lmao.
Next Xbox Reveal Set For May 21, 10:00 A.M. PST, Livestreamed
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dragonelite
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Sorry but move and kinect arent creators tools if you ask me and probably work even shittier then touchscreens.
yep; but background patching only becomes desirable because the patching process on PSN takes so long.
Maybe they will take the netflix approach but with 30% of the money going to MS and the rest going to devs based on time played
You are subscribed to the service and have unlimited access to all games on the platform, so instead of PSN+ incentive to remain subscribed, you are subscribed at will and the longer the gen goes on, the more content is available to you
Something around $15-20 a month would make sense IMO
Benefits: much greater subscriber base, value, likely higher achievable spend, can transition to streaming, more balanced revenue relative to retail (seasonal peaks and slumps)
Cons: no ownership, bandwidth intensive, potential revenue erosion for heavy users
They can layer this with other services (like video/music) to make it truly competitive with other multimedia platforms
Baconsammy
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Yep. If patching wasn't so atrocious, they wouldn't have to monetize it like this.
The least interesting part of PSN+ is the game rentals. If it was a game I was interested in playing, I bought or rented it when it came out. Discounts are what it's about mainly.
Seriously. How could you not be hyped for this!?
Lol. The gif proves how GAF gives Sony passes that they skewer MS for.
GAF would have gone absolutely APE had this was RARE's reveal demonstration for this exact game for Kinect.
That's the phone that I'm posting from!
It's not about "what else besides the free games?" because the games are awesome. But you also get good deals on digital games, auto patching and updates and I think you can get into some demos/betas better. But when Sony has pretty much the functionality of XBLGold for FREE and the option to pay to get PS+ the value of XBLG is close to nil.
Bleedorang3
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Baconsammy
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It's also always handled patching and updating infinitely better than the competition. I can count on zero hands how many times I had to wait 30+ minutes for a game to update so I could play it on 360.
That's the phone that I'm posting from!
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Currently shopping for a new phone (finally got off the iOS train). Does Xbox Music on the phone work like on PC or is a subscription required even for streaming with commercials?
I kind of agree. I mean; I know that Rare has "fallen from grace" (so to speak); but it wasn't that long ago that they put out the Viva Pinata games; and aren't those generally considered quality titles? I realize that their Kinect based games turn people off; but I do think that they will have a really solid durango launch title (Kinect 2.0 or not).
Lots of Bender gifs would fill the thread.
Xenon
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The difference is the precision of Move vs Kinect. You can not do that without 1:1 controls.
Sylonious
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Everyone should tweet epic and let them now they better be there
with their elemental demo on May 21st. I will be disappointed if somehow
Mark Rein fails to have the UE4 engine up and running on the 720.
And seriously has MS ever waited this long to promote a new console?
Makes me wonder why we've been in the dark so long.
with their elemental demo on May 21st. I will be disappointed if somehow
Mark Rein fails to have the UE4 engine up and running on the 720.
And seriously has MS ever waited this long to promote a new console?
Makes me wonder why we've been in the dark so long.
No idea. I keep a huge chunk of my music library on my phone so I've never delved into it.
Ummmm, a lot of GAF didn't like that tech demo. Confirmation bias much?
XtremeXpider
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What makes me wonder is how are they keeping the secrets.
Wouldn't EPIC just lazily copy pasta the PS4 demo to save time?
Last time? I believe this is pretty close to the 360 reveal schedule, no?
Look up 360 reveal to release...this mirrors it exactly assuming a holidayish launch.
I hope we don't see anything like what Square did at the PS4 event. I thought that was insulting to the audience and Sony in general. Not only did they just show off a year old demo again, but then they say "hey there's going to be a final fantasy" without a teaser or anything at all. Embarrassing.
XtremeXpider
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Infiltrator demo? I don't know if it is possible at 1.2TFlops.
Agree 100%. I want new content...not been there done that.
I'm thinking they'll officially show off UE4 and what it can do, when they reveal thier new game. It's how they blew people away with UE3 what with the Gears demonstration.
CrunchinJelly
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How would you find out?
