Super Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS: Info Collection - Dojo, Mega Man and Trailer! 2014!

WiiFit is a big name for Nintendo. It also reflects their image during the last gen. It's also part of the Wii brand. The more you think about it the more it makes sense.
 
Who would people who hate WFT rather have? Every suggestion I've seen for a character to take her "slot" (lol) hasn't been nearly as funny or interesting.

I mean, most are just asking for another anime dude with a sword...
 
Also I love to hear people whining about a character not being known in a series that has many characters that only absolute die hard fans know.
 
I want a source.

Yeah, I haven't read anything about this and I doubt they'd drop this bomb so early on. The only thing I've heard about the roster that leans to a more Brawl-sized cast is that Sakurai, around the time this game was announced I believe, said he didn't think that he should just make a bigger roster for this Smash and call it a day. That doesn't mean anything concrete but I always took it as him telling fans to temper their expectations.
 
Only one that looks legit worse is Bowser, aesthetically.

Well Sakurai said they were still tuning up the graphics and this was when he demoed Mario and Megaman who I think look pretty alright, so I'm guessing Bowser will also be cleaned up but was shown off to represent that some old characters are being worked on.
 
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Well Sakurai said they were still tuning up the graphics and this was when he demoed Mario and Megaman who I think look pretty alright, so I'm guessing Bowser will also be cleaned up but was shown off to represent that some old characters are being worked on.

Good to hear! I had a feeling they might be doing that.
 
Sakurai's roster count comment was made years ago, before he even had a development team in place. I wouldn't put any stock into it.

Yep, this guy changes a lot his mind.
Remember when he said Villager would never appear in smash... yeah right.

Ive learned to never think about what he says after brawl. "Pro" smash players using always his quotes to try to guess roster or anything in smash, and deniying people that think outside those quotes, make me laugh.
 
Who would people who hate WFT rather have? Every suggestion I've seen for a character to take her "slot" (lol) hasn't been nearly as funny or interesting.

I mean, most are just asking for another anime dude with a sword...

That one character from that one RPG a long time ago that never got a sequel.
 
It's kind of funny, one of the most creative and loved characters in Smash bros is a made up no name character that represents an entire series of simple handheld toys from the 80s but people love him and are offended by a no name character that represents a multi-million selling series...

Can you imagine Mr Game and Watch if he wasn't in Melee and was instead a new comer to this game? People would probably hate him :/
 
It's kind of funny, one of the most creative and loved characters in Smash bros is a made up no name character that represents an entire series of simple handheld toys from the 80s but people love him and are offended by a no name character that represents a multi-million dollar series...

Can you imagine Mr Game and Watch if he wasn't in Melee and was instead a new comer to this game? People would probably hate him :/

If I recall correctly, people hated the inclusion of G&W in Melee as well as R.O.B. in Brawl.

I was one of the latter, but I've gotten over it now. :P
 
Again, quotes! Sources! He said "not just any third party character could make it into SSB", he didn't mention the roster.
Just went back and watched it. I misheard him the first time. He said that the 3DS version will have the same number of characters as the Wii U version.

I bet that's what is confusing people (thinking he said Wii instead of Wii U). Darn that terrible name!
 
Wii Fit has outsold quite a number of the franchises in SSB combined.

Doesn't mean Wii fit girl is any more appealing to the average person who would be interested in Smash. Or do you except because she is in a lot of Wii Fit households that some of those people will now buy a cartoony mascot fighting game?

If its just about being wacky and internet memes I guess she's great. But if thats the case there are just as many non sensical things they could add as characters that would have more appeal.
 
It's kind of funny, one of the most creative and loved characters in Smash bros is a made up no name character that represents an entire series of simple handheld toys from the 80s but people love him and are offended by a no name character that represents a multi-million selling series...

Can you imagine Mr Game and Watch if he wasn't in Melee and was instead a new comer to this game? People would probably hate him :/

People hated Mr. Game & Watch when Melee came out. Like, a lot. But since over 10 years, he's become a part of the franchise and accepted - part of that reason, I guess, was ROB's inclusion.

If they don't axe ROB, I expect him to become accepted eventually, and the whole hatred will be directed towards Wii Fit Trainer.

Until the next installment of Smash comes out, which will have another left field character that people will hate on, and by that point, G&W, ROB and Trainer will have become accepted and well-liked parts of the series.
 
If I recall correctly, people hated the inclusion of G&W in Melee as well as R.O.B. in Brawl.

I was one of the latter, but I've gotten over it now. :P

I still hate R.O.B. with a passion, but I respect his spot in the game. I love Game & Watch and Wii Fit Trainer is amazing. I really wanted a representation of their casual titles and this wasn't even on my list of potential character inclusions.
 
They should remove Wii Fit Trainer and apologize.

