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What kind of sources?
I guess it's unfair to say a bunch of sources. I just checked the Arrow wiki and it stated that Oliver didn't actually kill him. Maybe they are just speculating or some clown threw it up without confirmation, but I assumed whoever keeps that up to date knows more than me. I guess we won't know officially know until season 2. I coulda sworn he died, but I could see them keeping him around.
edit: Amell did say in some interview that Ollie's reasons for being the Hood end in season 1, he fulfilled his father's wish or what not, and if he were to resume being a vigilante in season 2 it would have to be for completely different reasons. Kinda makes me think Malcolm is a goner.
Justice_dp
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So sad to see Tommy go. Damn it, best arc in the whole season and Ollie was a jerk the whole season in all his relationships...
dragonelite
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So does this episode confirms Malcolm is Ollie real dad?
I mean they both took a arrow to the chest and probably survived.
Tommy got a piece of iron through its chest and didn't survived. If only he lifted he could have lifted that stone from laural and be out within 5 secs. I just blame it on roy like i always do.
I mean they both took a arrow to the chest and probably survived.
Tommy got a piece of iron through its chest and didn't survived. If only he lifted he could have lifted that stone from laural and be out within 5 secs. I just blame it on roy like i always do.
Dam feels rip Tommy it should have been laural or roy :'(
You were alpha as fuark this episode.
You were alpha as fuark this episode.
I thought this was a meh finale.
Leave good guy around in chains in a room with no one directly watching him with a gun pointed to his head... check
Have good guy not kill bad guy despite everything he has done... check (If above rumors turn out true)
Let a character that was interesting and not an annoying cast member die... check
Sure all cliches you can ignore (and many more not listed) I just hoped for more. Still will check out S2 only for more Manu.
Leave good guy around in chains in a room with no one directly watching him with a gun pointed to his head... check
Have good guy not kill bad guy despite everything he has done... check (If above rumors turn out true)
Let a character that was interesting and not an annoying cast member die... check
Sure all cliches you can ignore (and many more not listed) I just hoped for more. Still will check out S2 only for more Manu.
Killing off Tommy seemed counter-productive to me, given that the character is one of the more engaging and is probably the best actor in the cast. Other than that, I greatly enjoyed this finale (although not as much as the last episode, which I watched just before). John Barrowman's raving scene was my favorite, totally unhinged. Never knew the guy had it in him.
But seriously. Why couldn't it have been Roy? Or Thea? Or Laurel? Or Laurel's dad?
But seriously. Why couldn't it have been Roy? Or Thea? Or Laurel? Or Laurel's dad?
Hey man, if we're keeping score here the heroes only half failed! I imagine if both of the devices went off the damage would have been insane, probably spilled out past the glades a bit. Oddly enough I figured there would be 2 devices in the end simply because based on how big that city is shown to be it seemed like it would make more sense to have one on each side.
Thought the season was pretty awesome overall, I'm not a comic book guy or anything so I am not approaching it from that angle, but I enjoyed what I saw. I think looking back at all the episodes I only have 2 complaints really. The first one being with Diggle, I think he's a cool character but he literally did jack shit the entire season, I am not sure if he is a character from the comic series or anything but I never felt like he had a purpose through the season, even in the "final fight" where they team up to take Malcolm on together all he really did was miss like 3 shots, throw about 3 punches, and then got stabbed. That pretty much sums up his relevance through the entire season imo.
Other thing is just how much bs romance crap is in the show. I am not openly against romantic subplots or anything (I will go as far as to say I am a softy for it when done correctly) but ohhhh myyyyy goddddd it's all so forced in this show. The only genuine relationship all season was Tommy and Laurel which I thought was really good but everything else just felt like it existed to cross off some checklist somewhere on trying to reach some tween female demographic or something, blech. I can't blame them for having it but it's annoying how much time gets wasted on it.
Soodanim
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Thanks for that, the UK is a week behind America.Damn....ballsy finale. Making Malcom live while Tommy dies. Not going the cliche Osborn route? Actually destroying half of the glades?
So damn good.
I just wish it was Laurel who died instead of Tommy
Also...we need the soundtrack... Malcom's theme is so awesome.
argh way to kill off the most interesting character
Tommy went through some dumb script shit in show, they completely forgot after first episode what doing with him. The guy was wide awake during the ambush in first episode even showing him with eyes open but was never brought up or mentioned again. Then they turn him into a moody baby for basically no reason during olivers reveal to be the archer.
