well, I posted just above him; I have ps3 and ps+.
Sony E3 press conference; June 10th 6PM PT/9PM ET
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well, I posted just above him; I have ps3 and ps+.
Future PhaZe
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i mean
at least MS would be able to have dedicated servers and "dat power of the cloud" as a compelling reason to pay for XBL
wtf will be sonys excuse for paying for online?
really hope this isnt true
at least MS would be able to have dedicated servers and "dat power of the cloud" as a compelling reason to pay for XBL
wtf will be sonys excuse for paying for online?
really hope this isnt true
You're right. There are hundreds of current/previous gen games and I've never played.
I'd rather replay the SNES catalog then have to ask permission from MS/Sony every day to play new games.
Confidence Man
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Fuck no.
As much as I hate Xbox Live at least they're going to have dedicated servers for every game making it at least somewhat justifiable.
As much as I hate Xbox Live at least they're going to have dedicated servers for every game making it at least somewhat justifiable.
Zekra Dezivad
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peaople were happy to pay on xbox live.
if sony charges for online play they will be true ***holes.
It's impossible to say how many Xboxes would have sold if Live was free, or how fewer PS3s would have sold if they charged.
Sony are clearly fine with not charging for it though, so it's just another thing they can boast about.
Krusenstern
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And what do you know?
BloodMoney
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Honestly, what were people expecting?
$30 a year is peanuts, that's 2 1/2 dollars per month.......
$60 a year is.... do the math... 5$ per month
i guess you all are entitled to cry about those numbers if you want.
Krisprolls
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Basic online gaming will stay free. They have zero reason to change that now that they're successful with PS+.
They'll just add more tiers for Gaikai and everything else.
Wouldn't make sense otherwise. We have been told since 2006 that online wouldn't be free, and look where we are today... Online gaming is still free.
They'll just add more tiers for Gaikai and everything else.
Wouldn't make sense otherwise. We have been told since 2006 that online wouldn't be free, and look where we are today... Online gaming is still free.
But it will be almost every third party publisher and they will be able to restrict where you can trade these games in at. Its not really gonna be a whole lot different then the used game stance on X1. I do think you wont have to have a 24 hour check in though which is a plus.
Black Republican
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the price seems fine, wow Kotaku got it right again! i said $499 for both consoles i bet but i might get the $529 ver with the camera and bigger hdd
BruiserBear
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I certainly wouldn't be shocked to see them lock a lot of those features behind a paywall, but I'm still not sold online play will be a part of it.
Free online play, but streaming gaikai etc is paid.
Yeah, at this point thurway 4 month old info might as well be 4 years old. No offense.
Bloody well hope it's not video sharing etc. PS+ is great value so I'll pay for it, but they should NOT be charging people to just play online. It's such a damn shame Microsoft got away with it, but Sony needs to understand that was only possible because Microsoft's online features had the 1up on Sony's.
BTW Folks, please, this is not coming from me - I heard this AFTER Kotaku and Kotaku has been right on this info all along, so please re read the link:
http://kotaku.com/5985356/source-th...d-youll-be-able-to-control-it-with-your-phone
and I hope I am wrong, and I do apologize if I'm ruffling any feathers, I don't mean to cause trouble. Mods I have edited all my posts. Old information is bad information and third hand at best.
http://kotaku.com/5985356/source-th...d-youll-be-able-to-control-it-with-your-phone
and I hope I am wrong, and I do apologize if I'm ruffling any feathers, I don't mean to cause trouble. Mods I have edited all my posts. Old information is bad information and third hand at best.
Stone Ocean
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Don't do that. Jump the gun, make noise, give feedback. Make it so if they are actually doing it they have the feedback that they should reconsider it.
Waiting for info won't make things better in a worst case scenario.
Sorc3r3r
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Let's hope.
Is the info u know recent?
If this were the case but with basic online play free then I'd happily buy the console and pay the $60 a year for the equivalent of PS+, but if online play is behind any sort of paywall then I won't be buying the console, at the very least for a couple of years, possibly never. It's a bit daft really I suppose, seeing as I'd pay for the next tier up, but I think online play should stay free and I won't support a company that charges for it.
I really hope Sony change their minds on this. I worry that MS have done so much to ruin the Xbone that Sony will feel they can get a way with a few dodgy things like this without having to worry too much about the competition.
Future PhaZe
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If anything PS+ makes it more likely that Sony will copy MS's used game policies if not make it worse.
I mean, we're talking about PS+ being a subscription service that gives you full games for free. Why on earth would developers give their games away for free with zero incentive in regards to used games or DRM models?
I mean, we're talking about PS+ being a subscription service that gives you full games for free. Why on earth would developers give their games away for free with zero incentive in regards to used games or DRM models?
bigboss370
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DRM left to publishers is the best we hoped for.
Yes Kagari! I love Thuway, but I need him to be wrong on this one. Not his fault if he is, old info after all.
FlyingTeacup
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way? ms has been doing it and plenty of people are willing to pay for it. having said that I still think basic online play would be free.
all those fancy share/streaming will be behind pay wall no doubt.
Yep.
maquiladora
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That article says
which contradicts the idea of a higher end model with the Eye included.
i hope you are korrect.
nah,you are a good "insider" just say you are not sure when you are not sure....
SenatorBot
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Kotaku's info is 4 months old, there's no reason to panic as of yet.
Not to mention Kagari has said online is free.
There's only 3 more days until all our questions are answered.
Yep. I trust what Kagari said.
zeopower6
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Sounds good, tbh.
Stone Ocean
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I'll gladly pay for any premium features beyond that if that's the case.
My speculation: Between the F2P games, PS3 and PSV online play being free, I don't think they will make it behind a paywall.
On the other hand, they will lock everything else behind a pay way even cross game chat, picture and video capture/uploads to get people to sign up to the lowest tier at least.
It doesn't make a financial sense to lock basic online gaming behind a paywall which will lock all the F2P games unless they put them under an exemption of some sort which will undermine their online paywall policy.
Edit: Oh and:
On the other hand, they will lock everything else behind a pay way even cross game chat, picture and video capture/uploads to get people to sign up to the lowest tier at least.
It doesn't make a financial sense to lock basic online gaming behind a paywall which will lock all the F2P games unless they put them under an exemption of some sort which will undermine their online paywall policy.
Edit: Oh and:
Crimson_Gold
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Microsoft introduced paying for online play, most people didn't have a problem with it. It worked well for Microsoft, rightfully. If anyone here has ever paid for Xbox Live, they are part of the problem. Previous 360 online gamers should have no problem paying for online play. It shafts the rest of us who hate it though. But in the end, the people willing to pay for it create a bigger amount of revenue than those that don't. Its too late for us to complain 
I however always have, and do still have, a problem with paying for online. I will take the same approach I took with my 360. I simply will not play online.
I however always have, and do still have, a problem with paying for online. I will take the same approach I took with my 360. I simply will not play online.
Welp that's that I guess.
Everything I said has been shut down. I will edit the posts. Bird will shut up now.
Because they get a cut of the subscription fee based on downloads via PS+.
But please don't spout hyperbolic nonsense. What Microsoft is doing is anti consumer value stripping trash. PS+ is by contrast the best value proposition gamers have had this entire generation.
Mods normally have insider knowledge about somethings
I can see these things happening, but the prices dont make sense. 399/499.
gundamkyoukai
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Did you really just post 3 month old rumors before this DRM nonsense went down .
Thought your info was more up to date .
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