Redditor claims MS employees monitoring Reddit; making positive posts about the Xbox1

Microsoft has a history of astroturfing (for everything) back to the late 90s. Your proposition is far less believable.

It's pretty clear how harSon feels about the issue. It's not like any of us are going to change our minds on this stuff once we've made them up. Not defending his position, seems abhorrent defending MS here.
 
someone please read this guys posting history, lol

I freely admit I do like Microsoft gaming products. Xbox, xbox 360 all have served me well. I may be naively holding out hope that MS can turn around things for Xbox... it really seems they can't make a right move of late.

But that all said you can't deny the reddit post that startes this wildfire topic has zero legitimacy to it other than a poster making a claim that reddit is now shutting down. My point above is that conspiracy is a simple thing to start when the masses are already fired up.
 
A Darling of mine, and probably many more, Mr.Jim Sterling has had a guy "battling" him every time, the past days, he has said something negative about Microsoft.
Well a CEX employee found out that he is actually working for Microsoft.

https://twitter.com/Zabant/status/342990976203251712

And if you read more of the guys tweet it's all in the same tone, Microsoft is good, it's like steam, it's awesome etc. etc. well for me It's things like this that makes me pissed, Microsoft already lost my respect back in 2001 and gained my hate with Secure boot and now my anger.

I'm really wishing for a larger Linux selection on Steam and that GoG picks up because you know, vine doesn't always work.
 
Instead of spending millions on reputation management, why not just spend the money on a DRM strategy that won't piss everyone off?
 
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Okay that killed me. :lol

Oh man, this is fantastic
 
I think it's silly to believe that a company as successful as Microsoft would stoop to posting random, positive comments on popular internet message boards. Besides, the XBox One© and the new Kinect 2 are such a great pieces of hardware that they don't need help from viral marketers to sell. And with games like Halo 5, Call of Duty: Ghosts and Forza 5 already on the way, I'm sure gamers are as excited as I am to see the future of the Xbox One©.
 
I think it's silly to believe that a company as successful as Microsoft would stoop to posting random, positive comments on popular internet message boards. Besides, the XBox One© and the new Kinect 2 are such a great pieces of hardware that they doesn't need help from viral marketers to sell. And with games like Halo 5, Call of Duty: Ghosts and Forza 5 already on the way, I'm sure gamers are as excited as I am to see the future of the Xbox One©.


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I think it's silly to believe that a company as successful as Microsoft would stoop to posting random, positive comments on popular internet message boards. Besides, the XBox One© and the new Kinect 2 are such a great pieces of hardware that they doesn't need help from viral marketers to sell. And with games like Halo 5, Call of Duty: Ghosts and Forza 5 already on the way, I'm sure gamers are as excited as I am to see the future of the Xbox One©.


They've infiltrated the mods!!!
 
Would be hilarious, had the mods on GAF been montoring the astroturfers here for like 2 years, building up a case. Then boom, drops it. 500 pages .PDF detailing everything. My biggest fear now, is that they know, they are being watched and therefore comes up with smarter measures.

Did not Bish hint at them using obvious email adresses. Well, next time, they wont do that.

Can i just say, i have seen some truly brainwashed posts on most tech sites comment sections. Maybe, its just the tech crowd (i cringe everytime a tech podcast discusses gaming) though....
 
Would be hilarious, had the mods on GAF been montoring the astroturfers here for like 2 years, building up a case. Then boom, drops it. 500 pages .PDF detailing everything. My biggest fear now, is that they know, they are being watched and therefore comes up with smarter measures.

Did not Bish hint at them using obvious email adresses. Well, next time, they wont do that.

We've had people aggressively arguing for the superiority of (For example) Forza over GT who have signed up for the site with email accounts like spy@microsoft.net.
 
I think it's silly to believe that a company as successful as Microsoft would stoop to posting random, positive comments on popular internet message boards. Besides, the XBox One© and the new Kinect 2 are such a great pieces of hardware that they don't need help from viral marketers to sell. And with games like Halo 5, Call of Duty: Ghosts and Forza 5 already on the way, I'm sure gamers are as excited as I am to see the future of the Xbox One©.

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Given we don't know who this "source" is and the claim can't be proven or bebunked unless that person came forward it got me thinking. Would this not be a very damaging blow that a competitor of Microsoft would most certainly want at this paricular time? How do we know this isn't some Sony plant from their new PR firm trying to sink the knife deeper? Just saying the conspiracy we all assume could be something very different.

Well, hello there.
You might be onto something, there.
Except that it's confirmed that Microsoft does this?
No?
Alrighty, then.
 
Microsoft has a history of astroturfing (for everything) back to the late 90s. Your proposition is far less believable.

I wonder if people realize that the 90s ended 13 years ago. How much has Microsoft changed since then? It's barely even the same company. Even the Anti-Trust suit against Microsoft practices, that the government drove, was closed in 2001. I'm not saying they're trustworthy. They are a corporation, and must be monitored and held accountable. Singling them out, however, is inaccurate. There are a lot of companies, like Sony, Apple, Google, etc in the tech industry that astroturfing/social networking manipulation with abandon. More if you consider any corporation where public image matters and it's was rifle in Politics. But suddenly MS invented it, judging by some posts lately. Since 2009 there are stricter rules about it, and penalties, although the effectiveness of these limitations are unknown really.

http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2009/10/endortest.shtm

Then there is that Google commercial in theaters that people are paying to see...
 
