i really doubt it is. i mean if you want to get into semantics, maybe. but even then you'd be suggesting Mario 3D Land was a succesor to Galaxy, since this is a direct sequel to 3D Land.
Super Mario 3D World for Wii U
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i really doubt it is. i mean if you want to get into semantics, maybe. but even then you'd be suggesting Mario 3D Land was a succesor to Galaxy, since this is a direct sequel to 3D Land.
Bill Rizer
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NeoGAF went (un)expectedly insane? Really people are complaining we'll get within end of year the evolution of the best 3d pure platformer ever made and the sequel of one the best 2d ones (DKCR)?
Herb Alpert
Banned
Really? Well that's good news! I absolutely hate this generic mario music...
Thanks again for your attention in this matter.
Either way, it won't "break" the game for me, although I'd prefer it without the pause. It simply made some of the more precise platforming slightly more challenging, that is if you're playing with people who get hit a lot.
looks like i was wrong before. losing power does freeze the screen for a sec. sorry about that.
StreetsAhead
Member
Oh, so much this. Keeping the 2D Mario elements and adding in multiplayer were things that should have been obvious to anyone paying attention. When it came on I was like 'Oh, great! They did it! And now ... Mario is a cat?'
Um, yes. Same developer, Producer, same Director (as Galaxy 2, anyway). This is it. Don't assume there's some hypothetical wet-dream-inducing Mario game in the works. Any thread on Retro or Donkey Kong from now until November (and beyond) will tell you why; you only set yourself up with disappointment. This is the successor. This is the new direction, at least for now.
ZombiePlatypus
Member
I bet Mario fans that are furries are on cloud nine right now.
I wish it was new. Maybe a team different than Galaxy is helming the next evolution of Mario for WiiU? It's not like Galaxy 3 would have been a proper Mario entry. It should be something totally new.
Dion Blaster
Member
What did you think of the other songs in the demos? It was hard to hear them but I thought they were better. I think the main theme sucks too
StreetsAhead
Member
I wouldn't know. What have they been saying?
How is this game 2D?
I hope this means the world map is as good as super mario words, and they bring back the keys and the secret endings in almost every level.
Dion Blaster
Member
I assume just elements as in flagpole, actual powerups that aren't on a timer, a run button, your character state being your life bar, stuff like that. i personally think it's great
StreetsAhead
Member
It's not I said 2D elements - for example the flag pole & the timer.
It's not, but it's the merge of 2D ideas and 3D platforming that made Mario 3D Land sell well
4 player 3d mario is totally new.
I loved SM3DL, but I'm not certain I want this.
I guess they need a 3D Mario game quickly because the Wii U isn't doing so well, so they decided on this 'quick fix' instead of being ambitious and going for the next step beyond one of the best games ever made, Super Mario Galaxy.
It's dissapointing, but also very telling. Nintendo is REALLY struggling with HD development.
I guess they need a 3D Mario game quickly because the Wii U isn't doing so well, so they decided on this 'quick fix' instead of being ambitious and going for the next step beyond one of the best games ever made, Super Mario Galaxy.
It's dissapointing, but also very telling. Nintendo is REALLY struggling with HD development.
ZombiePlatypus
Member
We've had both elements separately before, and combining the two doesn't come across like an angle as fresh as what was offered on 64/Sunshine/Galaxy.
StreetsAhead
Member
Yeah, I heard rumors they were making a really big, open world game with 4000 levels for 5 years, but HD development is hard, so they scrapped it in December and just up-ported the 3DS game.
I don't know why people are so up in arms or shocked like this was a betrayal-ton. Nintendo, in its own subtle way, hinted at this from the very beginning. When they first stated a new 3D Mario game was going to be shown at E3, what image did they show to note that?
YEP, SUPER MARIO 3D LAND.
The writing was on the wall the whole time, but GAF wanted to read the fan-fiction on the men's room stall instead.
YEP, SUPER MARIO 3D LAND.
The writing was on the wall the whole time, but GAF wanted to read the fan-fiction on the men's room stall instead.
deddonpachi
Member
i don't think this game looks rushed! everyone is fine with galaxy 2, but why not with "3d land 2"? its a logical step imo
it looks fantastic in motion and it will be a blast to play!
it looks fantastic in motion and it will be a blast to play!
ZombiePlatypus
Member
Cause NSMBWiiU wasn't enough of an overkill.
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console bias
(plus possibly the awe-inspiring location and gravity mechanics, which is great and all, but a great Mario platformer do not necessarily make)
ZombiePlatypus
Member
Cause by that point Wii already got its mothership, fresh Mario game. Galaxy 2 wasn't the cosnole's lead, mainline Mario game. WiiU hasn't had that yet, and Nintendo's giving us yet another sequel instead of something new.
Even though I miss the hype-thrill of a wild new Mario, when I look at things overall I still gotta be pretty happy. Many of the things I most cherish about Mario was part of 3D Land: Fun Gameplay with some challenge, good controls, little or no story & easy and quick accessibility. When I think about it that way I feel lucky that my favorite series still does things the way I like.
You're collecting Green stars! So that's kind of like in Galaxy 2.
KillerTravis
Banned
I feel like this type of game is directed more towards the gamer than most of the cinematic crap we get these fays.
toastyToast
Member
Just wish they'd stop with the stupid W1 bullshit. Show the more inventive stages to get people excited, we know they're there. You're trying to elicit reactions from people. I'm well passed the point where seeing a green level with goombas walking is going to get me intrigued.
deddonpachi
Member
people bought 3d land for 3ds in masses, i guess nintendo will grab some these.. nothing wrong!
i could understand all the complaints if the game would not look fantastic, but ..
