I didn't say it was a colossal failure already, I was chafing at the idea that "selling millions" was a big deal. If we look back in 2025 and this thing sold 20 million units, it would be a disaster for MS.
MS Cancels 1 on 1 Interviews with GB, GI.biz, Tapezilla...MCV?: "Scheduling conflict"
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I didn't say it was a colossal failure already, I was chafing at the idea that "selling millions" was a big deal. If we look back in 2025 and this thing sold 20 million units, it would be a disaster for MS.
TechnoBuffalo: "As it stands right now, Microsoft is not taking our requests for an appointment at E3. Even further, fellow game writers have said the Microsoft is cancelling their already arranged appointments."
I know, you just meant that success is relative to budget and expectations, see also S-E crying over 6.5 million while Atlus throws a party for 200k. I was calling it a colossal failure already because, well, that's what it is going to be.
I hope you're right. I hope that any other console that goes through with these or similar policies is also a failure. The only way to stop it is to not buy it, and to convince others to not buy it.
I could probably convince a few people not to throw their money away chasing status, but, well, is anyone taking bets on which celebrity or celebrities will, in five months' time, be tweeting about how excited they are for exclusive Call of Duty DLC on the XBone?
And even if the XBone doesn't sell, it doesn't mean these policies will go away. EA will probably say it failed because it wasn't reactionary enough.
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
It's amazing how quickly polygon is becoming the butt of all jokes.
Well deserved anyways.
base shagohod
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maquiladora
Member
Absolutly outstanding D:
lol simple. they are trying to escape negative questions about their system. i believe MS is trying to let all the negative things about the xbox one out right now before E3 and try to impress the media with their exclusive big games at E3. by time they think people will start to adapt these facts about the system and 6 months from now, it will be something we are used to.
i honestly think they are wrong. it will hurt them badly.
but LOL @ the lie " scheduling conflict", go eat shit man. i am surprised why you are not fired yet..
Uno Venova
Banned
I can't believe people bought, and even wanted to close the thread because Major said scheduling conflicts.
Ah sheeeeeeit!!!
If Sony were to go all the way with DRM in the same way Microsoft is then it IS possible... but it seems more likely Sony would just stick with RFID stuff, and honestly that IS vastly preferable to this, so I think it's simply going to blow up in their face period so long as a lot of people hear AND they're not just all apathetic as hell.
I'd worry about people who aren't online and don't hear this, but I guess they'll just find out in store or take it back immediately afterwards!
Are there any detailed rumors as to how this would work exactly?
PlanetSmasher
Banned
Man. If Polygon is salty about the Xbone, you know something is seriously wrong. Yikes.
Its pretty entertaining to see Microsoft going down.
I don't really care about them anymore as their game philosophy is getting very disgusting in recent years. All they care are mainstream sales with annual sequels of Call of Duty, Halo, Forza and more Kinects. And now they even banded with the mega publishers to do awful things to consumers.
I miss the old Microsoft, especially the one around 2006 when they tried their hardest with new exclusive IP (1st or 3rd party) like Lost Planet, Gears, Dead Rising, Blue Dragon, Shadow Complex, Mass Effect etc.
Now? Just sick. And they still charge people to play online when the other 2 console makers are free or with much better system (PS+).
I don't really care about them anymore as their game philosophy is getting very disgusting in recent years. All they care are mainstream sales with annual sequels of Call of Duty, Halo, Forza and more Kinects. And now they even banded with the mega publishers to do awful things to consumers.
I miss the old Microsoft, especially the one around 2006 when they tried their hardest with new exclusive IP (1st or 3rd party) like Lost Planet, Gears, Dead Rising, Blue Dragon, Shadow Complex, Mass Effect etc.
Now? Just sick. And they still charge people to play online when the other 2 console makers are free or with much better system (PS+).
I was so supremely upset when I first heard about all the DRM shit. Now all this shit backfiring in their faces brings a huge smile to my face. I want this to be the biggest blunder in Consumer Electronics history. Hopefully I'll still be able to buy normal games with the PS4. I'm almost sure of it. Even if Sony had plans to do something similar, no doubt they'd make more money now with no DRM from all the crossover from fed up gamers.
No amount of PR, or canceling prearranged interviews and events is going to make up for this. Say goodbye to the hundred+ million you likely spent developing this DRM bullshit, or say goodbye to your foothold in the console pie.
It's just blunder after blunder after blunder.
No amount of PR, or canceling prearranged interviews and events is going to make up for this. Say goodbye to the hundred+ million you likely spent developing this DRM bullshit, or say goodbye to your foothold in the console pie.
It's just blunder after blunder after blunder.
lol at 'scheduling conflicts'. hahaha.
it's like that scene in TDKR with gordon in the hospital wanting to send all the cops into the tunnels.
"we can't send every cop into those tunnels! people will get suspicious!"
JGL: "so..... 'training exercise', then?"
my gawd, someone needs to make a .gif.
Looking at Skylanders gives you a good idea of what to expect I'd think. But beyond whatever you can dig out of the patent filling, no, there hasn't been any concrete details on how it'd have worked.
Forceatowulf
G***n S**n*bi
Man oh man. Watching the blatantly obvious marketers on GAF, and in this thread in particular, get the ban pipe is amusing as fuck.
