Next Xbox Reveal Set For May 21, 10:00 A.M. PST, Livestreamed

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yea, like 3 people on earth.

I know you are just joking statham, but for those who would say that in seriousness (there are those people) then I'd say look towards all of the people who buy Gears and Halo, or even all the people who buy the CoDs on the Xbox because that's the place to be for that series.

I know it's crazy for some people to think outside their narrow-minded bubble, but there are waaaaaaay more people than you, who like different things then you. There are a lot of people who like video games just as much, but for different reasons. They might enjoy stuff like Gears or Halo more than Mario or Uncharted, but I don't see how that invalidates their "Hardcore Gamer" card more than anyone else.

Once again, not towards you statham.

Competent specs, a physical controller, and a camera/microphone array. Pretty much the same as Sony showed. Content will either differentiate the two, or ensure that we have HD twins again (yawn).

Not sure if that'll be the case with 3rd party exclusives like Respawn's game, but we'll see.

I like Microsoft products, what's wrong with this?

In real life? Nothing. On here? Well, it's just not a popular opinion. People seem to forget that all consoles have hardware issues and that Microsoft still only has the Halo franchise and nothing else.
 
OurColony was great, gamers communities collaborating.

I'm gutted in a way that MS haven't followed this campaign up for this coming generation. It was great being part of that. I genuinely hope that it isn't an indicator of a complete change in focus at Redmond and that they are going to blow everyone away on the 21st.
 
I like Microsoft products, what's wrong with this?

nothing is wrong with it. I have a lumia 920 and surface rt and roll with a win7 laptop for school.

Doesn't mean fans can't be critical or have distrust for them.

Based on their actions in video games since about 09-10, I personally speaking on my own behalf, just don't see them going all out on hardware....I seem them having a console that is $300-$350 to manufacture, packed in with Kinect adds an additional $50-$100, putting total price at $400, then selling it at $499 to make a $50 - $100 profit.

It's exactly what they did with the surface rt. Lot of people hate it, but I think it's a great consumption device and far more prefer it to the ipad, but it definitely is not worth the price tag the thing has.
 
Nope, it was mentioned once, so now it's in the "concrete, 100% true Microsoft is going to do this" pile

You seem a bit bored of the fanboy shit, I understand that so why give them an audience . I've seen it elsewhere, if people don't reply they soon stop doing it or end up fucking off.
 
I wish MS and Sega( of the past) would join forces.

MS couldn't secure a single Yakuza game this yen. Their relationship with Japan in general needs to be addressed.

Are they still interested or not? I don't want another half assed effort that get shoved halfway through the gen because Mr Don Mattrick is not happy spending money to get more games.
 
You seem a bit bored of the fanboy shit, I understand that so why give them an audience . I've seen it elsewhere, if people don't reply they soon stop doing it or end up fucking off.

I generally do. It seems I spend most of my time here on the gaming side replying to those who are confused by fanboy crap and calling out a few select fanboys who I enjoy messing with.
 
Bkilian, a former MS audio engineer who worked on Durango confirmed it on B3D.

That's crazy because I remember seeing him say that he didn't like to go into hardware/software specifics because of his NDA, even though he no longer works there. I know he had issues with their corporate culture but i must have missed him confirming this tidbit. Anyway, thanks for the answer.
 
No bias it is just Microsoft has lost the trust of the hardcore.

Hardcores trust Sony more? Sony Move - a complete failure. Sony Vita - a complete failure. I think theres a a shitload of problems still burried within the core of Sony. Maybe if they keep selling buildings you guys will continue to feel better about their financials also eh? But youre out of your mind if you think you represent this voice for all hardcore games. Maybe Sony Gaf will go with enjoy your slant, but the rest of the gaming world thinks very differenntly. Move, Vita, both shoot down your point. PS4 has one hell of a battle up ahead.
 
I really hope microsoft doesn't focus too much on services that will never be seen outside the US. I feel that If you live anywhere outside the US it's just better to be a PS3 owner like comparing EU PS+ and the US version, we get the better games usually and we get more TV services as well compared to Xbox. We also still don't have access to the Indie games store which is totally baffling.

At the start of this gen I was primarily an xbox player, but as time went on I couldn't see what I was getting with my Gold subscription so slowly migrated to buying all multiplatform games on the PS3. I still have a Gld sub but the only game I played for the past year on Xbox has been Fifa and that's only to play with a family member who only has an Xbox but I also have the PS3 version.

I really hope they focus on more international users.
 
