I honestly didn't mean to spin anything, sorry if it came off that way.
I kind of get where you're coming from, but I can't agree with the premise that all exclusives are somehow equal.
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Dark_AnNiaLatOr
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You better be strapped on tight with some snacks in hand, cause it ain't gonna stop, until the train derailment because it went too fast at the moment the nextbox is revealed.
njean777
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Kinect voice bringing the future, no not really, it doesnt work well and is not better then a controller or remote. And bing? When you have to result to search on your xbox something is wrong with the UI. I shouldn't have to result to search to find something. The only time it is acceptable is when I am in the store, other then that I should never have to use it. The only thing MS did for consoles was bring online gaming to the forefront, oh and Halo. I am still excited for the Xbox but to say that those two things are important are really crazy to me.
They usually have seen a bunch of stuff they can't talk about. Listen to some of their podcasts and you'll get a basic idea.
EDIT: But related to the console, they don't know shit other than the same rumors we know.
Alaskanbullworm
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Bill Gates is Iron Man
XtremeXpider
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Bill Gates is Iron Man
:Lol Thor and the widow
China Dont Care
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What you're saying makes no senses. MS makes first party exclusives to attract gamers to their platform, why would they port those games to the PC?
A PC-like architecture makes no difference.
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Nice detail on the arc reactor replacement. lol
Monumental
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Spoken like someone who hasn't used a 360 at all and has no idea what they're talking about.
Like seriously, you obviously don't know how the Search works. And you have to be freakin clueless to not see that the ENTIRE entertainment industry (TV Manufacturers, Cable companies, DVR Companies) is moving towards a voice recognition system for home products, especially in the living room. Somethings might not be there yet, but that's why I said that its a move that's forward-thinking.
I think that was two separate statements. "I want faster ports" and "It bugs me when consoles with good tech get exclusives"
Voice reco is cool. And I don't think anyone was saying they'd be using Bing to search the menus?
What I said was directed at the second statement. There's a reason that exclusives don't come to PC...
Yeah, but the second statement doesn't say that they expect that to happen, only that it bothers them.
I didn't claim that the person expected it to happen...
Just that it bothering them because of the PC-like architecture makes no sense.
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XtremeXpider
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We need the ballmer version of this gif:
It does to me. To them, games on consoles are starting to look as good as PC games. So they're seeing games that look as good as they're used to playing, only they're locked to a console. With last-gen consoles it didn't bother them as much because they looked markedly worse than the PC games they're used to playing.
Why?
Halo sells truckloads more than Killzone. But not EVERYONE likes Halo. Some prefer Killzone.
So, as I said, all consoles have great games. Games are too subjective a subject. OS features are less so, and to me, more of a differentiator.
How do we decide which console has better exclusives?
What's the metric for something SO subjective?
We need the ballmer version of this gif:
I love it! I had to have a go, lol
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XtremeXpider
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Well dude, in that case, there's no way to tell if ANY game is bad.
I think it's never super definite, but review scores DO help, as well as looking critically at the game yourself, if you want to have an informed opinion on its quality.
With First Party games it's tough though, it's true, as they all generally have the same level of support and budget behind them.
Once again I see where you're coming from, but we're just going to have to agree to disagree.
Why would they be mad that stronger consoles aren't holding their PCs back as much?
Jonsoncao
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That is fanfreakingtastic! Gotta love Bill!
Oh man, this is gold.
James Sawyer Ford
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Not quite, and also the quantity of studios producing said titles is magnitudes different between different platforms (currently).
It's kind of a cop-out excuse to say that exclusives are good everywhere. Yeah, but not nearly to the same degree in terms of quantity of output.
OS features are something to look forward to, but I put them far below exclusive games. OS features are going to be good on both platforms, I don't see how I'm going to be amazed that consoles are just now getting up to the same level of standard that tablets and phones have enjoyed for years.
If Microsoft's main push next week during the reveal revolves around "kinectivity" (kinect + connectivity, did you like that?), with only a marginal focus on games that are mostly third party releases and not surprises (CoD, etc), then I will be pretty majorly disappointed.
Phire Phox
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I'll probably having trouble sleeping on the 20th becuz of hype. on 6 days and some change left!
ChosenPredator
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damn Geoff looks sick
njean777
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Yeah cuz I dont have a 360 sitting right beside me. /rolls eyes.
