Toronto Mayor Rob Ford in purported video smoking crack cocaine!(Gawker, also T.Star)
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This fucking clown. Toronto, I'm so sorry. (never thought I'd ever say that)
It's been a hard year for us
BigJonsson
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And here we go...?
Sapiens
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Gawker has stated (and restated) that they have lost contact for a week now.
If there are more copies of the video out there, one would assume that the first crackhead to claim the prize, gets it.
Still a lot of uncertainty.
Very exciting.
A part of me hopes this is the beginning of the end of the modern Canadian "conservative."
You Are Viewtiful
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Just invested in some popcorn stocks.
If he calls an election Toronto better pay for it itself. I'd love to see him run on his fiscal conservative platform with a $7 million election just one year away from the real election.
If he calls an election Toronto better pay for it itself. I'd love to see him run on his fiscal conservative platform with a $7 million election just one year away from the real election.
He managed to spin killing the vehicle registration tax as a victory for the city, so I'm sure it won't be a problem. His voting base doesn't believe in paying any taxes because they don't care about any city services that they don't use. They won't see this as a waste, but an opportunity to stick it to the 'pinko socialist downtown' It's scary.
ruhroh
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I think when people asked you what you meant by this, they assumed you meant before the Rob Ford crack story, so you talking only about the Rob Ford crack story doesn't explain anything.
So, are you suggesting that Gawker (who has also apparently viewed the "non-existent" video, and published the story before the Star ever did) is in league with the Star for some random nonsensical reason that only a conservative in denial could come up with?
crazy monkey
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I will vote ford again. He was the best choice at that time. seems like will be again.
Yeah man all of the constant idiocy sure is great for the city!
Fiscal irresponsibility ftw?
PeteZaTheHutt
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If the video doesn't surface, the Star is subsequently wide open to a MASSIVE libel/defamation lawsuit. Not to mention serious damage to their own credibility and reputation. How is this an easy out?
Rob Ford Video Copies Out There, Toronto Star's Robyn Doolittle Says: http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/05/27/rob-ford-video-copies-robyn-doolittle_n_3343234.html
You Are Viewtiful
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Wtf how is Ford better than Stintz, Holyday or even Mammoliti (sp)? At least before I could understand since Smitherman is proven incompetent and lost the province over a billion dollars but this time around there is no excuse. Why would anyone vote Ford other than to watch the city burn?
jamesinclair
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Even if you really believe in his fiscal 'ideals', how is he the best choice? He can't function, or implement his ideas without council's support. He's a bully that couldn't debate with others, and after a few votes early on went his way, council has basically shut him out.
Other conservative members of council that might run can actually make sensible proposals and have some sort of basis for them. Ford has no clue at all of how to build a city. His platform is basically cut all city services, sell off all city run corporations and kick anyone out of the city that doesn't like it. Sure glad he axed that vehicle registration tax though, right before he threatened to start cutting city services.
And he has no clue about transit, although he loves to talk about it. Cancel Transit City to build a Scarborough extension that we couldn't afford because he was sure "private funding" would be found? That's almost as bad as throwing out the idea of $100 million in revenue from a casino to build more subways. Ah yes.. $100 million.. at the rate of the Spadina extension.. about 375 metres per year.
This guy is a moron when it comes to politics and went his comes to how he conducts himself. You have better places to put your vote if someone else that shares your fiscal conservative policy runs.
WrenchNinja
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When is this circus going to end, this has done nothing but make Toronto look like a joke
laesperanzapaz
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the still-loyal Fordistanis are reminding me of those "Panic Nintendo is best Nintendo!" guys lol.
I am salivating at the thought of this dude getting brought down. the corks are ready, dont disappoint, toronto....
I am salivating at the thought of this dude getting brought down. the corks are ready, dont disappoint, toronto....
Zombie James
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If I ever got hit by a car and lost enough mental capacity that voting for a Conservative made sense, I still wouldn't vote for Ford; I'd vote for this guy:
You Are Viewtiful
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I always felt sorry for Tory. Everyone seems to like him but not enough to elect him for anything.
Not that the Sun had any credibility to begin with, but hopefully people remember they heavily endorsed him for mayor.
Sapiens
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If I ever got hit by a car and lost enough mental capacity that voting for a Conservative made sense, I still wouldn't vote for Ford; I'd vote for this guy:
I like him, but I'll never trust him due to that boneheaded religious school funding promise.
Not very conservative of him...
Tory seems like a good guy, but he's a born loser.
Hours Left
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But panic Nintendo is best Nintendo.
Anyway, it's interesting to see all this blowing up in his face. Hopefully Ford will finally go away.
Liberty4all
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Blood is in the water now.
Well it is bullshit that Catholic schools are publicly funded but not any other schools from any other religion. Its too bad the Supreme Court has upheld the public funding of Catholic schools.
joeygreco1985
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They talked about the crackstarter on the edge this morning. I really wish they wouldn't glorify handing over so much cash to drug dealers. The video is going to come out anyways
So the first time you voted for him you knew he was a moron.
Now you know he smokes crack AND is a moron and you still want to vote for him?
Has yet to be publicly confirmed.
PeteZaTheHutt
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Nothing to see here, people. Willectro hasn't seen it, so the video doesn't exist. Nothing to see here. Please disperse...
PalaceBrother
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As much as it sounds like this is the real deal, we do need to be cautious and respect the fact that charges have not been laid, nor has the video seen public release.