I don't know how people still have respect for GiantBomb after everything that's happened since May 21'st though. They have been amazingly soft and forgiving and apologetic to MS the last few weeks, and seemed like they were trying to ignore the NoDRM movement when even major mainstream publications were writing about it. Writing off Neogaf as nothing more than Sony fanboys and shit. Even Polygon (MOTHER FUCKING POLYGON) is starting to give MS a piece of their mind lately... yeah, Polygon has more journalistic integrity than GiantBomb right now. God damn.
What I'm trying to say is; GiantBomb can EAD. And I mean that from the heart.
I don't know how people still have respect for GiantBomb after everything that's happened since May 21'st though. They have been amazingly soft and forgiving and apologetic to MS the last few weeks, and seemed like they were trying to ignore the NoDRM movement when even major mainstream publications were writing about it. Writing off Neogaf as nothing more than Sony fanboys and shit. Even Polygon (MOTHER FUCKING POLYGON) is starting to give MS a piece of their mind lately... yeah, Polygon has more journalistic integrity than GiantBomb right now. God damn.
What I'm trying to say is; GiantBomb can EAD. And I mean that from the heart.
No it wouldn't
Ninja Moomin
Banned
Major nelson is really starting to disgust me.
pr mouth piece of the worst kind.
pr mouth piece of the worst kind.
Fahrenheit
Banned
Sure GiantBomb is funny but they have no clue what the hell they are talking about on anything.
any game site defend this yet?
Syphon Filter
Member
werent they giving MS shit in that recent vid? patrick and vinny didnt like the drm at all.jeff and ryan also seemed that way.
Giant Bomb will probably come with a spin this weekend.
Angelus Errare
Banned
I don't know, Jeff was taking a shitload of shots at MS during their Marvel Heroes let's play. Every joke was a "one time use only" or "preferred partner" joke. Then was ribbing with everyone that they should be careful or MS won't give them an interview.
Syphon Filter
Member
no one is getting an interview.
Smiles and Cries
Member
keeping a close eye on this, all the backlash in the world will not mean shit if everyone ends up buying a shit load of Xbox Ones this holiday only then will we know if all this backlash had any real impact to change the course of console DRM
Angelus Errare
Banned
Right and that's why Jeff was being sarcastic about not getting interviews. Like as an example, Ryan was playing MH and was confused about some gameplay mechanic and made a joke "one time use" and Jeff was like "Whoa, better watch out, or MS will cancel your interview!"
LQX
Member
Heh, that video did not impress me in the least. Seems sort of "oh shit we kind of dropped the ball covering or caring about the consumer concerns about the impact of the DRM of XB1, lets save face and pretend to be concerned in this video".
Even the cancellations of the meetings still did not clue Jeff in that something might be afoot as he is boiling it down to a regular occurrences while it is clear MS is saying fuck all, we are intentionally limiting talking about any of this as much as possible. Everyone started picking up on how fucking shady it all is, meanwhile someone from GiantBomb is again making excuses.
DC1
Member
Doesn't Matter
TV (Nickelodeon) will not shun advertisements deals or promotion bucs.
The impact would only materialize when kids discover that the One isn't cool/best value for their dollar.
DC1
Member
More like "Let's just get pass E3 and then start our messaging/advertisement push"
ShogunDarius
Member
That must have been one hell of a scheduling conflict, I'd have more respect for MS if they were just honest about what they are doing and way.
NullPointer
Member
We're reading this all wrong.
They are scheduling the conflict. Smart. Thats how Sun Tzu would do it.
They are scheduling the conflict. Smart. Thats how Sun Tzu would do it.
Kill Your Masters
Member
Wow, I never would've thought you can go full Kutaragi again, but MS is proving me wrong.
Nah, Polygon is just coming to the conclusion why the interviews were canceled.
JohnMadden
Member
But these were scheduled interviews/sessions. Really indicates back pedaling and damage control.
It's very obvious what's going on after they published the articles on licensing, privacy etc.
Microsoft wants to put all that behind them and talk only about games at E3.
Journalists, on the other hand, will primarily want to talk about those policies.
So to avoid outlets cluttering up their Xbox One coverage with fresh policy talk, they're cutting out contact with journalists altogether.
All that'll be left on these outlets is the carefully crafted pr from their conference and booth bots who can't answer policy questions. That is, if the outlets choose to play along with this strategy.
It's very, very clear after those articles' publications. Don't offer press a right of reply, put the head down, focus on games, and hope the policy talk peters out.
Microsoft wants to put all that behind them and talk only about games at E3.
Journalists, on the other hand, will primarily want to talk about those policies.
So to avoid outlets cluttering up their Xbox One coverage with fresh policy talk, they're cutting out contact with journalists altogether.
All that'll be left on these outlets is the carefully crafted pr from their conference and booth bots who can't answer policy questions. That is, if the outlets choose to play along with this strategy.
It's very, very clear after those articles' publications. Don't offer press a right of reply, put the head down, focus on games, and hope the policy talk peters out.
MS are not the first to backpedal and cancel some interviews.
MS has bad PR and does damage control. We see this all the time.
ShogunDarius
Member
While that does make sense, I really hope people don't forget about the policies in the long run
JohnMadden
Member
Not sure if I've ever seen a systematic mass cancellation of PR sessions like *this* though. I mean this is this industry's show. Correct me if I'm wrong though. It just doesn't seem like the standard tweaking of PR that goes on, it's more than that.