Vigilant Walrus
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CAN YOU HEAR THE GAFFERS SING
SINGING A SONG OF HATING MICROSOFT
SINGING A SONG OF HATING MICROSOFT
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Phil Harrison: Microsoft making $1B bet on Xbox One games
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Microsoft really have upset me since the reveal but what you say is true and thats just the nature of this forum, Bad Microsoft news is exaggerated to extreme levels and good Microsoft news is twisted into bad news. Its almost the complete opposite of what happens with Sony and the PS4 on here.
LiquidMetal14
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My point is that I didn't say what you surmised from my post. You have to understand that the current situation with what we know on used games and online isn't exactly sitting well with a lot of us so it kind of sours excitement for the platform a little bit.
I'm not really in the arguing mood but I will have more clarity after E3. We all know they will have games. Just like we all know Sony and Nintendo will be bringing it.
Neko Mimi Mode
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Hard to say, but it's true they have opened numerous new game studios and have planned 15 internal exclusive games this year. That's a massive investment that I can only but imagine they are confident can be recouped through subscriptions.
They are serious about Xbox One regardless and appear willing to dip in to their seemingly endless cash pile to make it a success.
Halo:CE joined MS's Platinum Hits and eventually their Best of Platinum Hits, which meant it was eventually available for $10 new. I think the Best of Platinum Hits line came out around the time the 360 came out. I don't remember when Halo became a regular Platinum Hits game (which were all $20 at that point), but I would think it was one of the first.
I assume tens of millions, considering Activision makes hundreds of millions from DLC alone. Limiting it to just one console for a month before releasing it on the PS3 and PC must have been done with an extremely lucrative offer.
I H8 Memes
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If they were truly interested in having a strong first party presence then they would already have those first party studios. This is just following what they did last gen by kicking off a systems life with first party games and exclusive 3rd party games just to get the sales of the console rolling then almost completely dropping first party support after people buy the console.
XxHANNERxX
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And what games have they shown so far. You know, that are actually running on their console and not a PC, or a CG demo? Knack, maybe. I have seen just as much out of microsoft, and they have not even had a games focused event yet, unlike Sony. smh
mysteriousmage09
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Worst troll alt account ever.
This is a ridiculous complaint.
Maximilian Kolbe
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Well they opened new studios in Osaka,Japan
Neko Mimi Mode
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Some of it is in the OP;
15 new first party exclusives this year
Several new studios opened
The rest can be presumed to go towards third-party moneyhats like Ryse and Titan etc.
Well they opened new studios in Osaka,Japan
This interests me most, could be where we get our JRPGs from.
I H8 Memes
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It's not a complaint, it's an observation. I wouldnt buy a MS console for exclusives when MS have shown in the past that they mostly secure exclusive content only around the first few years of a systems launch.
Tell me which exclusive games did the 360 have over the last 3 years? Halo and Forza. You might bring up the last 2 Fable games but I would say I'm being kind to MS by not counting them.
They have built and bought first parties over the last few years. See their timeline on the Wikipedia page.
They have been busy for a while and we haven't yet seen what most of those studios are working on.
professor_t
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Microsoft really has fucked up from the perspective of the core gamer, but this definitely is true. You don't have to look any further than this thread for Exhibit #2437.
It's kind of a bummer because it stymies interesting conversation (e.g., look at the thread on cloud gaming here, then compare it to the one on Beyond3D -- one has an informative discussion about what might be possible, and the other is like a play room full of toddlers who just had their toys taken away).
Punkster_NY
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^^^This right here.
SniperHunter
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If they are opening the studios now, when will we see the games?
They showed CoD, EA sports, Forza and Quantum Break by a second party at e3. They have a lot of other second party exclusives at e3 (Titan, Insomniac, Ryse, Epic etc)
this is great news though, it's all about the exclusives!
They showed CoD, EA sports, Forza and Quantum Break by a second party at e3. They have a lot of other second party exclusives at e3 (Titan, Insomniac, Ryse, Epic etc)
this is great news though, it's all about the exclusives!
Do what? LOL
I'm seriously in awe of a question like this.
You simply sign into your user name when you get to your friends. Then you can play your game with him on his system.
When you leave and sign back in at home, it's no longer associated with his. Just like user profiles on the 360.
Are people making something, so simple to understand, complicated on purpose?
Bad Robot Surgeon
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Any "good" Microsoft news is basically tainted with the realities of the choices they made for their platform.
We're making a bunch of games!*
*That will require a subscription to play multiplayer, that will require your console to be online for activation and regular authentication, that you can't trade/lend/sell as you wish.
Summary of this thread
so true..
XxHANNERxX
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How am I trolling? Being completely honest. Nothing that Sony showed at their event was running on their hardware. But let's count those as well. So Sony showed, what, 5-6 games. MS showed 3. Not going to count the EA stuff, even though those excite me. It's not like Sony has absolutely set the world on fire and are overflowing with games.
Both will hopefully blow us away at E3, at least that is what I am hoping for. Still getting both consoles most likely, though we will see what happens.
They've been opening studios over the past few years.
I maybe off on this but i am guessing opening new studios and hiring talent ain't cheap, and they've been doing a lot of both in the last few years. Just saying. So i really don't know what your problem is, weren't you people bitching about them closing many studios and not having enough first party content? Now they are actively rebuilding their first party, what's your problem with that exactly?
