation. Her charge down-up LK detonates the last tear you placed and MK detonates all tears on the field. There's just 0 reason to use it because doing so disrupts the already too potent HP Napalm Shot based zoning and the act of setting up the tears doesn't give you anything on the field to keep your opponent from getting in.
I hadn't heard about those changes. I remember that I when I first got the game I would try and set up her tear traps to create a sort of obstacle course for the other guy to go through if he wanted get to me, but it would never work out in the end. I'd always just fall back to napalm shot zoning since they were much more quicker and better at stopping the other guy's momentum. I haven't used her short and strong DP since the first week of release.
That's an interesting idea. Make the short and strong versions a motion input and keep the invincible anti-air one as a charge. I think it'd be something worth trying at one of the Salty Cupcake sessions.
After re-reading myself I was kinda harsh about it but yes what I meant to say in few words was pretty much your whole quote. Pretty sure Salty Umbrella was not a direction he wanted it to go.
I would be perfectly happy with switching Big Band, Eliza and the third winner for Umbrella, Dahlia and Marie. (￣ー￣
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