Game of Thrones *NO BOOK SPOILERS* |OT| Season 3 - Sundays on HBO [Read the OP]

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It doesn't look good for Benjen Stark, I tell you.

  1. His horse returned to Castle Black, sans the rider.
  2. Ghost went for a wander and returned with a severed hand (is it his hand? Who knows)

No horse, no provision, no obsidian dagger, you get the picture.
 
MoonsaultSlayer said:
My wife and I have a theory but I'd hate for the book reading squad to call me out if it were real, thus spoiling it for me. Even if they counter it with a "no, dude. you're safe" spoils that it doesn't happen haha.
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Feel free to share. I'll have the head of any book reader who leads you astray.
 
Whatever Varys' intentions are, if they differ from his publicly stated views on the subject, he keeps those card very close to his chest.

He's a crafty one. I'd say the eunuch way of life might breed patience.

EatChildren said:
Feel free to share. I'll have the head of any book reader who leads you astray.
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Let the heads rot on a spike outside Castle NeoGAF...
 
Vagabundo said:
Let the heads rot on a spike outside Castle NeoGAF...
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Funky Papa said:
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There was me, that is Alex, and my three droogs, that is Pete, Georgie, and Dim, and we sat in the Korova Milkbar trying to make up our rassoodocks what to do with the evening. The Korova milkbar sold milk-plus, milk plus vellocet or synthemesc or drencrom, which is what we were drinking. This would sharpen you up and make you ready for a bit of the old ultra-violence.

He'd probably make a great Alex if they ever did a remake.
 
You know, if some fool ever tried to remake A Clockwork Orange Alfie would be an amazing choice.

Edit: And we've already seen his dingdong anyway.
 
EatChildren said:
Feel free to share. I'll have the head of any book reader who leads you astray.
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Actually, I realize my theory isn't about his fate but his role overall. This is so out there that I almost feel it's true based on a rewatch of the first season (but there are some inconsistencies).

*Warning: discussion of Benjin and another character that may or may not play out*
I have this strong feeling that Jon Snow is Benjin's son based on hair color. Ned took him in to protect his bro who had broke the oath of the night's watch. In season one, just before Snow heads to the wall, Ned gives Snow a pep talk and reassures him that he's a Stark... and they cut to Benjin looking back, which gave me the idea that he longed to be the one who could speak to his son like so. BUT during a scene when Stark and Robert were reminiscing about his bastard's mother, I couldn't tell if his demeanor was out of love and respect for her or if he was uncomfortable with the lie...

Edit: I realize that perhaps that theory is something that even book readers may not be privvy to since it may be an end game reveal.

Edit 2: But then how would such a thing be hinted at in season 1? Gah, I should never have brought it up!
 
MoonsaultSlayer said:
Actually, I realize my theory isn't about his fate but his role overall. This is so out there that I almost feel it's true based on a rewatch of the first season (but there are some inconsistencies).

*Warning: discussion of Benjin and another character that may or may not play out*
I have this strong feeling that Jon Snow is Benjin's son based on hair color. Ned took him in to protect his bro who had broke the oath of the night's watch. In season one, just before Snow heads to the wall, Ned gives Snow a pep talk and reassures him that he's a Stark... and they cut to Benjin looking back, which gave me the idea that he longed to be the one who could speak to his son like so. BUT during a scene when Stark and Robert were reminiscing about his bastard's mother, I couldn't tell if his demeanor was out of love and respect for her or if he was uncomfortable with the lie...

Edit: I realize that perhaps that theory is something that even book readers may not be privvy to since it may be an end game reveal.
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Ned really doesn't strike me as the sort of guy who would cover up his brother breaking the oath like that.

I actually think
Jon is Lyanna's kid. A friend and I were theorizing about that back in season 1/2 and that seemed to be the thing that made the best sense of all our theories considering Ned's character and action. Ned would protect family like that, not an oath breaker. That would also explain his complete reluctance to tell Robert who the mother was

Also, why are we spoiling speculation? lol
 
MoonsaultSlayer said:
Actually, I realize my theory isn't about his fate but his role overall. This is so out there that I almost feel it's true based on a rewatch of the first season (but there are some inconsistencies).

*Warning: discussion of Benjin and another character that may or may not play out*
I have this strong feeling that Jon Snow is Benjin's son based on hair color. Ned took him in to protect his bro who had broke the oath of the night's watch. In season one, just before Snow heads to the wall, Ned gives Snow a pep talk and reassures him that he's a Stark... and they cut to Benjin looking back, which gave me the idea that he longed to be the one who could speak to his son like so. BUT during a scene when Stark and Robert were reminiscing about his bastard's mother, I couldn't tell if his demeanor was out of love and respect for her or if he was uncomfortable with the lie...

Edit: I realize that perhaps that theory is something that even book readers may not be privvy to since it may be an end game reveal.

Edit 2: But then how would such a thing be hinted at in season 1? Gah, I should never have brought it up!
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That is actually a pretty interesting theory I never thought of. The only problem I have with it is the fact that there is no reason why he wouldn't tell Catelyn the truth as opposed to letting her be miserable and putting this giant wedge between them for something that isn't true.

As for your second edit, whether this has been resolved in one of the books thus far or not, George Martin surely already knows the answer and could have easily told them if it were indeed the truth and they wanted to hint at it.
 
RDreamer said:
Also, why are we spoiling speculation? lol
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i was just about to post this. you guys must be very confident in your theories to put them in spoilers, lol.

for what it's worth, i think jon is ned's son. i hope he becomes king, either of the seven kingdoms or the independent north. "the bastard king" sounds kind of cool don't it.
 
