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[Imm0rt4l]

At this point all Sony has to do is show a 5-10 min clip of games.

Walk Kaz on stage and say "No DRM.", drop the mic and walk off.

yep....

 

[Teknoman]

DR3 yes. ME2 no.

Wait...really?

 

[WrenchNinja]

This is a box only a mother could love.

 

[JakkuFurosu]

Maybe I'm being a bit paranoid here but....people are still going to buy the XBONE anyway, aren't they?

in mindless droves.

The only question left for me is PS4+PC+Handhelds or just PC+handhelds

 

[Evolved1]

famousmortimer redeemed!

And recall, as it's been pointed out, he also said Sony was backing off the DRM. Since it was Sony and MS (not the pubs) putting it out there to begin with (something else CBOAT confirmed) .

 

[Brawly Likes to Brawl]

Microsoft PLANNED to do this out of their own volition? It would still be awful it were just publisher pressure, but THIS. I'm not ashamed to say that this company is literally the cancer of the console market.

 

[Ponn]

I expect jeering at MS' e3 presentation.

I expect MS is fully aware of the bad reputation they are going through right now and have flown in a cadre of plants for their conference. Expect much more fake whooping and hollering than their last conference.

 

[GuardianE]

Huh? I thought Mirrors Edge 2 was exclusive, Dead Rising 3 wasn't.

No. Neither is explicitly labeled as exclusive in the OP, only the DLC for another Capcom game... but they're not confirmed as multiplatform either.

 

[outsida]

Quite possibly the greatest post I've ever read on Gaf.

 

[FlyFaster]

It's not really F2P if you have to pay for the internet AND XBL.

smh

 

[Camp Lo]

^_^ onlingamingpayo.w.-allklk for Sony? ahha nope.noconfirm

^_^ sonty rapped up tighterrea than Virgin mosquito when on drm istuf. Frustartin!g myinfogloves!

Sonty say it aint so!

 

[Man-is-Obsolete]

So...what's to keep Sony from simply stating at their conference that the suppressed games are coming to PS4?

Publisher relations, but I agree. Call that out. My hope, and my faith in this hope is low, is that there is enough outcry and finger pointing being done by the media itself. Although the media reporting how great the presence of games for the Xbox compared to PS4 is just as likely.

 

[eddfromtheriver]

Maybe I'm being a bit paranoid here but....people are still going to buy the XBONE anyway, aren't they?

Hard to believe... but not all individuals are blessed with a good IQ.

EDIT: I didn't mean to offend anyone.

 

[UntoldDreams]

EVEN WORSE DRM? I posted this before and its even MORE relevant now.

This is the consumer on XBone's DRM. Enjoy the ride. Apparently MS Executives view their customers with contempt.

 

[mjontrix]

Oh my god.

• What if Silver members for Xbox One don't even get 24 hours for authentication, instead you have to be online at all times just to launch the game after installing it.
  
• You have to digitally re-install the game after a month for up to date authentication
  
• If a game isn't updated, you can't play it, period.
  
• You have to be a gold member to buy DLC.
  
• Silver members have up to a month for keeping saves, must be a gold member to keep saves for a longer period. All save games are required to be placed on the cloud, Silver members get less space or slots in the cloud.

Just rattling off ideas on how the DRM situation could get even worse.

dont give them ideas!

It's probably the update one - so they not only have screwed the second hand market, the renters and those without reliable internet; they've gone after the speed runners and glitchers as well?

 

[legacyzero]

I expect MS is fully aware of the bad reputation they are going through right now and have flown in a cadre of plants for their conference. Expect much more fake whooping and hollering than their last conference.

Ugh. So uncomfortable.

 

[Loudninja]

Wait...really?

Kagari said ME2 is not exclusive.

 

[Silent_Ocarina]

Much worse than I could have possibly imagined.

 

[Fewr]

Not when they pack the place full of MS employees and astroclappers

I hope it turns out to be more iconic than the iant crab sony presentation. If there is one with the potential to dethrone that one it's definitely xbone's presentation.

 

[Reversed]

Tales of my crazy buttocks.

 

[Touch]

Maybe I'm being a bit paranoid here but....people are still going to buy the XBONE anyway, aren't they?

If it still plays Halo, COD and Gears then it will sell millions.

 

[Demon Ice]

Is it wrong to want something to fail?

Not at all. It is absolutely in the video game consumers' best interest that the XB1 fails. Unfortunately the only people left supporting it are the ones that are too shortsighted to see past the next Halo / Gears of War.

 

[NullPointer]

Microsoft PLANNED to do this out of their own volition? It would still be awful it were just publisher pressure, but THIS. I'm not ashamed to say that this company is literally the cancer of the console market.

I've work with Microsoft DRM forever. Its been in the heart of their software for ages. Palladium was their initiative for hardware DRM, end to end. These are the same guys mocked for all the "are you sure" pop-ups in Windows Vista's security.

They live and breathe DRM. It doesn't surprise me one iota that they think they've come up with a masterstroke system to lure third parties.

 

[StreetsAhead]

At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if you're required to pay for Live in order to do the 24-hour check.

