Thanks for the suggestion, I'm actually going to look into this.
The Last of Us - Review Thread [Emargo up, scores in OP.]
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Just judging from the demo I had no issues with the AI and I havent read anywhere that it's "utter crap". Dont buy into everything you read. Especially on fucking Reddit.
Nice try, Kontrol Freeks sales representative.
Its reddict.
Of course I dont buy it. Its just my friend linked it and I figured i should read it for the lulz then i saw everybody trashing it lol.
More_Badass
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I've read similar things on the offical forum and on Gamefaqs
I would really like detailed impressions of the human enemy AI from the many people here who have the game. Because IMO none of the videos since E3 have been as jaw dropping or impressive.
Anyone attempted any AI "stress tests"?
Jim Sterling's review addresses it pretty heavily.
Theres more in the review.
http://www.destructoid.com/review-the-last-of-us-255287.phtml
smallios74
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Maybe some think brainless enemies should have the tactical know how of a miltary general?
Its more of what I noticed as well. The AI shown back at e3 that grasped your attention seems to be nowhere to be found now. For example enemies run toward you empty handed to punch you while you aim a shot gun at them. Thats what people I think are talking about, legit if u ask me especially when ND said none of the e3 demo was scripted. Im pretty sure people are talking about the human AI and not the infected.
Snkfanatic
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Reddit, Official forums, and Gamefaqs....
Quality sources there. I am with you though, I would love to hear from some members of GAF on this.
More_Badass
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But it's more than just flanking or working together
The E3 AI was smart, would flee and hide from you, was incredibly dynamic to you, communicated realistically. They seemed almost human
That's the kind of stuff I want to know about
And yeah those sources aren't the most reliable, but with all the amazing reviews and the release closing in, I'm getting a bit anxious
MaximumFlipFlop
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Not trying to knock whatever makes you happy. It's worth noting that changing difficulty levels will also affect enemy behaviour (they tend to be less aggressive and wait around more at lower difficulties) and how much damage Drake can take. Moving from cover to cover and/or using the environment becomes less of a concern. I play Uncharted mostly for the pew pew, though, and I like that style of combat (e.g. on crushing in an area like UC3 shipyard).
MaximumFlipFlop
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If you have larger hands like me you'll probably appreciate them much more. But yeah for like 8 bucks they're worth a try for sure. Just don't quit on them too quick because believe me, they feel so awkward at first.
I have tiny little girl hands.
There was actually one scene where Joel had to chase down one of the guys because he was running away. I thought that was a neat mechanic the AI seemed amazingly lifelike. Cant wait to test this out for myself.
MaximumFlipFlop
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That might be bad then lol
Fine Ham Abounds
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Yes. I've heard it's even better than Big Rigs.
MaximumFlipFlop
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Yup, that's a FACT. If you say otherwise you are an idiot looking for attention, because LOOK AT THE METASCORE HURP DURP.
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Man, I wish this was out today! Would make the pre-E3 weekend a pure joy! Cannot wait to play this game.
MrCookiepants
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on...a ...controller.
I played Tomb Raider on a controller at 60fps and it was fine. It's the frame rate more than the control method.
lovegames718
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That's totally subjective and up to a persons taste. I find a few games better than Super Mario Galaxy.
As for Mario Galaxy one and two being the highest rated exclusives this gen that really means nothing to me and cant fairly be compared to say Uc2 which is one ooint lower, for the simple fact that Uc2 was reviewed by over 120 reviewers and had those scores agregated (the more reviews added the higher the probabikity score will be lowered), meanwhile both galaxies had far fewer reviews aggregated in.
Metacritic isn't also a fair way to judge a games worth or compare games scores because they seem to arbitrarily include some scores and not others at times and have never given a clear reason for this. Some reviewers may review the same games but then other reviwers are included in some games aggregated scores, but not in others.
Beyond that you also have troll reviews and reviews in question like Polygons bringing down the score. We all know companies use cheap tactics and pay off reviewers at times to lower competitors score. Microsoft and Sony are in direct competition so when games get reviewed and you see a number away from the norm you always think "hmmmm did so and so company get in someone's pocket" Nintendo isnt often seen as the other big twos competition and i dont think these tactics have been used to lower down their exclusive review scores. Competition has been real tense between Somy and Micro.
But at the end it can all be conspiracy theories Lol. Also whether a game is better than another is up to your tastes, Some of the most acclaimed games this gen. Like Far cry 3, RDR, Assn. Creed, Gta4 I find super repetitive and boring and wouldn't give more than an 80 avg score, yet they are thee highest rated games this gen.
More_Badass
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Are you seriously trying to compare The Last of Us - a realistic mature survival horror/action game - to Super Mario Galaxy - a light hearted kid friendly platformer puzzle game?
Context and genre need to be taken into account here.
Just because games have similar scores, doesn't mean they're comparable. Epic Mickey, Banzo, those are games to compare Mario Galaxy to.
Not The Last of Us
The AI is great and they constantly try to flank you, they are aggressive if they are armed with weapons and they run for their lives if you have the upper hand. They are really not that great at fighting (Normal difficulty) but I think it's awesome, that when you are a fight with one, the rest don't just stand and stare, they actually try to help their mates.
The AI is different when enemies haven't seen you. Because when you haven't been noticed then they can't see Ellie or who else might be with you, and thus a Clicker and Ellie can easily walk into each other without knowing that somebody is right in front of them.
The AI is different when enemies haven't seen you. Because when you haven't been noticed then they can't see Ellie or who else might be with you, and thus a Clicker and Ellie can easily walk into each other without knowing that somebody is right in front of them.
15-24 hours at the moment are what journalists have quoted.
Yeah that's all being I read otherwise the Ai is great.
I think they did it so your partner Ai wont be too troublesome.
DarkLordMalik
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I guess i'll see how many redbox days it will take.
You have an awesome wife
You chose wisely.
That right there is what you call a Keeper.
Yup and it's a good design decision.
I'm actually really amazed at Ellie, how she just minds her own. I just wish she would react when I am punching out at her or putting a gun to her head lol. But generally, a very nice companion. She found a health pack for me and threw it to me when I were about to die. That girl is amazing. ^_^
demosthenes
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Ball and chain, throw away the key.
SniperHunter
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Hehe that sounds awesome!,I read that her AI was fantastic.
I remember you hyping me up during the Uncharted 1 days.
reminds me of Elizabeth in Bioshock Infinite.
Can anyone speak to this post on reddit?
Spoiler tagged out of an abundance of caution. No actual story spoilers here or in the link.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/1fuez8/so_i_have_been_watching_my_cousin_play_the_last/
Spoiler tagged out of an abundance of caution. No actual story spoilers here or in the link.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/1fuez8/so_i_have_been_watching_my_cousin_play_the_last/
DeadRockstar
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I had a convo about the game as well:
Me: I don't want to pay full price for a console game.
Me: Might be worth it though.
Me: Fuck off. What do you know.
Me: Don't then. Nobody is forcing you.
Me: I'll probably get it.
...and then he woke up.
Come on. This is just silly. Like that one Polygon review is going to be a major influence on anyone's purchase.
Use your head. IGN reaches far more people than Poly, and has more ads than Poly. If we're going to start making unwarranted accusations of being paid off, IGN would be the most likely site to be guilty.
But nope, it must be the much smaller site, because they have an opinion you don't like. Great business move on Microsoft's part, really.
It's one thing to be hyped, and it's another thing to lose all your critical thinking skills.
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