Injustice got moneyhatted into EVO and there was a Marvel glitch involving snapbacks found where you can have 2 point characters, with a bunch of caveats. Also a glitch where Haggar bodies the game.
Fighting Games Weekly | May 13-19 | Throwing coins
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He wasn't that execution heavy, most of the character's difficulty comes from Bold cancel stuff which is still in tact. He is still not an easy character to play.
The execution barrier didn't balance him at all in Vanilla. You could do day 1 combos with Dante and still kill with meter positive. There was no thought required in mashing QCF + L in the air and also calling invincible assist to cover your slow normals assist. In fact lowering his damage and removing Hammer invincibility promoted thoughtful and skillful Dante play because now you have to do optimized combos, have better hit confirms and have a better neutral game utilizing a wider range of his moves.
CEOJebailey
Neo Member
It's looking pretty low for CEO as well not just ECT and other places. MK interest has nearly completely died since Injustice has come out since it's most of the same players. Nobody can fault any organizer for making it a side game or not focusing it as much when Injustice is nearly tripling the number of registered for it.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
A shame for MK. EVO will just be a send off I suppose.
Well let me rephrase. My issue wasn't his moves getting nerfed. It was making his imputs easier. I just didnt like a character that has so many options becoming more user friendly. I didnt care about the hammer nerf..the only thing that bugged me was his normals getting a couple extra frames..which ended up not being a big deal. I still use him but he just feels much less interesting if that makes any sense?
toddhunter
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A semi Madcatz sponsored dance off going on right now
http://www.twitch.tv/ladiesoflt3/old
Well LT3 girls with one in a madcatz shirt anyway... Worth a look.
http://www.twitch.tv/ladiesoflt3/old
Well LT3 girls with one in a madcatz shirt anyway... Worth a look.
Kreygasm.
Karsticles
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*HUG* I love that you are supporting my one suggested nerf.
I wish he could cancel Bold immediately. I had an idea once to go into Devil Trigger and spam Vortex by using Bold to get off the ground. No go. :-(
Drive also has a hitbox behind it and catches teleporters, so it has some special utility (or so I read).
And I am saying Dante is actually harder to win with now as compared to before and thus is a more interesting character because he has less derpy stuff.
Vanilla Iron Man wasn't really a more interesting character because you had to do Rekkas to access his Repulsar Spread, it was an inconvenience rather than an execution barrier. His hit confirms and movement was the challenge in the character.
Nah, but I did mention before that it'd be cool if Microsoft would pimp the big events on the dashboard like they did for the presidential debates.
toddhunter
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Boo this man
Gold only, US only and only top 300 channels? What is there to say? Twitch and Microsoft made another garbage app, well done to them.
I disagree. He still has basically the same opening opportunities except now its much easier to do combos that were at least semi challenging before. Considering the context of the game we're talking about that goes a long way.
ipitydatfu
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that is one thirsty ass stream
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that is one thirsty ass stream
I'd gladly give up bold block to be able to cancel Bold Move once he jumps.
It'd be a stealth buff!
And above! It hits Strider out of his teleports all the time, even though it looks like it should miss.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
The edited version of this song sounds so weird
How am I supposed to do the last two if I can't do the first 4?
How am I supposed to do the last two if I can't do the first 4?
Karsticles
Member
Indeed, on all accounts.
Professor Beef
Banned
You're lucky I'm too tired from helping my uncle build a fence today. I got nothing.
Don't want this to get buried on the last page.
Somehow we have to get the Corporation music playing for Mr. Wizard as he walks onstage somewhere.
Passive Assassin
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Dance games are hard as hell.
SolarPowered
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CEOJebailey
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I did a Quick "JeView" of the Twitch App for XBOX earlier today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAf9W0OpZ7o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAf9W0OpZ7o
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Someone make this essay go away
Not having an invincible special move he can throw out willy nilly is the big difference. That's what got him a lot of hits, he would beat out your move with his.
Who cares about easier combos? Dante's combo were never prohibitively difficult nor are they brain dead Fisher price combos now . They are easier to do in certain parts but not to the point where the character as a whole is easier to play.. not by a long shot. Combos are just a fraction of what it takes to play a character.
OP updated with CafeID Tekken 5v5 and FGTV Weekly on hiatus.
Don't see myself using it, even if it does get those features though.
This seems really half-assed and lacking so many basic features.
Don't see myself using it, even if it does get those features though.
Karsticles
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What essay?
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Oh, school stuff. I guess that could be interpreted as someone's long post I was complaining about but I didn't mean it that way lol.
Karsticles
Member
Want to pay me to write it for you? ;-)
It's okay, it gets confusing sometimes with having two Marvel OTs and all.
toddhunter
Member
Thanks for that, looks about what I expected. No way I'm ever going to really use this.
Mind you I don't subscribe to xbox live, or live in the US, or for that matter currently own an Xbox.
Lost Fragment
Obsessed with 4chan
Everyone cares about easier combos. Is that not how you get damage? The more variables are involved the easier it is to fuck it up?
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
Hammer still has invincibility, wtf is everyone talkin about
they just cut it to just the start up , in line with almost every invincible special in history of fighting games
they just cut it to just the start up , in line with almost every invincible special in history of fighting games
@8wayrun
I will still be streaming the Break Weekly, don't worry. You guys at the break are my family.
It'd usually be up by now though. Jaxel is always super early and stuff.
You can get big damage from easy combos or from DHCs (Spiral Swords) or with XF/meter. Your toolset is way more important than how difficult your combos are.
Awww, I love you too Jaxel
Uh a lot of specials have invincibility after startup vulnerability (incredibly stupid, but they're there).
Yea yea we know about the invincibility change. The change was still drastic given how much stuff you were allowed to get away with it. Dante players would trade easier combos for fully invincible Vanilla Hammer without a thought.
And apparently Injustice sold 400K in US. Very solid numbers.
And apparently Injustice sold 400K in US. Very solid numbers.
Parallax Scroll
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the break http://www.twitch.tv/8wayrun
scytheavatar
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Try telling that to the ones who think vanilla Wolvie and Phoenix are the worst derps in fighting game history. Vanilla Dante had always been relatively fair compared to those 2, vanilla Wesker and vanilla Magneto. He's popular but the amount of vanilla Dante players who stood out and were highly successful with him could be counted in one finger (PR Rog, Josh Wong, Richard N, maybe Yipes). Even in vanilla he has always been strong but the amount of cheap, ridiculously unfair things he has pales in comparision to others. The invincible hammer is probably about it, the hitboxes of his normals is derp too but it's balanced by how slow they are.
While in UMvC3 they had nerfed the Hammer, his damage and the Hitboxes, with those nerfs he's about as fair as you can get. Which in MvC terms makes him pretty mid-low tier if not for his value as a team character.
Lazy vs Crazy
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These fools are using capcom style inputs on injustice.
scytheavatar
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MK9 sold 900k in its first NPD, so 400k is a lot less impressive than you think.
CEOJebailey
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CEOJebailey
Neo Member
I'll get you back for killing my 13 win streak lol. Aquaman is my worst matchup til I learn it. GG