Raise the flame shield: Your "controversial" gaming opinion.

After Jet Force Gemini, DK64 is rare's greatest game on N64.

The multiple kongs, and superb multiplayer mode cements the deal.


Also, Diddy Kong Racing is a (slightly) better game than Mario Kart 64 which I believe to be the best Mario Kart.
 
Silent Hill 2 is highly, highly, highly overrated. The story is nowhere near as good as people say it is, and the game design is weird. Silent Hill 3 is clearly the best Silent Hill game.
 
I dont think some people know what the definition of "controversial" is in this thread.

lol seriously

How is saying SMG2 having a great soundtrack controversial?


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PC gaming is a money-suck, and consoles are more powerful and more efficient. Case-in-point, my graphics card (Radeon HD 7570) costs $139.99 on Dell's website, which is more than a PlayStation 2 costs these days. I bring that up because it can barely emulate a PS2 game properly. Any card that has came out within the last few years should be able to handle last-gen games with ease. Also, gaming on PC pretty much sucks with AMD hardware because no game is specifically coded for it, and nVidia is too damn expensive.



what the heck?

Emulation is like a completely different thing because emulating a system requires more CPU usage and whatnot. It's different from running a game natively.
 
  • PC gaming is a money-suck, and consoles are more powerful and more efficient. Case-in-point, my graphics card (Radeon HD 7570) costs $139.99 on Dell's website, which is more than a PlayStation 2 costs these days. I bring that up because it can barely emulate a PS2 game properly. Any card that has came out within the last few years should be able to handle last-gen games with ease. Also, gaming on PC pretty much sucks with AMD hardware because no game is specifically coded for it, and nVidia is too damn expensive.



  • Ill try and show some figures in order to prove you wrong.

    Average PC that should run the latest games at 60fps 1080p:

    CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£166.99 @ Aria PC)
    Motherboard: MSI Z77A-G41 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£70.49 @ Ebuyer)
    Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory (£33.92 @ Dabs)
    Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£45.98 @ Aria PC)
    Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (£216.98 @ Aria PC)
    Case: BitFenix Shinobi ATX Mid Tower Case (£49.90 @ Amazon UK)
    Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply (£60.95 @ Amazon UK)
    Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£11.47 @ Amazon UK)
    Total: £656.68

    If anything that is overkill but its future-proofed. Throw in the fact, pc games on the whole are cheaper and there are no monthly subscription services. I would wager this PC would well outlast the average console life cycle so while it is more at the moment the money saved in the long run is more than worth it. People still used GPU's from 10+ years ago and have had no incentive to upgrade as games run just fine. Yeah it may be simpler to just buy a console and plug it in but if you spend 20 minutes learning about computers you can save a lot of money.

    Also the 'Nothing is coded specifically for AMD' is unfounded. If you want to go by the 'AMD gaming evolved' and whatever the Nvida equivalent is then the last big game I can remember baring the AMD Gaming Evolved logo was Crysis 3.
 
99.9% of the appeal of Grand Theft Auto 3 came from the shock value of getting hookers and shedding blood in 3D. GTA1 and 2 and 1979 were far superior. 3 and on were just lacking. not terrible games, but probably the most overrated games ever. They're just above average, but had lots of shit to do so simple minds were entertained.

For all that I'd just stick to Elder Scrolls.


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All of these fans forcing devs to make some kind of timeline or story continuity in games is ruining games.

All games don't NEED storylines. And even worse are the people who forum rage on people for ruining the ending to games like STREET FIGHTER and MARIO. WTF? Those games SHOULDN'T have a great dependence on stories. Its all the same shit. Character you play wins, person they hated loses. Character's love interest saved.
 
The notion that girls are into games are just one of those bedtime stories that people tell us to make us believe that one day we will find a girlfriend who is into games like us.

No, i don´t count casual facebook shit or "i´ve played that mario game when i was little" in the BS statistics that say the market is 50% guys, 50% girls.

Girls are just not into gaming at all. It´s best to accept this is a fact and move on. Any girl you meet in real life will think you are still a child for thinking too much about games.

Girls into gaming, like the ones here on GAF are like 1% of the hardcore gaming population.

Proof to my theory: i never met any girl in real life that i could call a traditional gamer. NEVER EVER! So those facts have made me a strong believer of my theory.

It´s a controversial opinion, and it´s a shame because i would like to be wrong.
 