The industry is moving towards voice and none of it is even decent yet (except google of course). Siri is bad, xbox is bad, windows mobile is bad. The only one that is any good is google voice and xbox isn't gonna have that. For one to have to say "Xbox" is already bad, I shouldn't have to say "xbox perform action". I should just be able to say "play insert game title here" and it should do it. I am not saying it will not get better with time, but right now to list that feature as important is just really is odd.
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The core gamer market is pretty small though. If they can tap into the early adopters who buy iPads and line up for new phones every 20 minutes they'll be laughing. You don't get them with Halo and Alan Wake, you get them with services and cool technology.
But obviously games are the Xbox bread and butter. To think it's just going to be an Xbox branded Apple TV is ridiculous.
Sometimes even when you know that there are positives to something, you still wish you could circumvent the negatives. They just commented that he kinda wished he could play exclusives on PC. I don't really see a lot of anger or resentment in that statement, just an idle dream.
At this point, the services are all we can really reliably predict.
I'm also at the point where OS and features matter to me just as much as exclusive games.
I like a lot of the exclusives by MS and Sony, but 99% of the games I'll play on either of the HD twins is going to be multiplatform. A good, good chunk of those games are going to involve some form of online. I'd rather be on the console with the better service, even if I'm only getting say 4/5th as many exclusive in compared to the other device with the bad OS/feature-set.
That seems to be something a lot of people on Gaf can't wrap their head around. I'm already playing pretty much the best games of the console either way I go. Don't get me wrong, I loved Uncharted 2 and I loved Alan Wake, but I'm going to play Fallout 4, Watch_Dogs, or the new Mass Effect on either one. Like I said, I'm getting 95% of the best games of the generation either way I go. Those games that I listed are most likely the ones that keep me hooked on video games for the next decade or so. Having an OS that makes playing those games a much better experience is HUGE for me. The internet blossoming and opening up gaming has changed everything for me, even though I still prefer traditional single-player games.
I like a lot of the exclusives by MS and Sony, but 99% of the games I'll play on either of the HD twins is going to be multiplatform. A good, good chunk of those games are going to involve some form of online. I'd rather be on the console with the better service, even if I'm only getting say 4/5th as many exclusive in compared to the other device with the bad OS/feature-set.
That seems to be something a lot of people on Gaf can't wrap their head around. I'm already playing pretty much the best games of the console either way I go. Don't get me wrong, I loved Uncharted 2 and I loved Alan Wake, but I'm going to play Fallout 4, Watch_Dogs, or the new Mass Effect on either one. Like I said, I'm getting 95% of the best games of the generation either way I go. Those games that I listed are most likely the ones that keep me hooked on video games for the next decade or so. Having an OS that makes playing those games a much better experience is HUGE for me. The internet blossoming and opening up gaming has changed everything for me, even though I still prefer traditional single-player games.
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Yeah but it's more like 2/5ths of the exclusive and none of the systems will have a bad OS/feature set (except Wii U if it counts).
Exclusives matter way more to me than OS features that are bound to be a big improvement on both platforms.
Exclusives matter way more to me than OS features that are bound to be a big improvement on both platforms.
@Reiko, I love you for posting a pic of the best Siri there is!
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Exclusives are very important. Do we know for sure that MS isn't going to have more than last gen, though?
IMO, it remains to be seen if the xbox will be the superior console, but barring ridiculously bad decisions made about its design, OS, and games, I'll likely be getting it even if it's inferior. Can only buy one, and Sony exclusives don't wow me.
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Exclusives are very important. Do we know for sure that MS isn't going to have more than last gen, though?
IMO, it remains to be seen if the xbox will be the superior console, but barring ridiculously bad decisions made about its design, OS, and games, I'll likely be getting it even if it's inferior. Can only buy one, and Sony exclusives don't wow me.
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EDIT: @Izick a lot of Gaf doesn't like even 50% of the games each generation. It's understandable they feel differently.
That's true. There's just a lot of cynicism towards modern gaming. Nostalgia and a lack of thinking about the big picture usually is the reason why people think things are worse off. I don't think gaming has ever been better than today/
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RukusProvider
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I completely agree, Which is exactly why the PS4 has next to no interest to me.
I found Sony's exclusives severely lacking in fun and interest this gen. Certainly the best example of quantity vs quality that I can think of.
Which is why I said ALL consoles have games worth buying a console for.
If all you play is Cod For example, what will then clinch the decision for you?
Both HD consoles has CoD so how would you then decide?
PopcornMegaphone
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This gen I've enjoyed MS exclusives more Sony's, but really that doesn't matter much because I plan to buy both consoles again next gen. What I am interested to see is pushing consoles forward with innovation for games, entertainment, etc.
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