Iam glad they avoided the green goblin route but man felt they could have used him much better doesn't help they still have unlikable characters like Thea walking around.
Still manu is a regular next season hopefully we get Deathstroke rolling in Sterling City not just confined to more Island flashbacks
Tommy went through some dumb script shit in show, they completely forgot after first episode what doing with him. The guy was wide awake during the ambush in first episode even showing him with eyes open but was never brought up or mentioned again. Then they turn him into a moody baby for basically no reason during olivers reveal to be the archer.
Iam glad they avoided the green goblin route but man felt they could have used him much better doesn't help they still have unlikable characters like Thea walking around.
Still manu is a regular next season hopefully we get Deathstroke rolling in Sterling City not just confined to more Island flashbacks
Razgriz-Specter
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Its a little much at times but I still like that we get it. its not something we would get much in a cartoon, comic or movie.
Calm yourself dude. It's never going that way at all.
This is Nolan Verse Green Arrow we are being given.
CW's previous incarnation did Buffy, Angel. ...and 7th Heaven.
They Arrow does fit into the type of shows they do when you think about the family drama and romantic plots.
I hate to break this to you but they are going to hammer us to death with "we can't be together" romantic plot. I would be happy if Felicity or Shadoo quickly put an end to that tripe.
Tommy becoming a villain wasn't a gimme. It was nice the writers had the balls to not copy Spiderman.
Barrowman is alive. Ollie stabbed himself to stab Barrowman and Ollie lived. The only thing that makes Barrowman living ambiguous is that the arrow only pierced Ollie's midsection while it was angled upward near Merlyn's heart.
Tommy still alive theories? Yeah that's stupid. But Malcom should still be alive. By the time Oliver told Tommy he didn't kill his dad, they were both suffering from the same injury. If he dies, it would be post-finale.
Razgriz-Specter
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Pretty sure it is. Only big change is an added scallop on the emblem and they covered the bottom part of the breasts.
TDLink
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To all the people thinking Malcolm is alive and:
That was clearly just a lie so Tommy could die easier. Malcolm is clearly stabbed through the heart. I guess they did it in a way where they could bullshit bringing him back but to me it seems his death was intended based on just this episode. Not that I wouldn't mind him back as Barrowman is great, I just really think the dude is a goner.
Why are you in this topic the day it premieres then? Moreover, why single out that one post when pretty much every post is saying the same thing, many in more detail?
I hope you're right, this show doesn't need superpowers. Just with them seemingly setting up Laurel to be Black Canary it seems sort of inevitable. I am happy with them never introducing them though if they go that route.
I don't know how you can say this definitively. It piercing Ollie's midsection and Merlyn's heart is exactly how I interpreted it also. That isn't the same injury. An arrow in the heart = dead.
That was clearly just a lie so Tommy could die easier. Malcolm is clearly stabbed through the heart. I guess they did it in a way where they could bullshit bringing him back but to me it seems his death was intended based on just this episode. Not that I wouldn't mind him back as Barrowman is great, I just really think the dude is a goner.
Why are you in this topic the day it premieres then? Moreover, why single out that one post when pretty much every post is saying the same thing, many in more detail?
I hope you're right, this show doesn't need superpowers. Just with them seemingly setting up Laurel to be Black Canary it seems sort of inevitable. I am happy with them never introducing them though if they go that route.
I don't know how you can say this definitively. It piercing Ollie's midsection and Merlyn's heart is exactly how I interpreted it also. That isn't the same injury. An arrow in the heart = dead.
I don't mind it, I am all for more romantic plots if they want to use them, I just want it to be believable. Literally every scene with Roy and Thea was terrible, and I actually don't have a problem with either of those characters outside of when they are together. Thea just seemed like a tool to get Roy involved with the main plot somehow but nothing about their relationship felt real.
And Oliver + every girl except Helena was pretty terrible too, though, not as bad as Roy and Thea. It actually bothered me a little how they would seemingly throw a love interest at Oliver only to remove her a few episodes later with a new replacement.
Vert boil
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No.
Arrow: chain climb, deep throat, I Took an Arrow in the Chest, roof top shoot out, ;(
Det. Chesthair: sigh
Diggle: hand shake
Felicity: sit down
Laurel: kiss
Roy: fight, shock
Shado: cry, breakin' neck
Speedy: shock
Tommy: punch
It's amazing that without eye make up you can clearly see his face.
