LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
16 here. Get with the times.
This is pretty hilarious and has been a roller coaster that makes any memorable thread a moment in history
in a nerdy GAF type way
EA Sports Engineer: Wii U is crap, < powerful than 360. No $ 3party. [Tweets Deleted]
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16 here. Get with the times.
This is pretty hilarious and has been a roller coaster that makes any memorable thread a moment in history
fluffydelusions
Member
How did OP come across this guys twitter anyway...I mean random EA dude with like 40 followers
Horse Armour
Member
British Columbia, Canada based on his linkedin.
The only games I really think sold that well are the original, OoT, and maybe ALttP.
Yea I dont get it, Zelda is not as casual game as NSMB and Mario Kart, and COD its no gonna sell 10-20 mil.
It sells fine and Nintendo thinks it sells fine, they put out two on Wii, and will have 2 on WiiU WW HD and Zelda WiiU
Beetleking11
Banned
But 6million is still huge succces.... I dont get you guys.. what wrong with this fucking nINTENDO hate?? Now 6 million is like a piece of shit?? . Skyward sword cracked more than 3 million.
Yes, but most people really should leave the thinking to horses. They do have a bigger head after all. And they don't tweet asinine bullshit, because it's damn hard to type with hooves.
Especially if LTTP2 does well.
Schnozberry
Member
I don't think he should be fired. EA made him delete his tweets and remove references to their company from his twitter account. That's probably enough, though I wouldn't be surprised if I heard that he was suspended or something. I'm sure they have a company policy against speaking in public in ways that could be construed as representing the company.
ThisWreckage
Banned
Everything he said is true. Everyone in the hardcore gaming community has known this for years. Third parties have difficulty making money on Nintendo platforms and Nintendo is notoriously difficult to work with. And yes, the Wii U is underpowered. So let's not turn this into some witch hunt because the guy stated the obvious.
TalesOfWin
Banned
tell me something that gaf doesn't come across?
BlazingDarkness
Member
Yeah... fifteen years ago.
How about
Ur football
As this is mainly about proving your own home grown team worldwide.
Yup one guy says he was just speaking the truth, I guess if I called my fat slob of a boss a fat slob I guess I shouldnt get fired since it was the truth.
Rush2thestart
Member
EA really showing their colors
It isn't a witch hunt. He said it in an incendiary way when I'm sure EA didn't want him saying it. When you say stupid shit on Twitter, you can lose your job. It's dumb for anyone to say anything that you wouldn't want your employer to hear about.
Also: I don't think the eShop is terrible. I think it's pretty good. I find it much easier to use than the Xbox Live marketpalce.
That number is severely inflated.
Rob Schnoddor
Banned
This. Like i said in an earlier post, even i would get fired for making myself and the company i work for look stupid. And i am just a little web developer working in a really small local agency.
It's how business works today ...
And still, is there any major evidence that he is getting fired? Looks to me like he is trying to hide everything.
Nah, I don't think he's fired. I don't really think it's that big of a deal. May be a harsh reprimand by the boss or something.
Zelda also used to be a better, as well as a much more ambitious, series than it is now.
PdotMichael
Banned
I don't know how it works in Canada. But I can say that EA couldn't fire him for such tweets in an EU country. Just thinking about it is crazy.
There is a difference between saying your opinion about something and insulting your boss.
Steve Youngblood
Member
Aside from the fact that it might upset some diehard fans, I don't even really think the issue is so much one of stating an opinion. He's not the first person to not have glowing things to say about the Wii U, and if he's not afraid of people on message boards taking issue with opinions they don't like, I don't think he needs to shy away necessarily from sharing his thoughts publicly. But when going the public route, I don't think it's absurd to suggest that better discretion should be employed with the phrasing.
I really didn't think that this was some wacky concept.
Colonel Mustard
Banned
Edit: Didn't see the Linkdn thing.
I thought it might be Florida, where you can get fired for sneezing the wrong way.
The Hermit
Member
It will be a cold day in hell the day Nintendo just "offers" its IP to the competitors.
They will die with Nitntendo, period.
They will die with Nitntendo, period.
Beetleking11
Banned
They need Miyamoto as director.. thats how they can fix it..
OoT is widely considered by many to be the greatest game ever made so of course it sold so well. Of course its possible for them to do it again if they can get a high attach rate for the game and its an evergreen title.
Welp that's what I get for consulting ********. <---- LOL @ censor. I thought they'd be at least SOMEWHAT reliable for games that have been out for a long time now.