I own all current gen consoles and will own all next gen consoles and generally consider myself "hardcore". With that said, the amount of "Sony can do no wrong, Microsoft is the devil" garbage that goes on around here is ridiculous. Every MS thread is filled with "Kinect, Kinect, Kinect" gifs and replies while Sony's Move is completely forgotten for the simple fact that it was a failure.

Posts like these shows your projecting your own biases more than anything.

It's like a sports fan thinking the refs are biased against their favorite team because of bad calls. When in reality those bad calls happen all the time to every other team in the league, but since they're not emotionally attached to the other teams, they don't notice or care.
 
nothing is wrong with it. I have a lumia 920 and surface rt and roll with a win7 laptop for school.

Doesn't mean fans can't be critical or have distrust for them.

Based on their actions in video games since about 09-10, I personally speaking on my own behalf, just don't see them going all out on hardware....I seem them having a console that is $300 to manufacture, packed in with Kinect adds an additional $50-$100, putting total price at $400, then selling it at $499 to make a $100 profit.

It's exactly what they did with the surface rt. Lot of people hate it, but I think it's a great consumption device and far more prefer it to the ipad, but it definitely is not worth the price tag the thing has.

There's nothing wrong with being critical about a company or product, but when it gets to the point where people make stupid pictures and everyone piles on like some sort of schoolyard high-five-fest, it gets really fucking annoying and shitty to go into any Xbox related thread because you can already see the awful posts being quickly typed up:

-RROD it's awful! Microsoft gonna' screw it up again! It'll burn down your house!
-Xbox Live Gold is robbery! Call me when they don't charge for multplayer!
-Microsoft has no games except Halo!
-Kinect is so dumb because I dislike it!

These are the horrible, awful posts you see strewn about any thread involving the Xbox (and usually Microsoft) stuff, even when they're not relevant to the topic at all. Instead of people commenting about how cool or stupid the name "Infinity" is in that thread, they're just making dumb pictures with dozens upon dozens of worthless "sick lol" "cold lol" posts that add nothing at all.

Not to mention that these points aren't always as completely black and white as people make them out to be. The 360 has had bad hardware problems but so has a lot of other consoles, and Microsoft has seemingly fixed most of their problems with the Slim. Xbox Live has way faster download speeds, cross-game chat, and stabler infrastructure stuff compared to PSN. Kinect is something that a lot of people have bought and enjoyed, even people who would consider themselves hardcore gamers. Once again, if people don't like this stuff than that's fine, but don't tell me people don't go out of their way to keep harping on it in every single Xbox-related thread because it's there.

People like you who are critical yet reasonable and fairly objective aren't the problem, it's the people (you know who, they post in this thread) that go out of their way to keep harping on the same (sometimes unrelated) shit to keep a negative aura about the thread when people are just trying to talk about what they want to see or expect about the event. Thankfully this thread has cooled down since most people get it out of their system earlier on, but it still happens.
 
Posts like these shows your projecting your own biases more than anything.

It's like a sports fan thinking the refs are biased against their favorite team because of bad calls. When in reality those bad calls happen all the time to every other team in the league, but since they're not emotionally attached to the other teams, they don't notice or care.
Sacramento Kings and Oakland Raiders do get a lot of bad calls tho.
 
There's nothing wrong with being critical about a company or product, but when it gets to the point where people make stupid pictures and everyone piles on like some sort of schoolyard high-five-fest, it gets really fucking annoying and shitty to go into any Xbox related thread because you can already see the awful posts being quickly typed up:

-RROD it's awful! Microsoft gonna' screw it up again! It'll burn down your house!
-Xbox Live Gold is robbery! Call me when they don't charge for multplayer!
-Microsoft has no games except Halo!
-Kinect is so dumb because I dislike it!

These are the horrible, awful posts you see strewn about any thread involving the Xbox (and usually Microsoft) stuff, even when they're not relevant to the topic at all. Instead of people commenting about how cool or stupid the name "Infinity" is in that thread, they're just making dumb pictures with dozens upon dozens of worthless "sick lol" "cold lol" posts that add nothing at all.

Not to mention that these points aren't always as completely black and white as people make them out to be. The 360 has had bad hardware problems but so has a lot of other consoles, and Microsoft has seemingly fixed most of their problems with the Slim. Xbox Live has way faster download speeds, cross-game chat, and stabler infrastructure stuff compared to PSN. Kinect is something that a lot of people have bought and enjoyed, even people who would consider themselves hardcore gamers. Once again, if people don't like this stuff than that's fine, but don't tell me people don't go out of their way to keep harping on it in every single Xbox-related thread because it's there.

