Game of Thrones *NO BOOK SPOILERS* |OT| Season 3 - Sundays on HBO [Read the OP]

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That's just it though. It's like why? How would Harry Potter have been if you killed off Dumbledore first book and then killed Harry, Hermione and Ron in the next books and so by the time you were at the end, it's just Dudleys Durrett against all the Slytherins or Voldemort or something. What's left?

I usually watch episodes 2-3 times after they air to take it all in, but I can't for this. Seeing what happens to Talisa and baby Ned Stark or whatever get stabbed like that, seeing Cat cry for Robb only to see him die and then get her throat slit.

Harry Potter was the main character his name is in the title of the books. Remember when you thought Ned was the main character? Now remember when you thought Robb was? Maybe you should adjust your perceptions?
 
and also, i don't understand why people are complaining about all "the heroes" dying. this isn't fucking harry potter good v. evil shit. and besides, there are still plenty of "good" and interesting characters left that we can root for, namely arya, tyrion, bran, gendry, stannis' former butt buddy, jon snow, sam, daenarys. and even other characters like jaime and varys have shown signs of "goodness" that make me root for them at times. if people have a problem with finding people to root for, they should stick to simpler stories.
I can't believe people are separating characters in this show into good and bad categories though. They're so much more complex than that, it's not as simple as saying the Starks are good and the Lannisters are bad.
 
Could we go back to pretending that the books don't exist in this thread?
I understand that book readers might want to share their emotions back then and now, but there is another thread for that.
 
That's just it though. It's like why? How would Harry Potter have been if you killed off Dumbledore first book and then killed Harry, Hermione and Ron in the next books and so by the time you were at the end, it's just Dudleys Durrett against all the Slytherins or Voldemort or something. What's left?

I usually watch episodes 2-3 times after they air to take it all in, but I can't for this. Seeing what happens to Talisa and baby Ned Stark or whatever get stabbed like that, seeing Cat cry for Robb only to see him die and then get her throat slit.

Please read this.
 
Okay I've calmed down a bit.

1. Arya is like poison to her family. She was around when Ned died, and then shows up just as her mom and brother die. She needs to keep away from every other Stark less they be killed.

2. FUCK NO I'M NOT CALMED DOWN! FUCK THIS MAN!

If this had happened to Daenerys, I'd probably be reacting the same way.
 
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I was in such a good mood earlier too. Still trying to process everything that happened. Arya is going to morph into a cold blooded psychopath, get some training from the Hound and start fucking shit up girl.
 
I can't believe people are separating characters in this show into good and bad categories though. They're so much more complex than that, it's not as simple as saying the Starks are good and the Lannisters are bad.

Uh dont know about the books, but the way they have been portrayed on the show is just that.
 
I can't believe people are separating characters in this show into good and bad categories though. They're so much more complex than that, it's not as simple as saying the Starks are good and the Lannisters are bad.

Oh, no, I can say that House Lannister is fucking terrible without any distinction whatsoever.

I know it goes much, much deeper than that, but they're still fucking terrible.
 
It's going to be harder for them to stop because HBO actually keeps a regular schedule. Book readers who said "I'm going to stop reading this shit!" after Storm of Swords actually meant it. Because there was nothing to read for years after that! Fffff. Lol.

I almost tore my book in half when I read it lol
 
I wonder if the wife and the rest of the women were in on it too? Come to think of it, they did scurry Edmure out of the room rather quickly.
 
IIRC two weeks ago you guys were complaining that nothing was happening and the plot was at a standstill...well...here you go.
 
Oh, no, I can say that House Lannister is fucking terrible without any distinction whatsoever.

I know it goes much, much deeper than that, but they're still fucking terrible.
Jaime and Tyrion have been great characters so far. Jaime especially has gone through so much redemption in my eyes this season.
 
Harry Potter was the main character his name is in the title of the books. Remember when you thought Ned was the main character? Now remember when you thought Robb was? Maybe you should adjust your perceptions?

The Starks were the focus of the show early on and they have been portrayed to be honorable and good. Fuck, they even have a heroic theme that plays whenever you see thei house sigil. There is a reason why people are attached to them. They are the most "good" of all the houses on the show. It's very obvious
 
Because harry potter is about SHOCK AND AWE harry potter. Game of Thrones is NOT about the starks. It's not about the lannisters. It's about westeros and across the sea and all the people in it equally.
Right, but the focus of the series so far has clearly been three dominant houses (Baratheon, Lannister, Stark) with all others orbiting about those. Baratheon is just Stannis, who seems in religious and moral turmoil, as well as disempowered after his failed attempt on King's Landing. Stark just got decimated. And Lannister ... well, I'm only caring about Tyrion, frankly.

So I think the current framing of the series kind of sets people up for this. Not sure how it works in the books, naturally.

