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Dota 2 Beta Thread V: Real Talk Strikes Back [Tutorials]

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Puck is best hero, one of my favorites. Usually do well too (although I've noticed in my more recent Puck games that I do well early and then things get out of my hands).



Nyx ain't broken, he's fine, and I say this getting hunted all game by one as Luna earlier.


I wish I was better @ puck, I just never seem to get the teleport part down the way I intend to.. end up overextending myself and getting into trouble.
 

Hellish

Member
The tri lane got blown out in 2 seconds. I believe I or someone else died in our jungle within 20 seconds. I have been playing since mid march so even since that game there has been big changes in my game. I was not expecting to be a captain where practically no suggestions were made especially when i had 0 idea how anyone played.

Pull up the first one since you are super quick and I am on my phone as I would like to see it as well
 

Anbokr

Bull on a Donut
The tri lane got blown out in 2 seconds. I believe I or someone else died in our jungle within 20 seconds. I have been playing since mid march so even since that game there has been big changes in my game. I was not expecting to be a captain where practically no suggestions were made especially when i had 0 idea how anyone played.

Pull up the first one since you are super quick and I am on my phone and I would like to see it as well

yo we should totally scrim, id like to see how much uve improved dawg hit me up

thuglyfe420 always lookin for more practice #roadtoTI4
 

1.09

Low Tier
The tri lane got blown out in 2 seconds. I believe I or someone else died in our jungle within 20 seconds. I have been playing since mid march so even since that game there has been big changes in my game. I was not expecting to be a captain where practically no suggestions were made especially when i had 0 idea how anyone played.

Pull up the first one since you are super quick and I am on my phone and I would like to see it as well

You asked for captain, was thinking about drow ban/pick, actually picked pa with no synergy. By all means, the gaf ihs are very open, and as milkman has put it, we love to see new faces in our inhouses. If your game has picked up, then maybe you'll feel a little more comfortable in these inhouses? (And not leave the game 17 minutes in)
 

Sanjay

Member
The tri lane got blown out in 2 seconds. I believe I or someone else died in our jungle within 20 seconds. I have been playing since mid march so even since that game there has been big changes in my game. I was not expecting to be a captain where practically no suggestions were made especially when i had 0 idea how anyone played.

Pull up the first one since you are super quick and I am on my phone and I would like to see it as well

Look, you said teams were stacked, they were not stacked, agree to this and then carry on with your current story.
 

Hellish

Member
You asked for captain, was thinking about drow ban/pick, actually picked pa with no synergy. By all means, the gaf ihs are very open, and as milkman has put it, we love to see new faces in our inhouses. If your game has picked up, then maybe you'll feel a little more comfortable in these inhouses? (And not leave the game 17 minutes in)


The KOTL called gg and left 1st. I asked for captain assuming suggestions would be made given I knew no one.
 
This is from Bristleback's page.

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His best vs is undying which makes total sense. But I can't figure out why he would be so bad against Necrolyte.

no really
 

Procarbine

Forever Platinum
Well 109 said it, you asked for captain, got it, and then had no plan. The tri lane blew you out in two seconds because you drafted dual lanes instead and didn't field a tri lane, and we didn't help you draft because when we set up a games with not-top tiers captaining against each other, experienced players try not to give any input to keep the game even. Meaning, 109 and I didn't say anything except "please don't ban or pick drow", and milkman didn't really help Final. You called gg first, and I thought you had left first but since we can't get the replay I suppose we can't resolve this. My point being no one will fault you for not being the best, but playing a game where you asked for captain, got outdrafted, and rage-unfriended everyone on either team isn't going to earn you any friends here.

At least have the decency to own up to it, don't try to make up other excuses.
 

AndyCH

Banned
Puck is best hero, one of my favorites. Usually do well too (although I've noticed in my more recent Puck games that I do well early and then things get out of my hands).



Nyx ain't broken, he's fine, and I say this getting hunted all game by one as Luna earlier.

Yea I noticed that too with my puck games. shame puck cant carry
 

Hylian7

Member
Yea I noticed that too with my puck games. shame puck cant carry

I will never forget the time I outcarried the other team's Sven with Puck though. It was an incredible moment (our team literally had no one with any carrying potential).

Also I need to play more IH's, but won't get to play Dota 2 anymore until Saturday due to moving out of my dorm (finally graduating, woooo).
 

AndyCH

Banned
I will never forget the time I outcarried the other team's Sven with Puck though. It was an incredible moment (our team literally had no one with any carrying potential).

Also I need to play more IH's, but won't get to play Dota 2 anymore until Saturday due to moving out of my dorm (finally graduating, woooo).