 

[Zukuu]

If it still plays Halo, COD and Gears then it will sell millions.

In amuricaaa.

 

[IncandescentPrecept]

Someone help me with this - so, it means that Sony won't be talking about their stance on DRM?

 

[legacyzero]

no this thing tanking would be a godsend.

No. As C.S. Lewis wrote, 'this is what hate was made for.'

If this is true, which I don't doubt, we're in drawn-and-quartered, ash scattering, salted fields territory here.

We're talking ripping out tongues levels of madness. Removing terms and names from our lexicon and replacing them with "that shall not be named" as we make the sign of the X button over our chest.

Building anti-statues so that nobody can forget.

Shit is wild.

When it sounds as awful as this, absolutely not.

If it is I'll see you in hell.

Nope.

Well, then I dont feel so bad. What a terrible, terrible console Microsoft is trying to push. I don't even feel like this is a console war. More like Console genocide.

 

[Gorillaz]

So will there be Astroclappers at MS's conference?

 

[valkillmore]

Quite possibly the greatest post I've ever read on Gaf.

You're right.

'Your bitter tears are my bidet' is funnier than any line I've ever heard.

Simply incredible.

 

[Dead Man]

So, is this whole exclusive marketing thing getting old to anyone else? Paying pubs to not talk about their own games is just... weak.

At this point all Sony has to do is show a 5-10 min clip of games.

Walk Kaz on stage and say "No DRM.", drop the mic and walk off.

LOL

 

[Raw64life]

Yikes. Not that I was planning on getting a Xbone, but good lord.

 

[Gammacide]

I'd love to think that IF Dead Rising 3 is an actual XBone exclusive that it would mean Deep Down (Dragon's Dogma 2) is an exclusive to PS4. This would make me happier than almost any other E3 announcement personally.

 

[nomis]

If there is an onstage gameplay demo of Mirror's Edge 2 at the MS conference and the player isn't holding a controller in their hands, I will LITERALLY cry. Head tracking is fine.

 

[GuardianE]

Someone help me with this - so, it means that Sony won't be talking about their stance on DRM?

It just means that CBOAT hasn't been able to get any info prior to E3. I imagine Sony will talk about DRM at E3. They've built it up already.

 

[Papercuts]

No. Neither is explicitly labeled as exclusive in the OP, only the DLC for another Capcom game... but they're not confirmed as multiplatform either.

CBoaT has said in the past that DR3 got scooped up by someone, so I am thinking that atleast is.

 

[JCizzle]

Did his Sony paywall comment mean he couldn't confirm it (I.e. "noconfirm") or just part of the writing style.

 

[Jubern]

Mods should really change his tag to "Not drunk. Do not ban or lock."

 

[rdrr gnr]

Microsoft PLANNED to do this out of their own volition? It would still be awful it were just publisher pressure, but THIS. I'm not ashamed to say that this company is literally the cancer of the console market.

This may have been the last straw for me personally. Truly awful.

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

Reading buttocks we surely are in one of the key moments in console gaming. If Sony follows the draconian DRM setup by MS, console gaming will be lost forever.

This makes me excited and fearful for tomorrow.

 

[Graphics Horse]

So will there be Astroclappers at MS's conference?

Sony + MS will both have people for that.

 

[Acorn]

Not at all. It is absolutely in the video game consumers' best interest that the XB1 fails.

Yup. Sadly those that don't give a shit about rights outnumber us so it'll become a facet of the industry.

 

[Kincaido]

You are gdlk OP

 

[140.85]

Maybe I'm being a bit paranoid here but....people are still going to buy the XBONE anyway, aren't they?

It's the current market incumbent and the brand is shorthand for videogames to many that don't do any research about gaming beyond store clerks and Wal-Mart displays. Yeah, lots of people are gonna buy 'em.

 

[Loudninja]

I'd love to think that IF Dead Rising 3 is an actual XBone exclusive that it would mean Deep Down (Dragon's Dogma 2) is an exclusive to PS4. This would make me happier than almost any other E3 announcement personally.

I dont think that means that at all really.

 

[Beerman462]

Can't believe this. Was a huge OG Xbox fan and I love my 360. MS can get fucked.

Ditto

 

[Kuroudu]

I don't see how Microsoft's DRM plans could become worse than they already are. What else could they possibly do?

I am curious too how can it get more worse than it already is?

 

[Fewr]

Xbox One - Prism Supported, timed exclusive.

Believe.

 

[ismk]

Cboat is the best. We love you <3

 

[GuardianE]

CBoaT has said in the past that DR3 got scooped up by someone, so I am thinking that atleast is.

Ah, well that would confirm it then.

 

[dragonbane]

Huh? I thought Mirrors Edge 2 was exclusive, Dead Rising 3 wasn't.

CBOAT confirmed earlier DR3 is indeed a console exclusive (but didn't specify if MS or Sony). This proves it is MS. He also said there is only one EA exclusive for the One, but that exclusive will be getting a PC port. This is TitanFall.

So according to that ME2 can't be exclusive.