Nice finale, plenty of amusing bits.
Deathstroke in Arkham Origins teaser
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq9bKYfyM-o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq9bKYfyM-o
Wiktor
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If it would hit him in the heart he would die instantly, instead of talking few sentences before collapsing
TDLink
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Yeah but this is TV. Gotta get those last few words out.
Rafa=FedKilla
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Thea " don't text and drive brah. It can wait!" Hahaha still want to see her in a Speedy outfit.
I don't think this is what's going to happen. Ollie was on that island for 5 years. Do we have any idea of the passing of time so far? It can't have been more than a year.
Once a show has aired, it is fair game to openly talk about it. It's been that way for a long time.
WrenchNinja
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Surprised they actually killed Tommy. Guess hes not going to be Merlyn.
Razgriz-Specter
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Yeah I kinda dislike Roy & Thea too.
Laurel I put up with because of Black Canary. Shado is a different type of love interest.
They really screwed Huntress up. guess Felictiy will stay as is.
He's been there for 2-3 inches of hair growth. When he finally gets rescued he has a full beard and long hair. Basically all we have to base island time on is beard time.
Triple Da G.O.D!
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For a show I intended to skip it did very well entertaining me the whole season. I have to say the ending was ballsy as hell. Kill Tommy & level the Glades. Didn't even see it coming and I'm usually good at seeing those types of things coming from a mile away. Should be interesting in Season 2 where they take this other than the no duh of Thea, Roy & Laurel learning what Oliver does and in one way or another joining the team. Season 2 is going to be a long wait for my next Felicity fix. GATDAMN!!
I'm dying over here!! And with E3 coming up I need to gather the GIF army. Thank You!
I'm dying over here!! And with E3 coming up I need to gather the GIF army. Thank You!
NotTheGuyYouKill
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I wanted to give props to the choreography team. This series has fantastic fights. Nolan's movies don't even come close to how awesome these fights are (though the Bane Sewer fight was indeed very awesome, but for other reasons). Seriously, the rooftop battle was great.
At least Ollie learns from his mistakes.
But I mean, Malcolm survived a bomb going off in his hand. He probably survived a measly arrow to the chest.
I guess with Tommy's death, it gives Oliver his "My Biggest Failure" moment.
At least Ollie learns from his mistakes.
But I mean, Malcolm survived a bomb going off in his hand. He probably survived a measly arrow to the chest.
I guess with Tommy's death, it gives Oliver his "My Biggest Failure" moment.
dragonelite
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WillPwn4Food
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I'm interested to see what they do next season with this. IMO, if they're not careful, S02 could be the last if they go too cheesy.
I must agree though in saying I'm happy they did actually level half the glades and they killed Tommy. Shows they are trying to break cliches.
I must agree though in saying I'm happy they did actually level half the glades and they killed Tommy. Shows they are trying to break cliches.
They are inconsistent with their beard time
Maybe he can't grow hair on his head and face at the same time. So next season in the flashbacks his hair will stop growing while his beard catches up. Or maybe Slade shaves his face for him.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Oh God. Don't let Lannister find out.
It was the first CW show to be renewed this year (together with Supernatural and The Vampire Diaries) so The CW has a lot of confidence in the show. And honestly they should, it is in their top 3 and their first hit debut since they launched The Vampire Diaries.
I really hope they don't waste 500 episodes on shit like this, I swear to god half of Smallville's runtime was occupied by "WE CAN'T BE TOGETHER FOR REASON X,Y,Z,B,D,F." There's only so much you can take before it becomes stupid and an obvious attempt to drag out an uninteresting romance/storyline.
No.
yeah wtf was this shit?
Forsaken82
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Ollie's wound is in the same place as Malcolm's if you look. Id assume it was meant to hit closer to the shoulder than the heart, they just didn't pay close enough attention when detailing the wounds. I am pretty confident that Malcolm is alive.
Miles Quaritch
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Embarrassing. I really don't get all the positive Tommy posts. He was ever so slightly less of a joke this episode, but still enough of a joke to make me not really care that he's dead.
keltickennedy
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Malcom is dead. Tommy is dead. I don't understand why people think differently. Also I don't get people saying that Tommy was the best actor on the show. I thought he was horrible, even for CW standards.
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