Congratulations!
 
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Match in question. Anyone familiar with GAF players can say those teams are reasonably balanced, you just got completely outdrafted and blown out. Which 109 tried to tell you, about as nicely as 109 can manage it.

Final wasn't playing throw dota? You never had a chance.
 

shira

Member
Well. Steam refunded the $150 I put into the Steam Wallet to buy the International 3 tickets. Thank you Gaben.

Anyway, is anyone here going to Seattle? I can't go but I'd still would like some Dota 2 merchandise (and those sweet trading cards). Will pass you the money to buy stuff + shipping :p

Watttttttt! Well glad you didn't book hotels and shit if that is any minor consolation.

DrKirby, mkenyon, et al. will you make swag run for dotagaf?
I'm sure a lot of people would be interested.
 

Anbokr

Bull on a Donut
Well 109 said it, you asked for captain, got it, and then had no plan. The tri lane blew you out in two seconds because you drafted dual lanes instead and didn't field a tri lane, and we didn't help you draft because when we set up a games with not-top tiers captaining against each other, experienced players try not to give any input to keep the game even. Meaning, 109 and I didn't say anything except "please don't ban or pick drow", and milkman didn't really help Final. You called gg first, and I thought you had left first but since we can't get the replay I suppose we can't resolve this. My point being no one will fault you for not being the best, but playing a game where you asked for captain, got outdrafted, and rage-unfriended everyone on either team isn't going to earn you any friends here.

At least have the decency to own up to it, don't try to make up other excuses.

return of reel tawk?
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
I think this is real talk and not reel tawk.
 
Watttttttt! Well glad you didn't book hotels and shit if that is any minor consolation.

DrKirby, mkenyon, et al. will you make swag run for dotagaf?
I'm sure a lot of people would be interested.

I'm up for it if there's a swag run for Dotagaf. God I'm so hyped for the International.
 

Artanisix

Member
The KOTL called gg and left 1st. I asked for captain assuming suggestions would be made given I knew no one.

I just don't know why you deleted me off of friends after losing one inhouse?? I didn't even do anything :*(

The teams weren't even stacked in anyone's favor really. In fact they were probably stacked more towards radiant, you guys just had silly lanes and picks and that lead to total domination by our sexy Tuskar / TA / Disruptor lane.
 

Hylian7

Member
Next time I play in an IH, I want to try drafting. I'm sure I'll get outdrafted horribly, but I want to work on my drafting skills regardless.
 

The Technomancer

card-carrying scientician
So can someone give me some good tips for what to look for when constructing a team for a trilane? I know you want someone who benefits from offlane solo, but I'm not sure what synergies I should be looking for in the trilane itself and/or which heroes do well splitting experience three ways
 

KScorp

Member
Lol what the fuck.

Only reason it worked out so well was because Milk was in charge of it, really. Game is much easier when at least one person communicates.

Also, that painful Nightstalker game I had during that same IH session motivated me to start practicing with mid heroes. I play mainly support heroes and occasionally carries because I have really bad game sense, maybe practicing with aggressive gankers will help improve that.
 

Clawww

Member
Only reason it worked out so well was because Milk was in charge of it, really. Game is much easier when at least one person communicates.

Also, that painful Nightstalker game I had during that same IH session motivated me to start practicing with mid heroes. I play mainly support heroes and occasionally carries because I have really bad game sense, maybe practicing with aggressive gankers will help improve that.

Grinding some Nightstalker really helped me improve.
 

Sliver

Member
I am always down for in house games, though I still feel I'm still not skilled enough to play in most. Never really game any a try though.
 

Dahbomb

Member
So how do I get in on this inhouse league?
Friend everyone in the NeoGAF channel, play regularly at nights preferably with other GAFs, get on GAF Mumble and maybe you will get lucky. Truth be told whenever I have free time there isn't really an IH up and I just play with some Gaffers which is always fun. Whenever there's an IH up I am not free myself. I guess its for the better, I don't have Mumble or even a damn microphone to communicate with.

There honestly should be some sort of a schedule or prior notice to these IHs. And there should be more than 1 going on at a time.
 

KScorp

Member
So how do I get in on this inhouse league?

Someone will probably post in this thread that an IH game is up. You can also join the GAF Dota 2 steam group, someone will likely post an announcement. Finally the NeoGAF chat room will have people saying that an IH is up as well. Just enter "neogaf" as the password and you'll find the lobby if it's up.

It's not really a league, anyone is free to join in and play. No minimum skill level, just warn the players if you're new and the teams will be balanced accordingly. And don't get mad if you're offered advice/critisism. I get a lot of it from 1.09, and rightfully so, haha.
 