I am curious why you would think they have changed. Sony did a good job of introducing their console...but nothing that blew anyone (outside of gaf) away.
Why do they have to reveal their console just because of the rumors surrounding its existence? They are not waiting for anything. They knew about when they were going to reveal it and have stuck to a timeline.
Revealing the Infinite just because Sony revealed PS4 would just lead to a lackluster conference put together at the last second. I don't understand why people cannot just be patient.
Agree I couldn't believe SE would be cheeky enough to come on and waste everybody's time by showing that again. But it's also the problem when your show runs close to 2 hours a lot of filler
In excess.
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Baconsammy
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Agreed, but then again I also found the Capcom thing useless (slapping a fake UI on a fake game). Media Molecule bit was useless. Destiny bit was useless. Blizzard bit was useless. Sony had a great 1 hour show. Unfortunately it took 2 hours to do it. I have a feeling Microsoft will have a lot of moments I find useless too, and unfortunately they'll cram it all into an hour, meaning I'll probably get 10-15 minutes of stuff I'm interested in. Perhaps I'm just too hard to please or have unrealistic expectations.
Oppo
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Mostly I'd agree, although the 4 megabyte limit sure helped with that on 360. That has caused some issues for devs trying to patch in a lot of content (Burnout Paradise had a separate download on 360, didn't it?)
Anyways it works well on PS3 after they fixed it for PS+, and Vita is pretty good too. I'm not anticipating nearly the patching issues on either that we saw on early PS3.
Gears really had a bad showing
The UE3 demo (with gears set pieces and characters) looked amazing but gears itself? Even at Xbox reveal it was reallllllly meh
The E3 demo in 2006 is what made the game look great (first level demo)
Fuck that, show me your new game or at least gameplay of Fortnight. I don't want to see Elemental demo for the 900th time when I know it's going to still work without a significant difference in performance on Durango than it does on PS4.
Xbox officially announced that they will be at Gamescom.
http://majornelson.com/2013/05/09/yes-xbox-will-be-at-gamescom-this-year/
I wonder if they will save some announcements for Gamescom.
http://majornelson.com/2013/05/09/yes-xbox-will-be-at-gamescom-this-year/
I wonder if they will save some announcements for Gamescom.
CrunchinJelly
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They don't really make much sense when you're shipping a thing in six months, either. They were used back in the day because there were straight-up no games ready to be shown.
Karak
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Correct. Games and the Rock as a presenter.
Interesting, Gamescom will be important this year as it will be the last western event for a conference. So I am sure both Sony and MS want to save some announcements at Gamescom. Lets say MS has a great E3 conference and Sonys is average. Then at Gamescom MS conference is terrible and Sony's is amazing, PS4 then would look more appealing as people would remember the last good announcements for it. Remember Sony has made quite a few decent announcements at Gamescom.
Yup, I'm just imagining all those positive after positive bit of news/headlines for the PS4.
Sylonious
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We will see just how well they kept those secrets on May 21st. I'm guessing that they didn't keep them very well at all.
I don't think so. How could they do that when the Xbox runs on D3D 11.D and the PS4 is running on a customized open CL/GL api? Plus, the Xbox has the ESRAM and is designed to take advantage of "low latency" and the PS4 isn't.
Well, according to some Xbox "enthusiasts" (random fanboys) that I've spoken to the Xbox should perform significantly better at lower clock speeds due to "low latency" and advanced rendering techniques patented by Microsoft. If Xbox Elemental isn't there (or at least at E3 a couple weeks later) then I will assume that their "efficiency" gains were heavily exaggerated.
That's a bit silly. It's a good way to measure performance on the console.
I used Google to go back to April, 2005 and they were still talking about rumors in late April. So you are right.
Lol. Do you honestly believe someone would actually pull out the bender gif?
Yeah, the demo being displayed through a compressed internet video is totally the way to "measure" performance.
I promise you, we will see it in the stream thread before the event even started.
Your first mistake was taking any fanboy seriously.
CrunchinJelly
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Have there even been any hints that AW2 might be happening?
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