Sony E3 press conference; June 10th 6PM PT/9PM ET

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There's only one megaton that could be big enough to make faces melt: chance of FFVII remake coming back to save us all? lol

Probably meltdowns from a group that was neglected for quite a number of E3s, but will still make people happy overall.
 
Every E3 I get hyped for
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Every E3 I know it won't happen.

other than that my biggest 1st party hope is Uncharted 4.
also a new Socom would be nice.
 
Naughty Dog and Square Enix collaborating to make FF7 remake.


That would be the biggest megaton in gaming history. but that will never happen. :(
 
Back on the hype train!!! Thuway and Proelite saying they've heard Xbone's GPU clocks will be even further reduced from their current state. I said gawwwwd damn!!
 
Jumping in real quick for a quick question.

Has there been any talk of everquest next showing up or being ready/playable?
 
lol What is this from? Also, I'm sorry to say but Verendus really did suck the hype out of the room. I wasn't expecting like 10 megatons in a row, but even the info he gave doesn't inspire confidence. The dream is dead. :(
Early victim of the hype-train right here. Or do I detect sarcasm?
 
lol What is this from? Also, I'm sorry to say but Verendus really did suck the hype out of the room. I wasn't expecting like 10 megatons in a row, but even the info he gave doesn't inspire confidence. The dream is dead. :(

Kristen Wiig from an SNL skit, I think? The character doesn't look familiar to me though...

And honestly, he said it was gonna be a good show, just not megaton after megaton, which makes sense. They have other venues to show off new titles at later in the year too, you know? Gotta spread out the goods.

I also never understood the complaint about made up names in FFXIII. It's a Fantasy game. Every FF game, and pretty much every fantasy story in general has built their own worlds using new concepts and words to give the world its own unique life. Were the words fal'Cie and l'Cie just too much for people to handle?

I never understood that either... if you take the in-universe concepts and lingo out, where's the 'fantasy'?
 
Yeah, I agree. The fans are extremely vocal but I'm not sure how many people would actually buy it. Certainly it would clear a couple million I would expect, but that's not that many these days.

What FF really needs is a world that people are excited for. No convoluted narrative with random names no one cares to comprehend. Just a big, explorable, believable (when I say believable I do not dismiss the fantastical) world that engrosses you, with a simple overall narrative and lots of optional side plots that support it but don't tangle it up. Characters that we actually care about would be nice too.

I disagree. Part of the allure of FInal Fantasy, at least to me, is being engaged in a complex narrative, and watching it unravel with all of its intricacies. Final Fantasy hasn't really aimed for a simple narrative since the earlier SNES days. I'm not saying they always succeed in their execution, but when they do the results are pretty spectacular. I don't want them to turn it into a WRPG with a weak overarching plot, sacrificing narrative and character development for the sake of openness.

I also never understood the complaint about made up names in FFXIII. It's a Fantasy game. Every FF game, and pretty much every fantasy story in general has built their own worlds using new concepts and words to give the world its own unique life. Were the words fal'Cie and l'Cie just too much for people to handle?

Personally, I would love to see a new game that returns to the style of the PS1 FF games. I would also be happy with something in FFX's style as well -- which isn't too far off from FFXIII's style, except FFX was much better executed with more gameplay content and a more compelling narrative with a better script.
 
lol What is this from? Also, I'm sorry to say but Verendus really did suck the hype out of the room. I wasn't expecting like 10 megatons in a row, but even the info he gave doesn't inspire confidence. The dream is dead. :(

I don't think there's ever been an E3 with 'megaton after megaton.'
 
Imagine if one of the big three was going to commit suicide, so they blew every single megaton and any future announcements in one conference. Of course, all these games would never be released, because the company is going to die, but at the time, they made it presentable. This is the NeoGAF E3.
 
Back on the hype train!!! Thuway and Proelite saying they've heard Xbone's GPU clocks will be even further reduced from their current state. I said gawwwwd damn!!

Does it matter? They'll be getting at least 8.0 TFLOPS of computing power from the cloud.
 
Imagine if one of the big three was going to commit suicide, so they blew every single megaton and any future announcements in one conference. Of course, all these games would never be released, because the company is going to die, but at the time, they made it presentable. This is the NeoGAF E3.

That would be depressing as heck. Thankfully companies are not people so they don't commit suicide.
 
where ? when? it's gonna be lower than 1.2 TF?

It's in that "XBone UI Faked" thread:

I am not trying to bring out the MS Defense Force at me, but I've heard GPU clocks might be downgraded. 8-900 gigaflops for gaming. The APU is big. This isn't 100% confirmed though and is being done to improve yields.

CBoat do you mind adding anything?

