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Game of Thrones: Spoiler reaction to Season 3 - Episode NINE!!!!
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This is both incorrect and stupid.
I think Jon Snuh is kinda terrible. I love Book Jon. Show Jon is such a dull dude. Casting director knows nothing.
What is incorrect and what is stupid?
Its not completely incorrect.
He chose "love" over keeping his word. He died for it.
I can only imagine what folks are feeling if they didn't know this scene was coming.
That said, after book 3 I have completely lost interest in the series and the books.
Too long and wordy.
I was listening to their interview with The Treatment a while ago and I thought it was the Ned scene in the first book. To be honest I wouldn't mind them splitting off from the book narrative if it stops them meandering as much as the later books, it would be great to know nothing for a change and for George to have time to write properly. It feels to me the only things I'm looking forward to now is the politics that goes on in King's Landing.
Yeah, I've been seriously contemplating reading the books since the first season aired. After tonight, I don't think waiting for the next season to find out what happens will be remotely possible.
Stellar episode, stellar acting and some of the best tv I've seen in a long time! I definitely need some payback for the Starks at some point.
I don't get why everyone is going on about Stannis, really what's to like? Bedding with an evil witch who births demons while locking up the only sane friend the guy has. I'm sure there is more in store for his character, but for now he gets a hell no from me.
Stellar episode, stellar acting and some of the best tv I've seen in a long time! I definitely need some payback for the Starks at some point.
I don't get why everyone is going on about Stannis, really what's to like? Bedding with an evil witch who births demons while locking up the only sane friend the guy has. I'm sure there is more in store for his character, but for now he gets a hell no from me.
Baron Doggystyle von Woof
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I am shocked. Amazing show.
Lets hope khaleesi is gonna fuck shit up.
#teamtargaryen hollaaaaaa
Lets hope khaleesi is gonna fuck shit up.
#teamtargaryen hollaaaaaa
Been wondering about that too. Other than willingness to charge into battle with his own men, he's been nothing respectable IN THE SHOW.
A religious fanatic who cheats on his wife and ignores his best friend. He's mean and uncharismatic. He uses assassins to kill his brother.
I honestly think his fans must have knowledge from other books, because the show has made him out to be a dishonorable asshole.
Discotheque
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i think he's kind of boring in the books. i like him in the show though. everything you said is actually to his benefit in this universe
he's willing to do bad things TO WIN. the starks wouldn't do anything like that and look at where that's gotten them....lol
also him and davos are very stoic but also some of my favorite performances in this series.
honor's for losers clearly
fierrotlepou
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In which book does this happen? Book 3? 4?
He doesn't ignore his best friends, his best friend is one of the few who has the balls to tell him when he's doing something wrong. Sometimes he doesn't want to listen to that, sometimes he does. And he didn't use assassins to kill his brother, he did it himself by controlling the shadow that Melisandre conjured (it's supposed to be Stannis own shadow if I've understood everything correctly).
What a bizarre phenomenon this has been. The sheer...righteousness at seeing people miserable?
I think the word you're looking for is schadenfreude.
What a bizarre phenomenon this has been. The sheer...righteousness at seeing people miserable?
Yeah, I really don't get the smugness.
It was him personally, it just wasn't him physically.
I always hated that they changed that part. In the book it's pretty clear he married her because he took her honor.
In the show they are like "we are so much in love!!!!!! hey babe take a look at my battleplans"
It's hinted at in the book. As if he didn't really know what he was doing, like a dream.
I thought it was a good change. Makes for much more effective drama, especially with how the show bigged up Robb. What Book Robb does is just too childish, which befits him since he is a child in the books. It's silly and stupid.
As someone who has read the books: MUAHAHAHAHAHA GIVE ME YOUR TEARS
I've been waiting for this since the season started.
I don't get people like you. There was the same kind of posts in the official no books spoilers thread, just book readers acting like jerks. What's the reason to even post this?
Nemesis121
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That was episode 9 one more to go and i have a feeling it won't top that...
Pai Pai Master
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It wasn't as faithful to the book version as I had hoped, but even knowing what was coming it was still so hard to watch.
Such a brilliant performance by Fairley. I remember the feeling of being completely unable to function after putting the book down...she really sold it.
Such a brilliant performance by Fairley. I remember the feeling of being completely unable to function after putting the book down...she really sold it.
If we cut away all the passive aggresiveness in your post you'd be close to the definition, yes.