RDreamer said:
Ned really doesn't strike me as the sort of guy who would cover up his brother breaking the oath like that.

I actually think
Jon is Lyanna's kid. A friend and I were theorizing about that back in season 1/2 and that seemed to be the thing that made the best sense of all our theories considering Ned's character and action. Ned would protect family like that, not an oath breaker. That would also explain his complete reluctance to tell Robert who the mother was

Also, why are we spoiling speculation? lol
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If that's true, who is the father? Something tells me that Ned would not have sex with his sister. I'd prefer if Ned had a moment of weakness than once again be some always honorable figure. As of now, the only thing he's done that is really detestable is assuming that Jaime killed the king out of cowardice and ambition.
 
Frank the Great said:
i was just about to post this. you guys must be very confident in your theories to put them in spoilers, lol.

for what it's worth, i think jon is ned's son. i hope he becomes king, either of the seven kingdoms or the independent north. "the bastard king" sounds kind of cool don't it.
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I did it in case I was right and got called out. Being in spoiler tags would help hide it from innocent posters who'd read the quote and then see "you're a book reader!" thus spoiling. So, yeah, I guess it's confidence haha. But seriously, it's my one and only theory that I have as I'm just along for the ride with everything else.
 
RDreamer said:
Ned really doesn't strike me as the sort of guy who would cover up his brother breaking the oath like that.

I actually think
Jon is Lyanna's kid. A friend and I were theorizing about that back in season 1/2 and that seemed to be the thing that made the best sense of all our theories considering Ned's character and action. Ned would protect family like that, not an oath breaker. That would also explain his complete reluctance to tell Robert who the mother was

Also, why are we spoiling speculation? lol
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Spoiler tags just because, all show stuff but maybe a bit based off the Blu Ray extras
If Jon was Lyanna's kid that would make his likely real father Raegar Targarian wouldn't it? Seeing as the whole rebellion was started when he abducted her.

Shit this makes a lot of sense. Jon was born during the rebellion. Ned would lie to protect his nephew from Robert, who we know was happy to kill Targ babies, especially when they're a living reminder of what happened to Lyanna. And what better way to ensure Jon has no kids to continue the Targ bloodline than ship him off to the Wall with Benjin?

So... Jon Snow is the rightful king... Fuck.
 
RedShift said:
Spoiler tags just because, all show stuff but maybe a bit based off the Blu Ray extras
If Jon was Lyanna's kid that would make his likely real father Raegar Targarian wouldn't it? Seeing as the whole rebellion was started when he abducted her.

Shit this makes a lot of sense. Jon was born during the rebellion. Ned would lie to protect his nephew from Robert, who we know was happy to kill Targ babies, especially when they're a living reminder of what happened to Lyanna. And what better way to ensure Jon has no kids to continue the Targ bloodline than ship him off to the Wall with Benjin?

So... Jon Snow is the rightful king... Fuck.
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This is what I though as well, besides the rightful king bit. He'd still be a bastard.
 
RedShift said:
Spoiler tags just because, all show stuff but maybe a bit based off the Blu Ray extras
If Jon was Lyanna's kid that would make his likely real father Raegar Targarian wouldn't it? Seeing as the whole rebellion was started when he abducted her.

Shit this makes a lot of sense. Jon was born during the rebellion. Ned would lie to protect his nephew from Robert, who we know was happy to kill Targ babies, especially when they're a living reminder of what happened to Lyanna. And what better way to ensure Jon has no kids to continue the Targ bloodline than ship him off to the Wall with Benjin?

So... Jon Snow is the rightful king... Fuck.
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fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu- i like this theory

at least he will still be called "the bastard king"
 
Rorschach said:
Don't all the Targaryens have blonde hair?
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Good point. I think that's a pretty significant trait of their lineage.

But looking on the wikia for the series which only shows content from that and the extras

theres some incestuous relationships which might account for that.
 
Some of you book readers just can't help it, can you?

Seriously, anyone who posts in the book reader thread should not be allowed here at all. You can't have proper discussions with people who haven't read the book. Just can't.
 
tycoonheart said:
Some of you book readers just can't help it, can you?

Seriously, anyone who posts in the book reader thread should not be allowed here at all. You can't have proper discussions with people who haven't read the book. Just can't.
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How do you know he read the books? How do you know it's correct?
 
tycoonheart said:
Some of you book readers just can't help it, can you?

Seriously, anyone who posts in the book reader thread should not be allowed here at all. You can't have proper discussions with people who haven't read the book. Just can't.
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That's not going to stop twats like eosos who do it on purpose sadly. Hope he gets permabanned for that.

Fuck it after this season I'm just reading the books. If you can't beat them...
 
tycoonheart said:
Some of you book readers just can't help it, can you?

Seriously, anyone who posts in the book reader thread should not be allowed here at all. You can't have proper discussions with people who haven't read the book. Just can't.
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That's bullshit. I post here and I am extremely respectful of no spoilers, never comment on speculation, mostly on actors and reactions to the current episode. Hell, I even PM even if somebody just wants backstory-fleshing-out.
 
RedShift said:
That's not going to stop twats like eosos who do it on purpose sadly. Hope he gets permabanned for that.

Fuck it after this season I'm just reading the books. If you can't beat them...
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That was my feeling, i'm glad i did too because they're considerably better.
 
Ignatz Mouse said:
That's bullshit. I post here and I am extremely respectful of no spoilers, never comment on speculation, mostly on actors and reactions to the current episode. Hell, I even PM even if somebody just wants backstory-fleshing-out.
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Yeah I appreciate most of the book readers on GAF. I think people only notice the bad ones and focus on them but the good ones far outweigh the bad.

The us vs them attitude is pretty bad in this thread sometimes.
 
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