Serena Williams: The Most Dominant Female Tennis Player Ever?

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I don't think it's racism, but Maria does make more money than Serena in endorsements. She just signed a deal with Porsche. She's far more commercial to the higher/upper middle class that watches tennis.
And that has nothing to do with race?
 
I'd say yeah.

I remember when she strolled into the 2007 Australian Open (RANKED 81st!) and won the whole damn thing.

Murdered poor Maria in the final.

"I need another Australian Open. I'll pick one up on my way home from the store."

The thing is, she wasn't always this consistent; she seems hungrier these days (in her 30s, lol), whereas Graf and Navratalova just ran through the draw all day, every day. If Serena had this kind of desire when she was younger, who knows how many slams she'd have. But I guess you have to take into consideration that she was hampered quite a bit from injury.

I just realized that if Serena had won the Australian Open, she would have her 2nd "Serena Slam" (with her first coming from winning 2002 French Open - 2003 Australian Open)
 
It says she called 911 at 6am because there was an intruder. It's still dark at 6am, and what kind of random drug tester shows up at 6am prowling around the grounds of a private mansion. Story seems likely to me.

In tennis, drug testers must know your whereabouts 24/7 because they test players randomly.

Sometimes they test players right after matches.
 
Make no mistake, I wasn't calling you a racist but racists now use that to complain about not being able to be racist. "It's just a nigger joke, don't be so PC."
Thanks for clarifying, but you should be more cautious in sports threads. I'm a big sports fan and have been so since I can remember. In grade school, I dreamt of looking like my hero Tim Raines (I'm white! lol). Still, I'm no self-hating white guy - nor am I a "nigger" hater - I'm just a big sports fan who's an equal-opportunity hater when it comes to PEDs.
 
There are way too many ignorant people and comments here. I like how people talk down to other social mediums like reddit, yahoo, youtube, gamefaqs when this place can be just as bad as those sometimes.

SMH.
 
Thanks for clarifying, but you should be more cautious in sports threads. I'm a big sports fan and have been so since I can remember. In grade school, I dreamt of looking like my hero Tim Raines (I'm White! lol). Still, I'm no self-hating White guy - nor am I a "nigger" hater - I'm just a big sports fan who's an equal-opportunity hater when it comes to PEDs.
Nigger hater? Why not just say you don't hate black people... what an odd choice of words.

You claiming I'm being PC because I'm questioning whether or not race plays a factor in how much an athlete appeals to rich usually white fans of tennis seems a bit suspect.

Can you honestly tell me race isn't a factor with some fans when it comes to Serena and Anna?
 
Nigger hater? Why not just say you don't hate black people... what an odd choice of words.

You claiming I'm being PC because I'm questioning whether or not race plays a factor in how much an athlete appeals to rich usually white fans of tennis seems a bit suspect.

Can you honestly tell me race isn't a factor with some fans when it comes to Serena and Anna?

Dude, there are some people you should absolutely not try to debate on the internet.
 
Nigger hater?
What's the problem? You're the one who used the term "nigger" in the first place, that's why I reused it in quotation marks. You are the PC police!

You claiming I'm being PC because I'm questioning whether or not race plays a factor in how much an athlete appeals to rich usually white fans of tennis seems a bit suspect. Can you honestly tell me race isn't a factor with some fans when it comes to Serena and Anna?

People can like who they want based on the reasons they want and do whatever they want with their money. If some people don't like her primarily because she's black, that's their prerogative. Doesn't make it right, but it happens. Still, what does it change about her probable use of PEDs? Nothing.

Who's Anna? (Kournikova?)
 
What's the problem? You're the one who used the term "nigger" in the first place, that's why I reused it in quotation marks. You are the PC police!

Are you fucking dense? I used an example of a racist complaining about not being able to tell racist jokes. Me finding it odd that you are referring to black people as niggers is not me being the PC police.

It seems like my original statement did apply to you after all.
 
Are you fucking dense? I used an example of a racist complaining about not being able to tell racist jokes. Me finding it odd that you are referring to black people as niggers is not me being the PC police.

It seems like my original statement did apply to you after all.
It was in quotation marks! (thus showing I wasn't like the people you referred to)

You are intellectually dishonest.
 
It was in quotation marks! (thus showing I wasn't like the people you referred to)

You are intellectually dishonest.

Oh it was in quotation marks... you know what else what have shown that you were not like the people I was referring to? Not calling black people niggers... that would have worked just as well... probably better.

If finding it odd that you are referring to black people as niggers is PC well then I guess I am PC.
 
If you don't agree that Serena is the greatest of all time, you're probably a racist. That's just how it works out.

even i have to admit i don't quite like the tone Serena defenders tend to take. it's just such a major and reckless logic jump to make. but then again i've never really liked Serena anyway. Venus is cool though.
 
Oh it was in quotation marks... you know what else what have shown that you were not like the people I was referring to? Not calling black people niggers... that would have worked just as well... probably better.

If finding it odd that you are referring to black people as niggers is PC well then I guess I am PC.
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even i have to admit i don't quite like the tone Serena defenders tend to take. it's just such a major and reckless logic jump to make. but then again i've never really liked Serena anyway. Venus is cool though.

Indeed. Just listen to Serena, she never loses because she was outplayed, it's always excuse after excuse after excuse. Nearly always a sore loser.
 
I hate when threads get closed because people just don't know what not to say :-/

Pretty much.

Anyway, I always hate addressing race with these sorts of things, but I do have to admit that it's hard to not consider it when it comes to the Williams Sisters. I mean, they rarely ever get tapped for the high profile, luxury brand endorsements that tend to be reserved for top athletes, even when they were younger and had absolute dominance over the sport.

And, more on-topic, I think it's safe to say Serena is definitely one of the most athletic females to ever play the game. And I hope that influence perseveres when she retires. Women's tennis can be way too pretty. People like to talk about Serena's appearance, but I think they sport would be better off if more ladies took the training as seriously and hit the gym.
 
Get styled on.

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Is that a gang dance?
Wasn't her sister killed in a gang related shooting?
This dance seems to suggest she's praising gang culture.
 
I think I will add any Serena related threads to the list of GAF threads to avoid.

Too many ignorant people, makes me fear for the future of our species that some people still act like this.

Thankfully though, I realize that no one is never this brazen in real life so its not too bad.
 
Is that a gang dance?
Wasn't her sister killed in a gang related shooting?
This dance seems to suggest she's praising gang culture.
It's like we've never talked about this before. I'll go ahead and assume that this is a reference to that the thread and kindly lol.
 
Thanks for clarifying, but you should be more cautious in sports threads. I'm a big sports fan and have been so since I can remember. In grade school, I dreamt of looking like my hero Tim Raines (I'm white! lol). Still, I'm no self-hating white guy - nor am I a "nigger" hater - I'm just a big sports fan who's an equal-opportunity hater when it comes to PEDs.

Really?! Whats the point of saying that? Good grief.......anyway, I think when its all said and done, Serena will be considered the best.
 
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