GRRM establishes that in the book right away after it happened. Can't say I'm too fond of Stannis but with the Starks and their allies defated there aren't many people worth cheering on, maybe that's why he has fans? I can respect that he doesn't shy away from doing the dirty work himself, too.
People like me? You mean people who don't say anything so we don't spoil it for anyone?
David Incorporated Esq.
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Book readers did the same thing to other book readers too. It's really just that we went through some horrible feelings reading that section and it's fun to see people going through the same thing. It both validates how we felt reading it and we get to relive a little bit of that initial shock through people new to the story.
If you sit down and watch it with a friend who doesn't know it's coming you'll probably be watching them for their reaction too.
Greywind was howling and trying to get out of the pen he was in to warn Robb, but he couldn't escape.
UnluckyKate
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well, the good news is, more screen time for all the good characters with actual interesting stories.
And oh joy that spy is dead.
Not that it matters now
And oh joy that spy is dead.
Not that it matters now
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Wait, what?
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I don't think you people get it...All of us who read A Storm of Swords did so at various times. We can talk to one another about it, but it's usually long after the fact and after the shock has worn off (and it does wear off...and you do go back).
This is completely different though, this is as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. The Alderaan of what you thought this story was about just blew up, and we all knew it was going to happen, we kept our mouths shut and watched your expectations burn. It's not smugness or superiority, it's simply the anticipation of the outrage and tears, and then the payoff.
This is completely different though, this is as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. The Alderaan of what you thought this story was about just blew up, and we all knew it was going to happen, we kept our mouths shut and watched your expectations burn. It's not smugness or superiority, it's simply the anticipation of the outrage and tears, and then the payoff.
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We just got finished watching it. And like most others that didn't know it was coming...
Speechless. DAMN.
Incredible episode.
Speechless. DAMN.
Incredible episode.
READ THE BOOKS. Heck, read the Dunk and Egg short stories too.
Honestly, I don't know how you people can watch the HBO show. All the changes it makes result in a worse story with less depth and character. They skip battle scenes, add in gratuitous sex scenes (while skipping over the relevant ones from the books), combine events, avoid needed backstory, and remove all subtlety (Renly is gay?!).
I mean, I get it, but... what if I told you that there was an even better version of Game of Thrones out there? Why wouldn't you jump at the chance to experience it?
Kai Dracon
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I'm not a book reader, but while the scene was shocking I have a great amount of admiration for the plot turn after letting it all sink in.
Saying that GRRM is a mean old man, Joss Whedon just kills people to be cruel, etc, doesn't do it justice. A lot of world-weary and wise writers, including Stephen King, do this exact thing because it evokes the same emotions we experience in real life. Life isn't fair, death is real, and our romanticism must co-exist with the fact that life can end at any moment.
Besides, these deaths weren't even random. I've read complaints about justifications for Robb's actions being slightly different in the books, but in the show we have here: Robb was playing with fire in a brutal world. And he was merely worried about losing the Freys' military support. He was so wrapped up in his campaign he didn't even consider how seriously he had breached honor with Walder Frey. Pretty much marched his entire party into an execution chamber he should have seen coming.
I wouldn't be surprised if by the bitter end of the entire saga, certain characters have as much of a happy ending as possible in this world. And it will honestly mean something because the realities of life have stacked the odds against that.
Saying that GRRM is a mean old man, Joss Whedon just kills people to be cruel, etc, doesn't do it justice. A lot of world-weary and wise writers, including Stephen King, do this exact thing because it evokes the same emotions we experience in real life. Life isn't fair, death is real, and our romanticism must co-exist with the fact that life can end at any moment.
Besides, these deaths weren't even random. I've read complaints about justifications for Robb's actions being slightly different in the books, but in the show we have here: Robb was playing with fire in a brutal world. And he was merely worried about losing the Freys' military support. He was so wrapped up in his campaign he didn't even consider how seriously he had breached honor with Walder Frey. Pretty much marched his entire party into an execution chamber he should have seen coming.
I wouldn't be surprised if by the bitter end of the entire saga, certain characters have as much of a happy ending as possible in this world. And it will honestly mean something because the realities of life have stacked the odds against that.
TheClimaxan
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I knew it was coming and it still felt like a kick in the balls. Brutal, yet masterful storytelling.
BFIB
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Agreed. Sure, I lurked the non-book spoilers just because this event really is shocking, but I wanted to see what the non-book readers thoughts on what was going to happen.
Seeing some book readers muck up the thread with blatant trolling and the "I know something you don't!" attitude was uncalled for last night.