Your comment does make a ton of sense, however, when you think that the Targaryens have to come back into this at some point. The series really has been global, but Dany's basically carrying an entire house by herself, and can't really hold up to the drama over in Westeros. (IMO, natch.)
 
What the hell was lord bolton doing there? And did he kill rob for not marrying his daughters the first time? Thats stupid. What about his uncle that went pee? Or that guy with the bedding?

You could say anything you want about GOT, but at least they won't end a season with a cliffhanger *Cough* Breaking Bad *Cough*.
 
I knew some fuckery was afoot when Rains of Castamere started playing but my brain completely rejected what came next. Even killed off the fucking dire wolf.

9th episode megaton streak continues.
 
I can't believe people are separating characters in this show into good and bad categories though. They're so much more complex than that, it's not as simple as saying the Starks are good and the Lannisters are bad.

that's why i named individuals, instead of house names. obviously every character has a certain personality, and many place much higher importance on values and ethics. tyrion is not walder frey, lol. i absolutely think there are many characters to "root for" here. i was just responding to the complaints that the starks are the heroes and they keep dying, which clearly isn't true and is a really shitty complaint.
 
I daresay it was simply the result of pissing off Walder Frey. Dude wanted his daughter to marry the King. Would you setlle for the King's uncle?

That's the thing, I'm not even mad about it because it all makes sense.

You promise this man that one of his MANY girls is gonna tie him to the King, use him, go against your promise after using him and try to give him a shitty sub when you could pulled a Imp?!? Yeeeeaaaah ... he's not gonna be happy.

That's why I thought Rob was gonna pick a wife at the start, his marriage aint official from what I can tell.

Now the old man gets to have his revenge and get in good with the Crazy-Camp by saying "I killed Rob and fucked over your enemy! We good?".

But i still wanna know what that curse was all about. Could it be that the curse caused Rob to make this chucky-fuck move of not saying "Sorry, things gotta bit lonely out there but NOW I'm ready to own up to our arrangement! You get yo king so that we can move forward and stump some ass!"? Or was Rob fully decided on saying "Fuck you! I'm getting with THIS girl for LOVE! :D" before that?
 
Uh dont know about the books, but the way they have been portrayed on the show is just that.
Not really man. Tyrion is a Lannister and he's a fan favourite. Jaime has gone through a redemption arc that was hinted at even in the first season, and for older characters even people like Drogo were assumed bad at the start until they showed more of him.

These are human characters with all kinds of reasons and motivations for what they're doing.
 
Why the hell are some people giving some of us who took it hard a bad time? We all have different tastes and feelings you know. Maybe I was naive but I thought Robb would take up his father's burden and carry the Stark mantle further, get justice for his death, defeat Tywin and the Lannisters. I'm sorry if I don't pick up on the real life comparisons or intrigue. I'm sorry if I don't brush off major character deaths easily. I know the world is a fucked up place and this shit probably happens all the time, but I watch to escape sometimes. I don't need a reminder about how 'evil' most likely always wins.

Relevant example, Charles Dance in Last Action Hero, he comes into the real world and says to Arnolds character, in this world the bad guys can win.

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That's how I feel right now.
 
The Starks were the focus of the show early on and they have been portrayed to be honorable and good. Fuck, they even have a heroic theme that plays whenever you see thei house sigil. There is a reason why people are attached to them. They are the most "good" of all the houses on the show. It's very obvious

Rob Stark is a pretty terrible leader which lead to all this.
 
Yeah, Robb almost certainly would've had Walder Frey killed for breaking his oath so I don't feel bad for him. I'm more upset for Catelyn and the fact that it is such a huge boost for the Lannisters
 
That's just it though. It's like why? How would Harry Potter have been if you killed off Dumbledore first book and then killed Harry, Hermione and Ron in the next books and so by the time you were at the end, it's just Dudleys Durrett against all the Slytherins or Voldemort or something. What's left?

I usually watch episodes 2-3 times after they air to take it all in, but I can't for this. Seeing what happens to Talisa and baby Ned Stark or whatever get stabbed like that, seeing Cat cry for Robb only to see him die and then get her throat slit.

Not all stories are or should be the same.
 
and also, i don't understand why people are complaining about all "the heroes" dying. this isn't fucking harry potter good v. evil shit.

I think most people understand this, but ever since the death of Ned people were holding out that Rob would avenge his father. So to see him bite the dust, just puts another heavy blow against the Starks. Things as of yet are seemingly lopsided in regards to major deaths.
 
The Starks were the focus of the show early on and they have been portrayed to be honorable and good. Fuck, they even have a heroic theme that plays whenever you see thei house sigil. There is a reason why people are attached to them. They are the most "good" of all the houses on the show. It's very obvious

It's called a red herring. When people have a strong reaction to a character dying it means they liked the character and it was written well.

Wait, wasn't the show supposed to have a two week break?

It just ended.
 
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