scytheavatar
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Some nonsense about beef between Fanatiq and CORN, and him complaining about UFGT people being on an ego trip and targeting AGE people, but who cares? This is more important:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v1G_U_t_Ls
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Some nonsense about beef between Fanatiq and CORN, and him complaining about UFGT people being on an ego trip and targeting AGE people, but who cares? This is more important:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v1G_U_t_Ls
call_kotaku
Member
ChrisG doesn't want to go to evo because he doesn't see the point of winning it; Triforce latches on because it somehow validates what he's doing. Plus Marn talks about how awesome it is when a developer has a playerbase of 13 million and decides to pay for a competitive circuit, and it's relevant to fighting games somehow.
Riposte
Member
X-Factor could very well be split into multiple forms (which could perhaps be overall weaker) which players can choose. Then can really get creative (e.g. this one is best for anchors, only this one gives you speed, this one gives a universal airdash, this one cancels out X-factor, etc).
EDIT: VF has one "special" bar in the form of Shun Di's drinks. They are even consistent over rounds.
EDIT: VF has one "special" bar in the form of Shun Di's drinks. They are even consistent over rounds.
Passive Assassin
Member
Welp. EVO is going to be another FGTV potsplit then?
Karsticles
Member
I would pay DLC money for a tridashing Haggar.
I don't know if it's related to this, but FChamp posted this in the Twitch chat earlier today (I forgot to post it here since I had it sitting in Notepad):
Fgtvlive: i dont think anyone but justin makes more than me or same
Fgtvlive: rogs contract should be better next year since this is his first year
toddhunter
Member
That awkward moment when you realise you are wasting your life.
Professor Beef
Banned
ChrisG needs to drop the AGE anchor around his neck and find an actual sponsor.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
VXG EMP Chris G.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
I'm back 
Got to meet DacidBro and talk to him for a bit, missed a chance to play him in P4A though.
Played in a small injustice tournament and got second though so that was fun.
Was hoping Max was going to be there but I guess he had other stuff he was tending to at the time.
Got to meet DacidBro and talk to him for a bit, missed a chance to play him in P4A though.
And win 
Played in a small injustice tournament and got second though so that was fun.
Was hoping Max was going to be there but I guess he had other stuff he was tending to at the time.
Professor Beef
Banned
biosnake20
Member
I feel like Chris G would fit in nicely with EG.
Parallax Scroll
Banned
ChrisG's an idiot if he doesn't go to Evo. This is as dominant as he's ever going to be.
Damn this was cold. What if we go eSports again tomorrow, huh?
Where did you go? Glad you had fun though!I'm back
Got to meet DacidBro and talk to him for a bit, missed a chance to play him in P4A though.And win
Played in a small injustice tournament and got second though so that was fun.
Was hoping Max was going to be there but I guess he had other stuff he was tending to at the time.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
I was at an anime convention in San Jose. I've been going for the last 6 years, I missed last year though because my back started to get really bad around that time, I actually had a wheel chair this year so I went again.
Funniest momment was
"What are you cosplaying?"
"Oh I'm cosplaying a cripple, I do it everyday, it's fun"
Guy when from
to D: in half a second.I like this idea a lot.
Heroes and heralds box dash H she-hulk is some of the most fun I have ever had.
Professor Beef
Banned
Is the payout for EVO 10k? I seem to recall stories about players who won EVO saying that the payout isn't as high as people think it is.
Parallax Scroll
Banned
https://twitter.com/NYChrisG/status/339234719168356352
ChrisG can't see past the end of his nose. If he gets his first Evo title he has a decent shot at getting a sponsor better than garbage AGE.
ChrisG can't see past the end of his nose. If he gets his first Evo title he has a decent shot at getting a sponsor better than garbage AGE.
Day 1: I DON'T DO IT FOR THE MONEY, I DO IT FOR THE TROPHIES
Day 2: SHOW ME DA MONEY
Day 3: ????
Day 4: eSports
Passive Assassin
Member
I was at an anime convention in San Jose. I've been going for the last 6 years, I missed last year though because my back started to get really bad around that time, I actually had a wheel chair this year so I went again.
Funniest momment was
"What are you cosplaying?"
"Oh I'm cosplaying a cripple, I do it everyday, it's fun"
Guy when from
Fanime? Glad you had fun. A couple of friends went and they got props for being cardboard Blitzcranks.
That's what Dieminion was saying, pay out is like 15k.
That's still fucking paltry.
toddhunter
Member
But, as a serious question, what is a decent sponsor?
All the time and work needed to get yourself into a position to "probably" win 10K would be my issue. Even with Champ dedicating a month to winning Marvel or whatever he is doing, the amount of things he could be doing with that time is huge.
Which is all well and good if people love the games and want to keep playing them, but that is why the real life monster will always win in the end. Incidentally it is also why the whole "cleaning up streams and making concessions to tournament formats" thing is important...but I digress...
Passive Assassin
Member
BT. lol :{
call_kotaku
Member
He doesn't really, though. There's no sponsor in the FGC that would pay him an amount proportional to how much he dominates the game.
Getting a 9 to 5 pays more than any sponsor would pay you, that's the truth of it with or without esports, unless you're one of maybe a dozen people in a game played by 10s of millions.