I don't claim to be the paragon of emulation standards, but I remember a quote that I read in an Android forum regarding possible PS2 emulation on tablets: "The hardware has to be more powerful than the console it's emulating for it to work." Call me crazy, but I would like to think that a graphics card and CPU made in the last two years are more powerful than 10 year old hardware. But when the only games I can run are FFXII at 59 FPS with occasional slowdown during certain cutscenes, Kingdom Hearts at 59 FPS and Tekken 5 at 30 FPS, I start to wonder. That, and I don't want to have to do a bunch of tweaking to make my games work.

As far as normal PC gaming... I can barely get 20 frames out of GTA IV. That's the whole reason I bought my new PC, to play that and make movies using the clip editor...

EDIT: For reference -

HP ENVY hd1534
Beats by Dre Audio
10GB DDR3 RAM
Radeon HD 7570 2GB
AMD FX 6200 Six-Core Processor
HP Pavilion 1080p HDMI Monitor

7570 is an extremely low-end card for OEM only, not really a "gaming" card. If you're stilling interesting in PC gaming though, the 7790 can be had for $140 and it pretty much can run any game from this gen at high/ultra settings.
 
All games don't NEED storylines. And even worse are the people who forum rage on people for ruining the ending to games like STREET FIGHTER and MARIO. WTF? Those games SHOULDN'T have a great dependence on stories. Its all the same shit. Character you play wins, person they hated loses. Character's love interest saved.
For real. "OMG SAVE PEACH AGAIN" - Are you serious? Does it also bother you tha Tetris is about falling blocks again? Ugh.
 
GTA IV has a notoriously bad PC port. It's hardly indicative of PC gaming as a whole.

Okay. I had heard that same sentiment around these parts and other sites as well, so I can accept that answer.

lol seriously

How is saying SMG2 having a great soundtrack controversial?


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what the heck?

Emulation is like a completely different thing because emulating a system requires more CPU usage and whatnot. It's different from running a game natively.

What kind of CPU would it take then?

Ill try and show some figures in order to prove you wrong.

Average PC that should run the latest games at 60fps 1080p:

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£166.99 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: MSI Z77A-G41 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£70.49 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory (£33.92 @ Dabs)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£45.98 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (£216.98 @ Aria PC)
Case: BitFenix Shinobi ATX Mid Tower Case (£49.90 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply (£60.95 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£11.47 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £656.68

If anything that is overkill but its future-proofed. Throw in the fact, pc games on the whole are cheaper and there are no monthly subscription services. I would wager this PC would well outlast the average console life cycle so while it is more at the moment the money saved in the long run is more than worth it. People still used GPU's from 10+ years ago and have had no incentive to upgrade as games run just fine. Yeah it may be simpler to just buy a console and plug it in but if you spend 20 minutes learning about computers you can save a lot of money.

Also the 'Nothing is coded specifically for AMD' is unfounded. If you want to go by the 'AMD gaming evolved' and whatever the Nvida equivalent is then the last big game I can remember baring the AMD Gaming Evolved logo was Crysis 3.

Then maybe you can help me out here.

I'm about to test Bioshock Infinite when I get home, and according to various benchmarking sites, I should be able to run a mid-level settings with sub-40 FPS. How can I get this thing running efficiently and other games like it as well.

Any help would be appreciated, seriously...

EDIT:

1st Course said:
7570 is an extremely low-end card for OEM only, not really a "gaming" card. If you're stilling interesting in PC gaming though, the 7790 can be had for $140 and it pretty much can run any game from this gen at high/ultra settings.

Ah. The way AMD labels their cards is very misleading. I always assumed "the higher the number, the better the card". Guess I'm wrong...
 
The way Both AMD and Nvidia GPU's works is similar to consoles that is in generations. E.g.

6950 vs 7790 - 6950 wins.
580 vs 650ti - 580 wins.

So the high end of the last gen is better than the low of new gen. Obviously that is to be expected. I hope that makes sense :P

With squeezing as many FPS as possible Anti Aliasing is the biggest power hog, turn it down as much as you can bear if you aren't getting an FPS you are happy with. Otherwise it just trial and error fiddling with each setting until you get something you can play with.
 
