no it does not. i know this because i was hit multiple times.
Super Mario 3D World for Wii U
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no it does not. i know this because i was hit multiple times.
FrostuTheNinja
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Beautiful.
Ok, I suppose I should just say 'generic' rather than 'NSMB-like'. It looks like a generic Mario-themed game compared to Galaxy and Sunshine, which had interesting themes. NSMB I find generic as well, which is where the comparison comes from.
yes
I've come to hate the SMB3-style level selection
and Delfino Plaza was brilliant and I've never heard anyone complain about Peach's Castle
Naked Snake
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People complaining about this being a rehash of 3D Land need to watch the Developer Direct video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JooUqPF2Lf4
Tons of new features, including free camera ala Mario64. I also didn't realize before that each character has different attributes.
Game looks glorious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JooUqPF2Lf4
Tons of new features, including free camera ala Mario64. I also didn't realize before that each character has different attributes.
Game looks glorious.
Oh? That's seriously great news!
From the videos it still seems to slightly "freeze" when someone grabs a power-up [or it might just be the video].
Can you please confirm that, as well?
I hope someone can get some good footage of it showing Mario in 3rd person. I would think it would be apt to just put "Welcome to Galaxy" on it afterwards.
I guess that is fair, but I feel NSMB's themes are usually visually the same, but 3D Mario games aren't. Like you may have grass levels or water levels that share the same theme but look completely different. NSMB isn't like that.
I guess that is fair, but I feel NSMB's themes are usually visually the same, but 3D Mario games aren't. Like you may have grass levels or water levels that share the same theme but look completely different. NSMB isn't like that.
The Developer Direct addressed many of my initial concerns, mainly the handheld-appropriate camera, it not seeming tailored to the platform, and adjusting the scope and mission statement to fit a console release. Also, it looked like a 3DS game on the stream.
3D Land had some pretty bad initial impressions: no one knew about the run button, rolling, the long jump, or the rolling long jump, so the game looked very sluggish.
Is the roll/rolling long jump back for 3D World? I haven't seen it yet, but then again everyone played it safe in 3D Land's footage too.
I really enjoyed the focused design of 3D Land: the blend of 2D and 3D I always wanted. Full on exploration is lovely as well, hopefully the heavy-hitting Wii U Mario embodies that well.
3D Land had some pretty bad initial impressions: no one knew about the run button, rolling, the long jump, or the rolling long jump, so the game looked very sluggish.
Is the roll/rolling long jump back for 3D World? I haven't seen it yet, but then again everyone played it safe in 3D Land's footage too.
I really enjoyed the focused design of 3D Land: the blend of 2D and 3D I always wanted. Full on exploration is lovely as well, hopefully the heavy-hitting Wii U Mario embodies that well.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Expansive hub worlds made sense back when they were novel and technically impressive, and also when I was coincidentally in middle school and had all the time in the world to kill in front of the TV.
These days I just prefer to get to the point.
Yeah, I'm going to wait till I see more of the game before getting too disappointed. I'm sure I'll still enjoy the game regardless.
SMW always felt like a step backwards after SMB3. The level design and challenge weren't as good.
3D World does present a jump forward. It's like a much more detailed Galaxy without the gravity mechanics and a tighter focus on platforming. The game is visually stunning in full resolution on the eShop with a rock-solid FPS. The cat suit seems like a very fresh new powerup with both the climbing and the pounce attack. Luigi, Peach, and Toad all being playable with their own abilities in 3D is something that is long past due, as well.
i don't recall off the top of my head. i can check it out again tomorrow.
from the start, the level design was strong. within the first world, there's a great twist to reconsider overreliance on the midair save (waggle). it's also a much faster-paced game (which requires the waggle to save yourself sometimes).
the end of the game made you think outside the box and rethink what boundaries are. it's pretty brilliant.
3d land's last half should have been the entire game. then we would have had a game that went from easy to somewhat difficult. i'm afraid 3d world will be similarly easy for way too long.
Dion Blaster
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The producer said in the dev video that it's supposed to be culmination of the best elements of every Mario game before it. Maybe they won't accomplish that but this is certainly supposed to be a full-on Mario. That's not to say there won't be another Mario after this with a greater emphasis on graphics.
Master Nairb
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It's so funny cause I was hoping it was not gonna be Mario Galaxy 3.
NOW I would do anything for MG3!!! The reveal of this game was the biggest/worst surprise in E3 history for me.
NOW I would do anything for MG3!!! The reveal of this game was the biggest/worst surprise in E3 history for me.
fredrancour
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I am immensely concerned that the multiplayer design will make the game too slow. I will reserve judgement til I actually play it.
This may have been answered earlier in the thread, so I apologize if so, but does 3D World have a run button like 3D Land? And how does the character momentum feel compared to 3D Land? Mario in 3D Land felt really slow to me compared to Galaxy.
This is their new 3D mario Game. Not a spinoff.
Look at Iwata Asks Super Mario 3D Land.
That game was a crossroads for new games.
they wanted to blend 2d and 3d mario aspects for future games.
Did you use the roll? The classic/rolling long jumps?
3D Land felt faster to me, but maybe its the more focused levels talking.
Thanks for the reply!
There's no need to check, I just checked the Developer Interview video. The game does "pause" when you grab power-up's.
Oh well, I'm still excited! It might not have been the Wii U Super Mario game I was expecting, but it looks to be a lot of fun.
I'll definitely purchase this one at launch.
You realize you can't get much more extreme and different than space, right?
Lucent
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Alright, I'm sold on it. Day 1.
depends on the player. Exploration is one of the most important aspects of gaming for me
the timer is really annoying me. No Mario game ever has benefited from having a time limit in which to complete a level
I think this game does have a pretty good emphasis on graphics, it's just that it loses a lot of detail in compression. It's one of those games you need to see in full resolution and framerate to appreciate.