Then they should replace her with someone more deserving who ACTUALLY MAKES SENSE in a fighting game, like Ryu. SF2 was on the SNES and Mega Man is in there so he's the obvious choice. As GOTY 2013 Project X Zone proved, you can't have Ryu without Ken, so Ken should also be in there. And you need female representation because someone made them get rid of Wii Fit Trainer so they should add Chun-Li. Then for balance you need to add Dhalsim, Sagat, Blanka, M. Bison, Balrog, Vega, and Guile, otherwise Ryu, Ken, and Chun-Li would be too powerful for everyone else.

Then Mario and Link are going to start looking weird in comparison to the rest of the cast so you need to remove them, any animal fighters (though they could be redesigned to look like Blanka), any kids, etc. Then we'll finally have Smash Bros. be a real, serious fighting game made for tournaments and people will stop laughing at me when I suggest it for the main stage at Evo.
 
Why is it a waste? Whom would inherit Link's moveset then? You can't just completely overhaul a character's moveset randomly. Imagine Ryu starting to use Tae Bo and throwing volleyballs instead of Hadokens.

I don't understand the "wasted slot" logic in the slightest, ESPECIALLY considering we don't know how many characters the final roster will have, and which other characters we're going to see.
There's no "character slots". The devs decide which character style fits their gameplay idea and roll with it. Without Wii Fit Trainer, there would just be one less character.

And why do you think she is a "no-name"? The 2 Wii Fit titles almost sold over 40 million units together. Even alone, both Wii Fit titles sold TWICE as much as Brawl.

Wii Fit Trainer might not have been an "obvious" choice, but she perfectly fits the mold of Smash fighters.
I'd rather have Wii Fit Trainer as a unique and fresh character than another garbage generic ass Pokemon or Zelda character.

1) I didn't say Link's moveset would have to be completely "overhauled". I said, "refreshed". No one can or should replace Link, but switching up how some of his attacks look and feel is really fuckin important if you ask me. He's been in 3 smash games and he's still using the same majority of attacks. I know they've tweaked his moveset from game to game, but that's not what I'm arguing here. Why the hell didn't WW Link use the grapple hook, instead of the hookshot? Why didn't Young Link use the slingshot, instead of the bow? Why can't SSB4 have SS Link so that he could utilize SS Link's moveset? Instead of the hookshot again, he could use the Whip. This is just an example though. I have no idea if the Link in this game is going to have that attack, but I'll bet money that he won't. It's gonna be the same crap all over again.

2) Like I said in a previous post, the character count has already been decided to be the same as Brawl's. And of course they have to decide on how many characters they want to use in the game before creating them. I don't understand how the term "slots" isn't sufficient enough to get my point across. And how in the hell could anyone have guessed that WFG would've fit SSB's style? It's a fighting game. Yes, she's part of the more unique characters, but she doesn't "perfectly fit the mold of Smash fighters". So what if she's been featured in a game that's sold a zillion copies worldwide. That doesn't mean people want her. Jeezus. That's such a shallow reason to include her. If anything, they're including her in this game so Wii Fit somehow gains more popularity. It's all advertising.
And with that train of thought, ,might as well add Soap from COD, right? I mean, it's a popular title, why not? He'd bring a fresh take on the Smash fighting genre, right? What's the problem?

3) Daisy can fulfill the role of this no-name mannequin. If you didn't know, she's known as being a tomboy who loves sports. That's more than enough to replace WFG, but I'll take it a step further. Just imagine what her moveset could've been. The whole thing could've revolved around sports. Any and all kinds. Plus, she would've been a great female rep for the Mushroom Kingdom, right alongside of Peach. I guarantee you that the majority of people would vote her in over WFG.
And even if Daisy is somehow already featured in this game as a playable character, scrapping WFG and implementing someone else shouldn't be a problem. Look at how vast and colorful Nintendo's character library is alone... There are plenty others just as "unique and fresh" and more memorable than WFG. It DOESN'T have to be "another garbage generic ass Pokemon or Zelda character".
 
Watching some actual play footage, the gameplay physics look like a big improvement over brawl. Play speed looks much closer to melee, though gravity is still a bit lighter. I'm interested to see how this new balance will play.
 
Is it confirmed that there will be more characters revealed this week? I somehow thought there will be a news-draught until the Dojo kicks into full motion.
 
Is it confirmed that there will be more characters revealed this week? I somehow thought there will be a news-draught until the Dojo kicks into full motion.

Well, Sakurai said in an interview that he's planning on uploading a photo of his workplace 5 days a week! So look forward to that instead! :P
 
They should remove Wii Fit Trainer and apologize.

LOL, I'm so tempted to use the forbidden "e" word right now.

Anyway, doesn't anyone remember Mr. Game & Watch? What about Ice Climbers? Nintendo loves throwing odd and obscure characters into these games, which makes them all that much better.
 
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