Professor Beef
Banned
EG seems to be the only sponsor out there that pays well. Justin gets a regular salary from them, and I think Floe does too.
It seems a lot of players share the same sentiments as Chris G and I suppose its understandable. He's the best at what he does but compared to other competitive gamers in different genres, he's only making a fraction of what they are.
It really is a shame that IGN sold IPL as it could have been really big for the FGC (or Capcom players). A lot of resources went into that deal that went to waste and at the moment, there's really no clear alternative. As it stands right now, there doesn't seem to be a lot of growth either. I don't have any numbers but I can't imagine tournaments having a lot of growth. Maybe someone could provide entry numbers for majors the past 3 or 4 years? I'm thinking it has a very linear growth. In regards to stream viewership, it seems rather stagnant as well. EVO 2011 topped at around 80k views iirc and EVO 2012 got around 95k? I'm really curious as to how many viewers EVO will get this year. I'm thinking it'll reach around 100k. Something big needs to happen in order for the FGC to really prosper.
It really is a shame that IGN sold IPL as it could have been really big for the FGC (or Capcom players). A lot of resources went into that deal that went to waste and at the moment, there's really no clear alternative. As it stands right now, there doesn't seem to be a lot of growth either. I don't have any numbers but I can't imagine tournaments having a lot of growth. Maybe someone could provide entry numbers for majors the past 3 or 4 years? I'm thinking it has a very linear growth. In regards to stream viewership, it seems rather stagnant as well. EVO 2011 topped at around 80k views iirc and EVO 2012 got around 95k? I'm really curious as to how many viewers EVO will get this year. I'm thinking it'll reach around 100k. Something big needs to happen in order for the FGC to really prosper.
Parallax Scroll
Banned
EG or Complexity.
toddhunter
Member
It seems to be pretty static though. Unless I'm missing somebody it is still just the four of them in that pretty close group?
It doesn't exactly scream big money or investment to me.
Do we have any idea/ballpark to what a player sponsored by them would earn?
Chris G's got such a shit personality.
No really.
This scumbag was everyone's favorite babyface, but when the spotlight was on him I realized what a whiny, emo bitch he really is. Dude's the best Marvel player (and possibly the best gamer in US FGC) and when he's got a golden opportunity to create content, grow the scene and get more fans (like F. Champ), he's squandering it off on twitter fights and diva tactics. Once I thought that was Fanatiq's influence but I know better now.
No really.
This scumbag was everyone's favorite babyface, but when the spotlight was on him I realized what a whiny, emo bitch he really is. Dude's the best Marvel player (and possibly the best gamer in US FGC) and when he's got a golden opportunity to create content, grow the scene and get more fans (like F. Champ), he's squandering it off on twitter fights and diva tactics. Once I thought that was Fanatiq's influence but I know better now.
Yep. Complexity pays for FChamp's rent, car, travel and everything.
That boy is good.
Parallax Scroll
Banned
FChamp has said 70k. That's after he got a raise for winning Evo and includes tournament winnings.
Professor Beef
Banned
EG has a bunch of players, and it's not all fighting games.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Yup that's the one
Freaking line for badges was 7 hours long...
and about 2 minutes for me. One perk to being in a wheelchair I guess lol
I was freaking depressed when I couldn't go last year. My friends had a room and I had the tickets and everything I just didn't have the physical strength for it at that point. It's literally nonstop walking and standing.
Damn, I didn't know we had a number for his salary.
That's pretty damn good IMO. He does his sponsors very well too.
Are all of the FGTV sponsors through Complexity too? Newegg and Console Combat are pretty new ones, and I don't think they're like Sound Blaster is for Complexity as a team sponsor.
toddhunter
Member
Of course, well aware of that as you see the teams heavily promoted. But only that small group in the FGC? I don't see them actively signing players and making a big show of it. They seem to have wrapped up Justin and perhaps thrown some bones to his mates.
Interesting. Kind of makes me wonder why Mike Ross wouldn't have continued on? I got the impression he largely stopped playing.
Professor Beef
Banned
Actually, i agree with him.
Now that you mention it, maybe Chris G is considering becoming a full time stripper or escort? I mean that way he doesn't even have to pot split, unless he starts feeling bad for his customers.
toddhunter
Member
Already well versed at explaining stick issues too.
The economics don't work right now, unfortunately.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
What prompted this?
I'm at least somewhat sympathetic to any top player for whom their daily grind sometimes feels like more of an actual job than a hobby once you take it to that level. It has to cross all of their minds at some point.
Considering the game he comes from, there's only one logical thing he'd get: slowing down everyone except him.
But in Viewtiful Joe Slow slows down everything including Joe...
call_kotaku
Member
A part of me does want to see esports take over like all these players are advocating, so they can be thoroughly dominated by Koreans who train 18 hours a day. Then they can brag about how they're the highest-placing American at the tournament (tied for 16th), and complain when the commentators get paid more than the tournament winner.
If you want that esports money you'll still need to play for it, and there are bigger pot monsters out there than the small fish we got in the FGC.
If you want that esports money you'll still need to play for it, and there are bigger pot monsters out there than the small fish we got in the FGC.
God damn. And he's the heel of the community too?
I think we've solved the Pandora's box that is Chris G.
Professor Beef
Banned
Not if you hold R while using Slow.
That only makes you run at normal speed.