I still stand that if you're looking to describe a couple of best-selling Nintendo franchises, putting Zelda next to Mario isn't the greatest comparison, but then again, I guess all Nintendo games that don't include Mario pale in comparison to Mario's sales.
I'm not saying games have to sell like CoD, I'm talking comparable-to-Mario sales, which are, on a per-game basis, typically better than CoD (although CoD has new games every year, none of that evergreen stuff).
Also, "used to be better than CoD"*** because I'm not sure when the next time is that we'll see another 10+ million seller from Nintendo on consoles.
I still stand that if you're looking to describe a couple of best-selling Nintendo franchises, putting Zelda next to Mario isn't the greatest comparison, but then again, I guess all Nintendo games that don't include Mario pale in comparison to Mario's sales.
I'm not saying games have to sell like CoD, I'm talking comparable-to-Mario sales, which are, on a per-game basis, typically better than CoD (although CoD has new games every year, none of that evergreen stuff).
Also, "used to be better than CoD"*** because I'm not sure when the next time is that we'll see another 10+ million seller from Nintendo on consoles.
Ea didn't care from the get go.
Here is Madden NFL 2012 relabeled as Madden NFL 2013. Buy lots of copies!!!!
Here is Fifa 2012 relabeled as Fifa 2013 Buy lots of copies!!!
Already owned the 12 version of both why would I buy it another time relabeled as 13
Skyward Sword suffered greatly coming as late as it did. Even most hardcore Wii owners had shelved the system mostly
I think his point is that a Zelda game doesn't have to have the casual market (e.g Wii) to do well, Zelda fans are all they need.
But twilight princess probably is around 8.5 mil?
But that might be because people prefer realistic zelda over cartoonish. Also it is the most selling Zelda.
So next brand new Zelda will probably be realistic and grim.
Cerebral Assassin
Member
No-one is saying it bombs(but Nintendo have many games that sell significantly more & likely with a smaller budget too), just that placing it alongside Mario as the only games that sell on Nintendo platforms is stupid & is a sign of a lack of knowledge on the subject.
polyh3dron
Banned
NeoGAF: Enabling Game Industry Members To Make Asses Of Themselves Since 2007™
TalesOfWin
Banned
People were incredible hyped about it since the last Zelda game before it was the amazing Zelda LA.
Sadly, the Zelda hype isnt just the same today. But I guess that's for another thread.
ThisWreckage
Banned
It is a witch hunt. There's a pattern developing on GAF where if a person says something politically incorrect or controversial on twitter the pitchforks and torches come out. You're going to start to see companies telling their employees that they can't use twitter because of this nonsense and GAF will be at least partly to blame. This guy did not say anything racist or sexist. He didn't even insult rural America. He has an opinion, which, by all accounts, is true about a company. Companies are not people.
Beetleking11
Banned
Does the GAMECUBE twilight sales count also?
Dave Meltzer
Banned
People are always so eager to see people punished. I guess it's Drama or something.
Smiles and Cries
Member
IGN Updated the story http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/17/ea-senior-engineer-the-wii-u-is-crap
broken links makes it worst because now to context is unknown
not that I think EA would or should fire the guy but deleting does not fix the image issue
OrangeJulius
Member
You underestimate the Nintendo diehard. As long as a Mario, Zelda, or Pokemon game is being made, the fans will still be there. I just don't get why they are in the home console business. If the only games coming out for your system are first party, why not just exit the console business which is incredibly difficult to survive in? (ask sega)
The reason Nintendo is still alive in the console business is because they managed to sell a zillion rebranded gamecubes with a snazzy controller. Not like they were selling state of the art hardware at a loss.
They got greedy and tried to repeat that success with WiiU. Selling outdated tech with a gimmick controller isn't working this time. It might have if the Wii would've actually had some fun games to play, but it didn't and now even the Nintendo faithful are weary of buying the system if the only games it's ever going to get are first party.
It was a bad strategy and it backfired. I truly feel this will end with Nintendo either burying the system virtual boy style and starting fresh, or exiting full size home consoles all together, handhelds they will probably keep.
If your bread and butter is games, as it has been with Nintendo for over a decade, then they should just go 3rd party and put Mario, etc, on the sony and microsoft consoles. They'd make a freaking killing.
I always wonder that. do people like type in "Horrible video game stories/rants" and see what pops up?
IMO ALttP was also one of the greatest games ever made so I think that helped a bit as well.
I doubt he is aware of Orth gate. This has to be his first week on Twitter.
Especially for two companies that have been around for ages. To be fair this guy isn't EA and he doesn't represent their future decisions of course. But right now it seems like Nintendo is indeed out of EA's plans.