I wouldn't mind a run button, but my biggest problem with 3D Land was that sometimes I would want to run and jump with limited space and Mario would decide I didn't get enough speed and slowly jump to his death.
I always liked the hubs, at least until they got pared back to nothing.
As a kid, it was always fun/relaxing just to explore and test your abilities without the pressure of a level or goals to meet.
I wish Nintendo didn't always choose the simple/accessible route for everything; it strips their most recent games of wonder.
They might develop another one, or might have another in development, but atm this seems to be the 3D mario for Wii U. Why not?
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
I'll agree with this much. Didn't like it in Super Mario Bros. Liked it even less in New SMB where it works against searching for star coins. Won't like it here either.
Ah well.
they look fast in the previews. very fast. especially TOAD. In the dev video they even talk about how Toad will be used by experts who will want to try for high scores/times etc...
This looks so good, especially the end.
ElectricKaibutsu
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I'll get this game, of course, and I'm sure it will be excellent as usual, but I was really hoping for Mario 64-2.
SpoonyBard
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I haven't played 3D Land, so this looks pretty interesting to me. And I'm sure there's also a Galaxy style Mario game in the works, they just want to get this one out first.
edit: I also hope that the single player mode is good, it always worries me when this much focus is on the multiplayer part...
edit: I also hope that the single player mode is good, it always worries me when this much focus is on the multiplayer part...
Being 3D Land my least favorite 3D Mario this game has disappointed me greatly, I do hope the multiplayer and overall "SMB2 - ness" with all the different gameplay options makes up for it. The cat suite was very meh, new power ups always introduced some new gameplay mechanic, this is mostly the shrink mushroom plus claws... and cat ears. It's more cosmetic than a gameplay enhancement honestly.
Super Mario Universe
The Super Mario Galaxy 1/2 galaxies are included in Super Mario Universe, all re-created in stunning HD along with new planets to explore in each!
In addition, there's a brand new third galaxy that rivals the former two in terms on content. Unlock special power-ups as you progress through the game, and return to the previous galaxies to uncover secret paths/levels, as well as additional stars.
...Hey, a man can dream.
Galaxy is finished. They have moved on from it. They have stated in interviews.
If you mean a more expansive, abstract Mario 3D mario game, then yes, they may have another being developed.
well in the 3D Land iwata asks interview, they seemed pretty clear that they saw Super Mario 3D Land as something different than a traditional game. here's a quote from
Satoru Iwata said:
so wii u strategy
NSMB:U = introduction to platforming
SM 3D = bridge that audience into 3d
Mario Universe = true 3d?
looks like a sound product strategy to me
SpoonyBard
Banned
Yeah, I meant Mario 64 / Sunshine / Galaxy type of game.
Could be.
from that interview was that 3D land was a crossroads for future 3D mario games. A new starting point.
So maybe the next 3D Mario game will take even more inspiration from this accessibility to enhance the next experience.
GeorgioCostanzaX
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It's fucking amazing especially when they start messing around with the camera via the gamepad. I was literally shocked after seeing it this morning and being down on it all day.
fredrancour
Member
Sounds hopeless, if that's actually how they're seeing it. Just put more effort into the 2d ones. It's ok that 2D and 3D are legitimately different games. Stop holding back on them. Stop designing the 3d mario games around chasing players that have no interest in the project. A creative, high budget 2d mario could be enough of a masterpiece that there would be no point in trying to train people to like 3d.
Raging Spaniard
If they are Dutch, upright and breathing they are more racist than your favorite player
Im super hyped for this. Its a very simple idea but man, the design challenges for a game like this are fucking insane. Anybody making this out to be simple or uninspired game design has no clue.
GAF A60-Rim A
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My thoughts on their long term Wii U/3DS strategy:
1. NSMBU (after NSMBWii)
2. SM3DWorld
3: Super Mario Universe (more open world)
1. NSMB2 (after NSMB DS)
2. SM3DLand (yeah I know they were technically 6 months around the wrong way)
3. Super Mario Galaxy 3 Dimensions
i think so. i played it on the wii remote only. i think i held the run button out of habit, but because it's wii remote only, i don't think it's run-speed only.
Thanks for the reply!
There's no need to check, I just checked the Developer Interview video. The game does "pause" when you grab power-up's.
Oh well, I'm still excited! It might not have been the Wii U Super Mario game I was expecting, but it looks to be a lot of fun.
I'll definitely purchase this one at launch.
i'll recheck the power down. i know it happened to me, but i don't know if it happened to everyone.
Damn Galaxy was so good.
It was truly the "3D" Mario, it took that third dimension and went insane with it, I get that the levels aren't one big cohesive level but several disconnected ones, but the things it did with gravity and level design were so awesome, 3D Land and now 3D world is going back to isometric top-down view of Mario 64, that ultimately relies too much in 2D gameplay mechanics, and we have already way too many Mario 2D games.
I do not get the fans of Mario 64 not liking 3D world, when it is taking that base premise and throwing everything and the kitchen sink in it, it blew our minds back then because of polygons, but it really didn't play with the new dimension added that much, in terms of platforming.
It was truly the "3D" Mario, it took that third dimension and went insane with it, I get that the levels aren't one big cohesive level but several disconnected ones, but the things it did with gravity and level design were so awesome, 3D Land and now 3D world is going back to isometric top-down view of Mario 64, that ultimately relies too much in 2D gameplay mechanics, and we have already way too many Mario 2D games.
I do not get the fans of Mario 64 not liking 3D world, when it is taking that base premise and throwing everything and the kitchen sink in it, it blew our minds back then because of polygons, but it really didn't play with the new dimension added that much, in terms of platforming.