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
No. All of these games together will try to "save" Wii U.
Dion Blaster
Member
The game actually looks much more fun in single player based on youtube demos. Not that we'll actually know til the game is released.
I'm seen a lot of disappointment (bitter tears?) for this. On the other hand I'm happy with this news. I really liked 3DLand for the speed running aspect and the Developer Direct confirms that will be a returning aspect.
Also I'm happy with the direction they are taking 3D Mario. I'm not bothered if we never return to a Mario64/Sunshine style game because I prefer the linear approach more and 3DLand was a great take on that and with the power of Wii U they should be able to make even greater levels.
I remember 3DLand left a lot of people in despair but in the end it turned out to be one of the best Mario games and that is why I am optimistic for it. Also we've only seen a few levels so I'm not going to judge the locales just yet. They didn't show the clock levels for example when 3DLand was first show.
Also I'm happy with the direction they are taking 3D Mario. I'm not bothered if we never return to a Mario64/Sunshine style game because I prefer the linear approach more and 3DLand was a great take on that and with the power of Wii U they should be able to make even greater levels.
I remember 3DLand left a lot of people in despair but in the end it turned out to be one of the best Mario games and that is why I am optimistic for it. Also we've only seen a few levels so I'm not going to judge the locales just yet. They didn't show the clock levels for example when 3DLand was first show.
King of the Potato People
Member
I was hoping the first 3D Mario would blow me away on the Wii U, Mario 64 did with its open world and Galaxy did with its space theme, even Sunshine had a completely new setting for a Mario game. This doesn't look the killer app I was hoping.
Exterminieren
Banned
I must admit to being somewhat offput by the fact it wasn't the Galaxy-killer that I'd hyped it up to be, but it certainly looks fun, and multi-player is a great addition.
Not overly delighted though. Hope to see some more expansive, out-there levels soon... and for Christ's sake, an orchestrated soundtrack.
Not overly delighted though. Hope to see some more expansive, out-there levels soon... and for Christ's sake, an orchestrated soundtrack.
ZombiePlatypus
Member
Someone needs to take the reveal/trailer for this sequel and just replace the audio with that "womp wooommp" sound effect. The one that sounds like universal disappointment.
i think the worst part about it is how much they sorta gave up on the whole gamepad thing. they could have done just a two player game (super mario bros.) where one guy gets the tv and the other person gets the gamepad, and they play the same levels together. instead it's time to rush a sequel to 3d land out the door because they've made a huge mistake.
Instead, you're collecting flags.
And stars!
Your complete lack of discussion in Nintendo-related topics leading up to E3 paints a different picture of your anticipation levels.
*shrug* Oh well.
At first i was dissapointed due to the low quality of the stream and because i was expecting something massive...
im a big fan of the space theme in Galaxy.
Then i felt in love with the cat suit, and was delighted to see peach playable.
i watched the 720p video on youtube and wow... its really pretty, clean as usual, nice light... and the gameplay.. a lot of new ideas AGAIN, the transparent pipes .. a whole new world inside !
The touchscreen features are fun, because in single player mode îll be able to stop the mechanisms, try to find secret blocks.. i love that idea !
its not what i expected but in the end it looks like a great fun game, and a real delight for my eyes.
im a big fan of the space theme in Galaxy.
Then i felt in love with the cat suit, and was delighted to see peach playable.
i watched the 720p video on youtube and wow... its really pretty, clean as usual, nice light... and the gameplay.. a lot of new ideas AGAIN, the transparent pipes .. a whole new world inside !
The touchscreen features are fun, because in single player mode îll be able to stop the mechanisms, try to find secret blocks.. i love that idea !
its not what i expected but in the end it looks like a great fun game, and a real delight for my eyes.
The game looks better the more I watch it. I think the problem many people have is that it looks so similar (in concept) to its predecessor which has never happened with the first mainline Mario game on a console. If galaxy came out on the game cube and galaxy 2 came out on the Wii the reactions would be similar. I'm sure I will have a blast playing but I wanted to be blown away by the reveal like I was with 64, sunshine and galaxy.
As with DKC TR, I'm both saddened and delighted. With Retro I would have liked a more epic game, but I really liked dkcr so its a wash. Same thing here, would have liked a mind blowing Mario, but 3d land was great fun so its another wash.
Nintendo took 2 steps forward and 2 steps back this year, not a typo.
Nintendo took 2 steps forward and 2 steps back this year, not a typo.
SpacePirate Ridley
Member
Sadly I couldnt hear well the bowser circus one or the boss in the demo videos, that were the ones that are probably more interesting.
And yes, the main theme sucks, theres no way around that, not even if its orchestrated. Main theme for SMW or SMB3 is amazing, and you dont need an orchestra to say is good. This one is bland and forgattable.
What I loved about SMB2 will finally return. I'm talking about the ability to complete the game with 4 different gameplay: Luigi = high jumps, Toad = fast, etc.
Here is one of the first previews, from Polygon. Sounds great.
In EAD I trust.
Here is one of the first previews, from Polygon. Sounds great.
Metro said:
In EAD I trust.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
Did they really put a damn run button in there again? What are they thinking? They themselfes invented the analog stick and used it perfectly in every Mario game so far, so why do such a stupid thing :/? Do they think people cannot control how far they move an anlogstick anymore? And no nunchuk for multiplayer means no multiplayer for me, this is just ridicilous.