Ford is like an incredibly unfunny Chris Farley and I cannot believe he is the mayor of Toronto....but going after Willectro because he wants proof is a bit of a witch hunt.
When the video does come out (and at this point it sounds like it probably will) we can start a thread dedicated solely to animated Willectro GIFs (hard "g"), but until then I do think it would be wise to treat all developments in this story with a grain of salt.
Charges? What charges do you think could possibly be laid?
PalaceBrother
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Poor choice of words. My bad.
Not trying to get into a semantics argument....just suggesting prudence before judgement is passed.
gutter_trash
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didn't Ford hire someone to whack the drugdealer? he has been unreachable and there are rumors of homicide
http://www.thestar.com/news/city_ha...er_spoke_with_police_homicide_detectives.html
http://www.thestar.com/news/city_ha...er_spoke_with_police_homicide_detectives.html
Yeah, his entire personal staff dissolving is clearly just a coincidence.
PeteZaTheHutt
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Yeah, I completely understand what he's getting at and I agree that nothing is official until the video is released or seen by the proper authorities. But we've got two Star reporters who have seen the video and agree that it is legitimate. We've also got a Gawker reporter who watched the video (separately from the Star reporters? I'm not sure about this point) and his description of the video corroborates that of the two Star reporters. We've also heard (from Doolitle I believe?) that there are multiple copies out there and that more and more people are coming forward claiming that they've seen the video. This is a pretty good indication that there IS a video out there. Will we ever see it? A couple of days ago, I was seriously doubting it. But now, with word of several copies existing and the Crackstarter having met its goal, I think that it might get to us plebs after all.
Willectro was almost being obnoxious in his relentless and repetitive denial of the existence of the video, to the point where he's simply giving a flippant "the video doesn't exist" response to many posters here. He willfully ignored the fact that three journalists have seen and verified the video's content. And a growing number of people who have also seen the video are coming forward. There IS a video. He is also implying that the Star has an easy out if the video never surfaces. Well, the only out that they could have is an enormous PAYout to the Fords for libel and defamation. If what the two Star reporters saw in the video was not 100% legitimate, they would not have described what they saw in print for fear of legal reprisals. The glaring fact that Ford has not even mentioned the possibility of suing the Star should be another indication that this video exists.
Somebody else here in the thread mentioned that the Star has been right about everything with respect to Rob Ford's shenanigans in the past, but Willectro doubts the Star's credibility where Ford is concerned. This same poster asked Willectro to name one issue that the Star has reported on Ford that turned out not to be true. Willectro has not responded since..
I, for one, would like to see Willectro respond to this previous challenge. Name one contentious allegation that the Star made toward Rob Ford that turned out to be false. I'd like to state for the record that I honestly don't know if this has ever happened, but I think that he needs to answer this question, otherwise his failure to respond can only be inpterpreted in one way.
So, based on all of the preceding info, it seems that Willectro is simply plugging his ears and singing tra-la-la and willfully ignoring the evidence against Ford that keeps mounting on a daily basis. We may not have the smoking gun, but many people have seen the gun being fired and we can see and smell the smoke increasingly every day and it's starting to stink to high heaven.
PalaceBrother
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A great summation, thanks PeteZa. I haven't been following the thread closely so this helps frame things.
I put zero faith in any "journalism" coming out of the Star, but you're right that the poster in question is handling this poorly. The additional reports coming from non-Star entities is becoming damning.
Simon Belmont
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The only reason people like Rob Ford is because he makes Liberals angry. There just simply can't possibly be a policy based reason to support him. Everyone knows he did it. It makes perfect sense based on his observed pattern of substance abuse and subsequent denial until overwhelming evidence forces him to admit to it.
People like Willectro don't really think he's totally innocent, they just hope he can shrug it off and keep making Liberals mad. It would be better for everybody if Rob Ford just had a job hosting a right wing talk show, not running the sixth largest government in Canada.
People like Willectro don't really think he's totally innocent, they just hope he can shrug it off and keep making Liberals mad. It would be better for everybody if Rob Ford just had a job hosting a right wing talk show, not running the sixth largest government in Canada.
PeteZaTheHutt
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I realize that you've had a bad personal experience with the Star, which sucks. So I can understand your distrust toward them. BTW, feel free to elaborate if you want as you've piqued the interest of many of us here. Although we'd all understand completely if it is something that you'd rather not discuss and have it remain private. I too would be wary of the allegations if it were solely from one source and it was a distrustful source. But as you've mentioned, other entities are involved and more are getting involved on a daily basis. Heck, I didn't even mention that the police have gotten involved and are specifically looking for the video.
The next few days should be very interesting. It could be any day now that a copy of the video pops up online, or Gawker could get ahold of a copy using the Crackstarter money. Somebody from the Star just tweeted the guy from Gawker wanting to talk to him about the Crackstarter campaign just a couple of hours ago. Combine this with the fact that the Star mentioned Monday morning that they are still in negotiations to obtain the video and it looks like the two might be combining forces to acquire the video. Gawker has admitted that they haven't heard from their contact in a long time, while the Star has said that they are in contact with somebody who is in contact with the owner of the video. Gawker has $200,000+ burning a hole in their pocket but no seller. The Star has a seller, but no money (or at least not enough money). I wonder if they'll try to work together to get this thing done.
Rob Fords office takes another hit with resignation of press secretaries
When your own people decide to jump ship, something is definitely wrong.
When your own people decide to jump ship, something is definitely wrong.
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