People like you who are critical yet reasonable and fairly objective aren't the problem, it's the people (you know who, they post in this thread) that go out of their way to keep harping on the same (sometimes unrelated) shit to keep a negative aura about the thread when people are just trying to talk about what they want to see or expect about the event. Thankfully this thread has cooled down since most people get it out of their system earlier on, but it still happens.

Relax, they're just being critical by using humor. If Microsoft delivers, all will be forgotten.
 
Posts like these shows your projecting your own biases more than anything.

It's like a sports fan thinking the refs are biased against their favorite team because of bad calls. When in reality those bad calls happen all the time to every other team in the league, but since they're not emotionally attached to the other teams, they don't notice or care.

Pointing out a direct contradiction is "projecting my own biases"? Yep, it's time to leave this thread for a while
 
Relax, they're just being critical by using humor. If Microsoft delivers, all will be forgotten.

I'm not upset (sorry if it came off that way), but I see what you're saying. The pictures may be one thing, but the posts with just a quote of it and a two word response adds nothing to those threads at all. I still don't see how those pictures are on topic in a thread about the name of the console though.
 
I'm not upset (sorry if it came off that way), but I see what you're saying. The pictures may be one thing, but the posts with just a quote of it and a two word response adds nothing to those threads at all. I still don't see how those pictures are on topic in a thread about the name of the console though.

Responses are just acknowledgement of the truth and positive feedback if the picture was genuinely funny. I don't necessarily agree with that Xbox Infinity pic with the "infinite Halo, limited warranty" subtitle, but I still laughed.
 
There's nothing wrong with being critical about a company or product, but when it gets to the point where people make stupid pictures and everyone piles on like some sort of schoolyard high-five-fest, it gets really fucking annoying and shitty to go into any Xbox related thread because you can already see the awful posts being quickly typed up:

-RROD it's awful! Microsoft gonna' screw it up again! It'll burn down your house!
-Xbox Live Gold is robbery! Call me when they don't charge for multplayer!
-Microsoft has no games except Halo!
-Kinect is so dumb because I dislike it!

These are the horrible, awful posts you see strewn about any thread involving the Xbox (and usually Microsoft) stuff, even when they're not relevant to the topic at all. Instead of people commenting about how cool or stupid the name "Infinity" is in that thread, they're just making dumb pictures with dozens upon dozens of worthless "sick lol" "cold lol" posts that add nothing at all.

Not to mention that these points aren't always as completely black and white as people make them out to be. The 360 has had bad hardware problems but so has a lot of other consoles, and Microsoft has seemingly fixed most of their problems with the Slim. Xbox Live has way faster download speeds, cross-game chat, and stabler infrastructure stuff compared to PSN. Kinect is something that a lot of people have bought and enjoyed, even people who would consider themselves hardcore gamers. Once again, if people don't like this stuff than that's fine, but don't tell me people don't go out of their way to keep harping on it in every single Xbox-related thread because it's there.

People like you who are critical yet reasonable and fairly objective aren't the problem, it's the people (you know who, they post in this thread) that go out of their way to keep harping on the same (sometimes unrelated) shit to keep a negative aura about the thread when people are just trying to talk about what they want to see or expect about the event. Thankfully this thread has cooled down since most people get it out of their system earlier on, but it still happens.


Sadly, you are right.
 
Responses are just acknowledgement of the truth and positive feedback if the picture was genuinely funny. I don't necessarily agree with that Xbox Infinity pic with the "infinite Halo, limited warranty" subtitle, but I still laughed.

I still think it adds nothing, but hey that's just my opinion. Different strokes.

Are you fuckers hyped?! 11 days bitches!

Hell yeah! Thankfully next week is going to be jam-packed with stuff so time shouldn't feel at a total standstill. The beginning of the week-of is going to be a slog though.
 
Are you fuckers hyped?! 11 days bitches!
My body. It's ready.

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That's crazy because I remember seeing him say that he didn't like to go into hardware/software specifics because of his NDA, even though he no longer works there. I know he had issues with their corporate culture but i must have missed him confirming this tidbit. Anyway, thanks for the answer.

This is his post from yesterday http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1732877&postcount=2295.
I would really like to know where he confirmed anything.
 
Is anyone expecting Microsoft to throw a wrench in the hardware setup, breaking the HD Twins curse?
You've been talking about this pretty often. Are you privy to some info that you just dont want to spill or are you just speculating about it a lot?
 
You've been talking about this pretty often. Are you privy to some info that you just dont want to spill or are you just speculating about it a lot?

Something just smells fishy.

I've seen several people saying things like this lately. What does the HD Twins curse even mean?

A gen where both systems are essentially the same, they differentiate with software and services. Very boring IMO.
 
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