Hmm, I've been hearing some of this myself. It'll be hilarious if MS tries to sell a more expensive gaming machine with 1/2 of the perf. Knowing people's buying habits, they still might beat Sony on the market though. :/

Also someone has suggested to me sony is doing the same, but I've heard from Sony devs the machine is very mature and not facing the issues Xbox One is. Microsoft started late.

I wouldn't worry about Sony. In fact I am hearing the issue is because ES RAM is causing issues.
 
Thuway just posted some insane news in the Xbone fake UI thread. Rumors of Xbone GPU being downgraded....
Sony's going to have a field day this gen

edit: damn beaten hard
 
Thuway just posted some insane news in the Xbone fake UI thread. Rumors of Xbone GPU being downgraded....
Sony's going to have a field day this gen

They'll just downplay it claiming cloud power makes up for any downgrade in the box
 
Thuway just posted some insane news in the Xbone fake UI thread. Rumors of Xbone GPU being downgraded....
Sony's going to have a field day this gen

Rumour has it MS is going the apple route of having newer hardware every few years so it sort of makes sense they are low balling it now. If in 2 years when the Xbox One: Two is out and is 2x as powerful things will get interesting. People will be angry, some people will be happy. Will be interesting to see if console gaming can be done that way.

Oh there will be some fun times ahead this gen.
 
Thuway just posted some insane news in the Xbone fake UI thread. Rumors of Xbone GPU being downgraded....
Sony's going to have a field day this gen

edit: damn beaten hard

Is Thuaway reliable? If that's true then DAMN Xbone really can't catch a break.

I'm expecting alot of first party reveals and game demos. Destiny getting some good air time. Some 3rd party announcements and a few surprises. Keeping hype tempered. Sony has to show something for GC and TGS.

Question for you guys. When do you think we'll get a release date and price reveal?
 
If that downgrade rumor is true, then it'll just negatively affect PS4 ports, won't it?

Wouldn't that mean that any port from another lower powered system performs better on PS4?.. Or... Would that depend on the way the information processes through the PS4 vs the other system meaning, it would be case by case?
 
Rumour has it MS is going the apple route of having newer hardware every few years so it sort of makes sense they are low balling it now. If in 2 years when the Xbox One: Two is out and is 2x as powerful things will get interesting. People will be angry, some people will be happy.

Oh there will be some fun times ahead this gen.

I guess they will subsidize the price permanently going forward and live will no longer be optional if this turns out to be the case
 
Wouldn't that mean that any port from another lower powered system performs better on PS4?.. Or... Would that depend on the way the information processes through the PS4 vs the other system meaning, it would be case by case?
Yea, would probably perform better, but I don't think it would look as good as it could have, given the X1 wasn't downgraded. Of course, it's still a rumor.
 
Nah just going into this with severely low expectations now. I'll expect FFXV but that's about it.

This is still going to be the biggest E3 in years, announcement wise, that should be enough to keep you excited.

Personally if we get FFXV, Ready at Dawn's game, SSM new IP and a WW launch this year at a decent price ($400) that will be enough to make it a fantastic show in my eyes.
 
Is Thuaway reliable? If that's true then DAMN Xbone really can't catch a break.

I'm expecting alot of first party reveals and game demos. Destiny getting some good air time. Some 3rd party announcements and a few surprises. Keeping hype tempered. Sony has to show something for GC and TGS.

Question for you guys. When do you think we'll get a release date and price reveal?

Thuway might be one of the most reliable insiders around. He leaked quite a lot of both consoles. He did have one and other missteps, but he's been mostly right.

Anyway, I'm kind of impressed. We've gone from a point where everyone thought that MS would have the most powerful console and we're now in a point where Sony's console is considerably much more powerful than MS'. Jesus.
 
If what Thuway said is true, the meltdown will be of epic proportion and with Sony already having the best graphics crown from the past generation things could get ugly.
 
It'll be a further extension of the current situation, a slight downclock isn't going to massively change the architecture of multiplatform games. It will make PS4 games run and look that much better though... the next Xbox might end up getting called the 720 by gamers for a whole new reason.
 
Thuway might be one of the most reliable insiders around. He leaked quite a lot of both consoles. He did have one and other missteps, but he's been mostly right.

Anyway, I'm kind of impressed. We've gone from a point where everyone thought that MS would have the most powerful console and we're now in a point where Sony's console is considerably much more powerful than MS'. Jesus.

and could possibly be cheaper as well.
 
What would be the real world performance difference between 1.8 TFLOPS and 800-900 GFLOPS? Are we talking 1080p/60fps vs. 720/60fps? I want to know how much of a boat anchor the Xbone would be for multiplatform games.
 
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