I don't see how people use D-Pad for fighting games. I understand in the case of the Dualshock and it's shitty analogs, but other than that, I prefer using a 360 Controller Analog or an Arcade Stick. [Although in any situation if it comes to the occasion where I must use a D-Pad or alternate input device, I usually have no problem adapting to it.]


Other than that, I think the Gamecube controller would be perfect for KOF..... but that Octogon is horrible. When it comes to fighting games, I only like it for Smash.

I think most people who hate the "anime"/eastern aesthetic were probably fans of it once that tried to move on once it got oversaturated. In the end seeing all of those people get into it turned them off and they went through some kind of self hating complex. Or they got garbage ass Saturday Morning anime, and shonen battle anime confused with actual quality.

Also, I think to label an artstyle or story as "anime" itself is pretty damn ignorant. Eastern artists have a plethora of different styles and storytelling. You have to find something you like. Me personally, I'm a fan of Korean manwhas, The characters are well detailed and stylized kinda like good 90s anime, mixed and are pretty damn thuggish. That shit is kinda cool.

Also, anybody who hates on Platinum Games' art direction needs Jesus.

And hating on Sonic nowadays just isn't cool. They're good games. Even better than the Genesis titles. Deal with it.
 
I remember a quote that I read in an Android forum regarding possible PS2 emulation on tablets: "The hardware has to be more powerful than the console it's emulating for it to work." Call me crazy, but I would like to think that a graphics card and CPU made in the last two years are more powerful than 10 year old hardware.

Dude, we're talking way more powerful, depending. Emulating something like the PS2 is extremely complicated. The emulating hardware needs to be able to execute all of the instructions the emulated hardware would, but before it can even do that it has to translate all of these instructions on the fly as well.
 
I don't claim to be the paragon of emulation standards, but I remember a quote that I read in an Android forum regarding possible PS2 emulation on tablets: "The hardware has to be more powerful than the console it's emulating for it to work." Call me crazy, but I would like to think that a graphics card and CPU made in the last two years are more powerful than 10 year old hardware. But when the only games I can run are FFXII at 59 FPS with occasional slowdown during certain cutscenes, Kingdom Hearts at 59 FPS and Tekken 5 at 30 FPS, I start to wonder. That, and I don't want to have to do a bunch of tweaking to make my games work.

As far as normal PC gaming... I can barely get 20 frames out of GTA IV. That's the whole reason I bought my new PC, to play that and make movies using the clip editor...

EDIT: For reference -

HP ENVY hd1534
Beats by Dre Audio
10GB DDR3 RAM
Radeon HD 7570 2GB
AMD FX 6200 Six-Core Processor
HP Pavilion 1080p HDMI Monitor

You actually need a PC many orders of magnitude more powerful then a console in order to properly emulate it. Each original game instruction translates to many instructions on the emulating machine. Emulators are also not well optimized because the creators are working in incomplete technical information and often resort to guesswork and trial and error. For example Microsoft was able to emulate original Xbox games on the 360 but a working PC emulator still does not exist.
 
I have a dislike for any game in first person view yes that includes Half Life/Portal/Mirrors Edge/Team Fortress 2/anyFPS & first person rail shooters

It's because I can't play them for more than 5 minutes without barfing because of motion sickness :(
 
99.9% of the appeal of Grand Theft Auto 3 came from the shock value of getting hookers and shedding blood in 3D. GTA1 and 2 and 1979 were far superior. 3 and on were just lacking. not terrible games, but probably the most overrated games ever. They're just above average, but had lots of shit to do so simple minds were entertained.

For all that I'd just stick to Elder Scrolls.

At least 50% of the appeal was seeing a game like GTA in full open 3D world. It was a huge thing back then.
 
Whew, here we go...

1.) I loved the ending to Mass Effect 3.
2.) I can't stand the BioShock games.
3.) Call of Duty is still the best online multiplayer.
4.) I LIKED Duke Nukem Forever damnit!
 
Whew, here we go...

1.) I loved the ending to Mass Effect 3.
2.) I can't stand the BioShock games.
3.) Call of Duty is still the best online multiplayer.
4.) I LIKED Duke Nukem Forever damnit!

I admit to really digging the idea as well, just not the execution. If it were one of several distinct choices I would have probably selected it on my first playthrough, but it was the only choice. That's where it fails, IMO.
 
That someone can prefer GTA's gunfights and missions to GTA3's is strange to me, that someone can prefer driving a car in GTA to driving a car in GTA3 is baffling.
 