Future PhaZe
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343 made some unfortunate design decisions with Halo 4, but were otherwise and extremely successful example of a first party design studio for MS designed for the core audience.
Super stoked to hear that more are on the way.
Super stoked to hear that more are on the way.
The whole forced kinect thing still frightens me, I do not want to ever speak a word to my games, or wave my arm at my tv...never.
And you know they are going to make sure that you have too, like if you don't say "good dog" in cod ghosts the beast will maul you and then you have to swing your arms like a fool.
Though, and perfectly done boxing game would be cool, like 1:1 movement perfected...but id never play it alone.
And you know they are going to make sure that you have too, like if you don't say "good dog" in cod ghosts the beast will maul you and then you have to swing your arms like a fool.
Though, and perfectly done boxing game would be cool, like 1:1 movement perfected...but id never play it alone.
Neko Mimi Mode
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Just because it's there doesn't mean it has to be used that way, or even at all.
Kinect simply doesn't work for some genres, the good thing is that now it's in every box, they no longer need to waste time/resources developing content just for Kinect. Throw a Kinect family game out every now and then to keep a minority happy and that's it.
PsihoPerihelion
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I hope this pay offs and give us a variety of games that we didn't have on the 360, specially for people like me that's really interested on the Uno.
Like a billon dollars demolishing the Ensemble building and another half burning the employee's corpses.
Like a billon dollars demolishing the Ensemble building and another half burning the employee's corpses.
I don't know why this is a bad thing. A lot of people are railing on Microsoft in here for what appears to be perceived slights that haven't come to fruition, yet. I agree that it is now hard to give Microsoft the benefit of the doubt but $1 billion investements in games studios is a good thing as long as they aren't just making all AAA games, imo.
Actually, Sony only showed 4 also. Knack, Killzone, Destiny and Infamous.
Sony showed specs, MS showed specs.
Sony showed pics of the OS, MS showed the OS working.
Sony showed the controller, MS showed everything.
Those are the facts. How people choose to view/spin those facts is up to them.
jfoul
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"We will have a solution — and we’re not talking about the details today but just to take the angst out of this — that allows a user to trade that game back in and to give up the right to play that game."
It's nice to hear they have a process to de-authenticate games for resale.
It's nice to hear they have a process to de-authenticate games for resale.
Goodacre0081
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are we expecting Epic to sign another deal with Microsoft this cycle? if i can get gears of war on PS4/PC I don't see a reason to pick up a Xbone at all.
FalsettoVibe
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Neko Mimi Mode
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No, general consensus is they'll be multiplat.
Microsoft could always moneyhat something from them of course.
Neogaf: "We want games!"
Harrison: "We're spending a billion dollars on games"
Neogaf: "Lol like spending money on games means anything"
I need that neogaf gif
As I said, how people choose to view is up to them.
Sony talked up social, MS talked up social.
Sony briefly mentioned the camera, MS briefly mentioned the camera.
Watch both reveals one after the other, they weren't that different from each other if you choose to watch them objectively.
Also, Kinect can see your heartbeat; it will know if you truly want to go home or not. The heartbeat never lies.
:-D
Honestly I think they are throwing the "billion" dollars out there as the total they are spending.... however half of that is going to the "300,000" servers they are going to roll out.... (These are not cheap, These also are "content development?"), so to be honest... don't go in expecting a ton of extra content.
If they are not included in that number... they should come out and say they are spending close to 2 billion on gaming... and make all their investors have heart attacks.
If they are not included in that number... they should come out and say they are spending close to 2 billion on gaming... and make all their investors have heart attacks.
Goodacre0081
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just think about all the extra money they could have poured into games if they didn't do the NFL/networkTV deals. they spend 1B on games but still spent 400M on the NFL deal.
it always worried me that our XBL fees would go toward non-gaming endeavors
it always worried me that our XBL fees would go toward non-gaming endeavors
They aren't rolling out new servers, those servers already exist.
HigherLevel
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Well they opened new studios in Osaka,Japan
Wait, they said this during the reveal? I haven't watched the entire thing so I did not know this.
how sure is this thing. I never read about this rumor. when was it first mentioned?
Well they opened new studios in Osaka,Japan
Wut?
Karak
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Though I hate the look of the machine and just about everything else about it.
This just can't be spun to bad news in my eyes. I am trying to keep my thoughts in check for E3. I will give a tentative hope of showing-
13 total games(they may not show all they have simply due to how far along the game is)
5 Brand new IP's with some Kinect
3 Fully Kinect games
5 Old IP's with some Kinect
Regardless of EVERYTHING else. I am interested in the Kinect enhancing games but not taking them over which a good dev could do.
This just can't be spun to bad news in my eyes. I am trying to keep my thoughts in check for E3. I will give a tentative hope of showing-
13 total games(they may not show all they have simply due to how far along the game is)
5 Brand new IP's with some Kinect
3 Fully Kinect games
5 Old IP's with some Kinect
Regardless of EVERYTHING else. I am interested in the Kinect enhancing games but not taking them over which a good dev could do.
SniperHunter
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It was mentioned by a neogaf insider. According to him, Insomniac will announce a Xbox One exclusive at e3. Additionally, Dead Rising 3, League of Legends and Hawken will be exclusive to Xbox One.
Neko Mimi Mode
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They showed all their new studios on the map, Osaka wasn't mentioned specifically but was shown and it's known it was made to exclusively provide content catering to the Japanese market, for what it's worth.
Prediction Karak ?
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