I had it spoiled for me so I guess I'll never know how I would have felt without that. Itunes is slow updating the shows so I wouldn't have seen it until Wednesday. Seeing this thread at the top of OT I knew something big had gone down then some prick openly spoiled it in the WoW forums so I watched it on paytv.
Amazing episode though. Amazingly acted and shot. The last few scenes were captivating. One of the best moments in tv I've ever seen.
Amazing episode though. Amazingly acted and shot. The last few scenes were captivating. One of the best moments in tv I've ever seen.
What drivel. The show is great television. It often matches, sometimes surpasses and never strays far from the quality of the books.
Honestly, I don't know how you still can't understand - after nigh on three series of the show - that television and books *need* to take different approaches to storytelling.
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What a bizarre phenomenon this has been. The sheer...righteousness at seeing people miserable?
I read the books and still feel pretty down.
If anything, knowing what was going to happen made it all the worse. I was on the edge of my seat throughout the episode.
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In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
im so fuckin pissed
i demand thw worse kinda vengance
my Wolves cant go down like that
i demand thw worse kinda vengance
my Wolves cant go down like that
LAUGHTREY
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I read the books before the show. I like the show more. Checkmate.
Re:show and book discussion.
Yes, the two should be different, and yes, it's only natural that everyone will enjoy one more than the other, but I think if you are the type of person who gets absolutely furious at the spoilers and is paranoid about any and all related posts, it might be good for your sanity's sake, if nothing else, to just enjoy the story via the books so you no longer need to fear. (and, hey, you might even find you like the books more as a lot of us do) It's sad that that might be the only way you stay unspoiled and I really would like for all of you to be able to get through the whole series, regardless of the medium you prefer to experience it through first, but I think it's something to consider.
I'm not a big Stannis fan, but he's probably the most lawful character in the series outside Eddard. He's incredibly strict, which leads to his mean reputation, but he can be charismatic when needed. (As in the battle) Outside of his affair with Melisandre, which is complicated by the fact that he views as a war effort almost and his wife even approves of it, he hasn't really broken any rules. You have to remember that he comes at all of this with the attitude that a) he is the rightful king of Westeros and all those that oppose him are indeed usurpers worthy of the punishment for treason (straight up lawful- wouldn't even concede the throne to his brother even though his brother was family, had his bannerman, and would have been a more loved ruler because it would be wrong for him to get the throne first- not sure this distinction is clear, but duty and what's right are genuinely the key motivating factors for him, not a lust for power) and b) he sincerely believes in R'hllor/the Red God now and his plan for him to save Westeros from a coming threat. If he has to resort to what seem like dishonorable tactics to accomplish his duty, he will, because he doesn't care if he is liked, he just cares that what needs to happens happens. It's not like he didn't give Renly fair warning either. (which in his mind is already a incredibly generous- Renly is a traitor at that point and even extending that chance is more than merciful)
Yes, the two should be different, and yes, it's only natural that everyone will enjoy one more than the other, but I think if you are the type of person who gets absolutely furious at the spoilers and is paranoid about any and all related posts, it might be good for your sanity's sake, if nothing else, to just enjoy the story via the books so you no longer need to fear. (and, hey, you might even find you like the books more as a lot of us do) It's sad that that might be the only way you stay unspoiled and I really would like for all of you to be able to get through the whole series, regardless of the medium you prefer to experience it through first, but I think it's something to consider.
I'm not a big Stannis fan, but he's probably the most lawful character in the series outside Eddard. He's incredibly strict, which leads to his mean reputation, but he can be charismatic when needed. (As in the battle) Outside of his affair with Melisandre, which is complicated by the fact that he views as a war effort almost and his wife even approves of it, he hasn't really broken any rules. You have to remember that he comes at all of this with the attitude that a) he is the rightful king of Westeros and all those that oppose him are indeed usurpers worthy of the punishment for treason (straight up lawful- wouldn't even concede the throne to his brother even though his brother was family, had his bannerman, and would have been a more loved ruler because it would be wrong for him to get the throne first- not sure this distinction is clear, but duty and what's right are genuinely the key motivating factors for him, not a lust for power) and b) he sincerely believes in R'hllor/the Red God now and his plan for him to save Westeros from a coming threat. If he has to resort to what seem like dishonorable tactics to accomplish his duty, he will, because he doesn't care if he is liked, he just cares that what needs to happens happens. It's not like he didn't give Renly fair warning either. (which in his mind is already a incredibly generous- Renly is a traitor at that point and even extending that chance is more than merciful)
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