A Darling of mine, and probably many more, Mr.Jim Sterling has had a guy "battling" him every time, the past days, he has said something negative about Microsoft.
Well a CEX employee found out that he is actually working for Microsoft.

https://twitter.com/Zabant/status/342990976203251712

And if you read more of the guys tweet it's all in the same tone, Microsoft is good, it's like steam, it's awesome etc. etc. well for me It's things like this that makes me pissed, Microsoft already lost my respect back in 2001 and gained my hate with Secure boot and now my anger.
Mainstream media journalists should add a paragraph on such evidences when they explain their audience what is wrong with DRM. So that they can be extra cautious when they read good things about it elsewhere on the internet.
 
is that bannable? (serious question)

Yes it is. Having a Microsoft email account is not itself bannable. That's fine. The problem is when it is evident that you are simply there to shill for your corporate overlords, and particularly when it is done undercover.
 
I wonder if people realize that the 90s ended 13 years ago. How much has Microsoft changed since then? It's barely even the same company. Even the Anti-Trust suit against Microsoft practices, that the government drove, was closed in 2001. I'm not saying they're trustworthy. They are a corporation, and must be monitored and held accountable. Singling them out, however, is inaccurate. There are a lot of companies, like Sony, Apple, Google, etc in the tech industry that astroturfing/social networking manipulation with abandon. More if you consider any corporation where public image matters and it's was rifle in Politics. But suddenly MS invented it, judging by some posts lately. Since 2009 there are stricter rules about it, and penalties, although the effectiveness of these limitations are unknown really.

http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2009/10/endortest.shtm

Then there is that Google commercial in theaters that people are paying to see...
Great! That changes nothing I've said, though. This thread is about Microsoft -- and they have a more notorious reputation.
 
Yes it is. Having a Microsoft email account is not itself bannable; that's fine. The problem is when it is evident that you are simply there to shill for your corporate overlords.

How many of these accounts have you banned so far do you think? I'm still finding it hard to believe what seems to be happening
 
How many of these accounts have you banned so far do you think? I'm still finding it hard to believe what seems to be happening

Recently? Not many that I happen to personally know of, but I'm not necessarily there when every ban happens. Over the course of the last several years? Dozens.
 
In light of recent events, I'm reconsidering having disagreed with the poster who suggested that GAF should ban all discussion of the Xbone. This shit is unreal.
 
I think it's silly to believe that a company as successful as Microsoft would stoop to posting random, positive comments on popular internet message boards. Besides, the XBox One© and the new Kinect 2 are such a great pieces of hardware that they don't need help from viral marketers to sell. And with games like Halo 5, Call of Duty: Ghosts and Forza 5 already on the way, I'm sure gamers are as excited as I am to see the future of the Xbox One©.

I know right!?
 
Recently? Not many that I happen to personally know of, but I'm not necessarily there when every ban happens. Over the course of the last several years? Dozens.

Ah. From the general noise I was expecting at least some 10-20 these last days alone.

Edit: Nice clarification of the answer. So we really don't know the number. Would be cool with a report on this from some major news organization. I'm a journalist, but I don't write in English (or for something that would get international attention).
 
That's what really gets me. You'd think they would have more sense than to sign up with an email address like that.

What if Sony hired marketing firm to sign up a bunch of people using Microsoft email address, and defend stupid MS policy, badly, and make utter fools of themselves? This is the most brilliant corporate plan ever. At a key time, flood all the messages boards and blogs with more marketing plants and be so obvious that the gaming community couldn't help but discover them and out them as shills sent by Microsoft.

check. mate.

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I think it's silly to believe that a company as successful as Microsoft would stoop to posting random, positive comments on popular internet message boards. Besides, the XBox One© and the new Kinect 2 are such a great pieces of hardware that they don't need help from viral marketers to sell. And with games like Halo 5, Call of Duty: Ghosts and Forza 5 already on the way, I'm sure gamers are as excited as I am to see the future of the Xbox One©.

Holy shit, check out this guys posting history. It's like these shills aren't even trying, LOL!
 
Does the reverse ever happen or is it pretty much just a Microsoft thing?

Does "the reverse" mean Sony? Yes, that has happened, without going in to specifics.

If people are wondering if we catch all the marketers, the answer is unfortunately no, and probably not by a longshot. I'm confident there are at least some amongst us right now. The biggest problem is that it is often difficult to tell who is literally a paid, viral marketer and who is simply profoundly captured by a particular company's branding/marketing, or who may have always owned Nintendo products and now feels heavily invested in seeing them continue to succeed.

There are, as a non-MS example, definitely people who refer to Sony as SONY and speak almost reverently of their products and games, but who aren't actually paid to operate like that. Apple fans are the most notorious for this -- they become so enraptured with the brand, so fully captured by the marketing, that they operate as viral marketers without actually being paid like one.

This makes our job of rooting out the legitimately paid viral marketers much harder.
 
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