So can someone give me some good tips for what to look for when constructing a team for a trilane? I know you want someone who benefits from offlane solo, but I'm not sure what synergies I should be looking for in the trilane itself and/or which heroes do well splitting experience three ways
-Pick heroes with strong cc spells
-Pick a farmer
-Have at least one easy to land set up spell
-No more than one melee
-Make sure your tri-lane has a goal and succeeding at that goal should help you win the game
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
Maybe over the summer, when we have more time to play.

I think trilanes can be generally split into three types with a fourth pseudo type.

Offensive:
Usually a setup that tries to go for kills or to bully the other side out of exp/gold range. Here you have heroes like VS, Veno, Lina, Io, Sven, Tiny, CK, along with some combos like CC hero + Juggernaut or CC hero + Ancient Apparition.

Defensive:
A ricing setup. You want heroes that can really babysit your (usually) hard carry. Though you'll want disables/slows as well, the way you use them is different, and you'll often want a lot of harass. The poster child of defensive lanes is KOTL + PL. UD, Omni, Dazzle, Tree (theoretically), Void, AM all work well here.

Flexible:
A trilane that is a good mix of offensive and defensive capabilities. The key point of this is that it doesn't have to be a trilane at all, and that you can bugger off to roam or go support safe lane/mid if you need to. Most Offensive trilanes are also Flexible ones by nature of being disable heavy.

Dual Lane + Jungle:
This is when your Jungle occasionally pops in to fuck up your enemies. Not really a trilane in the normal sense but can be really effective if your opponents aren't prepared for SUDDENLY ANCIENT CREEPS/BATTLE HUNGER/ION SHELL.

Honorable Mention - Nature's Prophet Trilane:
When every 2v2 is actually a 2v3.
 

Artanisix

Member
So how do I get in on this inhouse league?

Someone will probably post in this thread that an IH game is up. You can also join the GAF Dota 2 steam group, someone will likely post an announcement. Finally the NeoGAF chat room will have people saying that an IH is up as well. Just enter "neogaf" as the password and you'll find the lobby if it's up.

It's not really a league, anyone is free to join in and play. No minimum skill level, just warn the players if you're new and the teams will be balanced accordingly. And don't get mad if you're offered advice/critisism. I get a lot of it from 1.09, and rightfully so, haha.

This pretty much. We typically do inhouses on Thurs/Fri/Sat/Sun at American night, because those are the days most people aren't busy.
 

Gxgear

Member
Someone will probably post in this thread that an IH game is up. You can also join the GAF Dota 2 steam group, someone will likely post an announcement. Finally the NeoGAF chat room will have people saying that an IH is up as well. Just enter "neogaf" as the password and you'll find the lobby if it's up.

It's not really a league, anyone is free to join in and play. No minimum skill level, just warn the players if you're new and the teams will be balanced accordingly. And don't get mad if you're offered advice/critisism. I get a lot of it from 1.09, and rightfully so, haha.

Alright thanks, I've been in the chat channel and played a few with GAFs.
 
Did a clean install of windows and played a couple games, and my packet loss issue seems to be gone, thank fucking god.

Now I just need to make up for all those undeserved losses.... I almost dropped back to an even 50%!
 

Drkirby

Corporate Apologist
CM is great in most duel lanes if the second person has any sort of aggressive spell. At level 2, she does 240 Magic Damage, has a 1.5 Second stun, and a 3.5 second slow. Pairing her with Sven, CK, Skeleton King, just any carry who has a stun often works out really well.

Also, she can get a decent amount of extra income by freezing some Medium/Hard camp, her Frostbite will do 700 damage to creeps.
 

Wok

Member
I still don't have a battle bonus in my inventory. I have contacted Steam support.

The only reason I can think of is I have bought the Compendium through the Steam Market instead of the store.
 

Drkirby

Corporate Apologist
I still don't have a battle bonus in my inventory. I have contacted Steam support.

The only reason I can think of is I have bought the Compendium through the Steam Market instead of the store.

Very likely. How long ago did you buy the Compendium? Was it before or after the Battle Bonus came out? Because after the Battle Bonus came out, Valve put bundle that came with the Compendium and Battle Bonus, and it is possible to only get one and not the other.
 

Wok

Member
Very likely. How long ago did you buy the Compendium? Was it before or after the Battle Bonus came out? Because after the Battle Bonus came out, Valve put bundle that came with the Compendium and Battle Bonus, and it is possible to only get one and not the other.

I bought it yesterday, after it was mentioned in this thread.


I will be monitoring the market then. There is already an inconsistency: either the six-day bonus should be cheaper, or the 95-day bonus should be more expensive.
 
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