Indeed. Controversial would be something like this:

"Super Metroid was one of the worst games ever made"

I love Super Metroid
Metroid Prime Hunters is the best Metroid. I had no idea this game got hate until today, but it truly great. The only Metroid single player I could get through and the awesome multiplayer added hours on.
 
Hey, I asked what your favorite game on it was for a reason.

EDIT: Wasn't SNATCHER released on CD? A friend recommended it to me, so I might check it out later,

Snatcher, Silpheed, Sonic CD, Shining Force CD, Popful Mail, Final Fight CD (which up until very recently was the closest to the arcade version you could get on home platforms), the first two Lunar games, Robo Aleste and Lords of Thunder. Those are my personal favorites on the platform.
 
Half Life 2 Deathmatch is secret best ''old school style'' deathmatch game :3

Better than stuff like Quake 3 ect.

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MADNESS
 
Ya know, so I played Ocrina of Time for the first time on the 3Ds this past month.

Sure, it is good...But really, it has to be nostalgia carrying this thing right?

Some of the puzzles are clever...

The part of the game with kid Link kinda sucks.

What little combat there is, it is just okay (unless you are fighting the big skeletons, werewolves, etc)...

Im glad I played it, but overall, its just a good game that has very good level design to hide the technical limitations for its time.

LttP or Link's Awakening, still amazing titles.
 
Ya know, so I played Ocrina of Time for the first time on the 3Ds this past month.

Sure, it is good...But really, it has to be nostalgia carrying this thing right?

Some of the puzzles are clever...

The part of the game with kid Link kinda sucks.

What little combat there is, it is just okay (unless you are fighting the big skeletons, werewolves, etc)...

Im glad I played it, but overall, its just a good game that has very good level design to hide the technical limitations for its time.

LttP or Link's Awakening, still amazing titles.

It's not the nostalgia - I was as unimpressed back in 1998 as I was earlier this year when I replayed it.
 
Ya know, so I played Ocrina of Time for the first time on the 3Ds this past month.

Sure, it is good...But really, it has to be nostalgia carrying this thing right?

Some of the puzzles are clever...

The part of the game with kid Link kinda sucks.

What little combat there is, it is just okay (unless you are fighting the big skeletons, werewolves, etc)...

Im glad I played it, but overall, its just a good game that has very good level design to hide the technical limitations for its time.

LttP or Link's Awakening, still amazing titles.

I think it's a great game but it's definitely not the best game ever. Just not enough to it to earn that distinction in my book.
 
It's not the nostalgia - I was as unimpressed back in 1998 as I was earlier this year when I replayed it.

Ha, maybe that's it.

Im trying not to judge it through 2013 eyes, but it seems that this was alot of a hair yonger than me gamers first real 3d experience and maybe one of their first games.

Its the only thing that can put it in the absolute top video games of all time.

I would like to hear an argument though that it did pioneer the 3d adventure or something.

I can respect the first of its kind sort of thing, but I don't think this was.
 
Fallout 3 is the best Fallout made so far.... Come at me, bros.

I think this too. I definitely think you would have to have been there at the time of release to enjoy Fallout 1/2. I've tried playing them many times, and they are awful.

Yup. Fallout 1 is pretty good and I like it, but FO3 is still better.

Sleep with your eyes open.

Halo ruined the FPS genre.

Half-life was the beginning of the end, Halo dealt the coup de grâce.
 
  • PC gaming is a money-suck, and consoles are more powerful and more efficient. Case-in-point, my graphics card (Radeon HD 7570) costs $139.99 on Dell's website, which is more than a PlayStation 2 costs these days. I bring that up because it can barely emulate a PS2 game properly. Any card that has came out within the last few years should be able to handle last-gen games with ease. Also, gaming on PC pretty much sucks with AMD hardware because no game is specifically coded for it, and nVidia is too damn expensive.


  • This isn't so much a controversial opinion as it is a grossly misinformed view of a reality. Your 7570 is not less powerful than what's found in PS2 solely because it struggles with PCSX2, that's a huge oversimplification.
 
Moba games and demon/dark souls are AWFUL. You can't browse ANY video game forum without these two being talked about. SHUTUP ABOUT THESE GAMES THEY ARE TERRIBLE ANYWAY! I've tried them and they are not fun AT ALL. And no, they aren't difficult for me, they're just really really boring.
 
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