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[Fou-Lu]

See, Samus is probably the second most powerful character (third?) in Smash going by games.

Second because Super Sonic exists, for the record. Maybe third because Kirby's also technically pretty powerful? God I want Crash Kirby as his new Final Smash...

Composite Link is pretty hax too.

 

[Jawmuncher]

I think besides Nintendo being unsure of how to bring some characters into the 3rd dimension, that game still looks alright and holds up really well overall.

Yeah overall it does.
But still it just falls into the typical trope most early 3D games had.

 

[Unbounded]

See, Samus is probably the second most powerful character (third?) in Smash going by games.

Second because Super Sonic exists, for the record. Maybe third because Kirby's also technically pretty powerful? God I want Crash Kirby as his new Final Smash...

Pit is probably more powerful than all of them considering the stuff he's had to deal with in uprising.

Edit, actually, DK too. I only say so because

Spoiler

He took down the fucking moon with his bare fist.

 

[Vermillion]

Composite Link is pretty hax too.

Pit is probably more powerful than all of them considering the stuff he's had to deal with in uprising.

Edit, actually, DK too. I only say so because

Spoiler

He took down the fucking moon with his bare fist.

These discussions are always fun. So who would we say are the most powerful Smash characters?

 

[Troubled Bat]

These discussions are always fun. So who would we say are the most powerful Smash characters?

Megaman.

 

[Azure J]

See, Samus is probably the second most powerful character (third?) in Smash going by games.

Second because Super Sonic exists, for the record. Maybe third because Kirby's also technically pretty powerful? God I want Crash Kirby as his new Final Smash...

God Tier

Kirby (by virtue of being able to use anything the other person has)
Pit
Endgame ALTTP Link
Ganondorf
Everything Equipped Samus
Super Sonic

That's how I'd see it anyways.

 

[Red Arremer]

These discussions are always fun. So who would we say are the most powerful Smash characters?

The Hulk.

 

[Fou-Lu]

These discussions are always fun. So who would we say are the most powerful Smash characters?

They are all pretty hax. I'd say someone like Ness is probably most powerful though. Not counting Mario with a star.

 

[IntelliHeath]

About 3DS Limitations, it seem that many people were furious about it.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

I don't know if I like how emotionless Mega Man is

I mean, yeah, robot and it actually fits his sprites perfectly

But I guess in my head I always imagined him being happy and determined

 

[Jawmuncher]

The Hulk.

I raise you She-Hulk

 

[Red Arremer]

I raise you She-Hulk

But Hulk Smash.
She-Hulk just sue.

 

[Meelow]

Has this been posted? Much better quality video of the SSB4 live demo:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnc0qgCPch0

"Feel the burn!"

 

[Professor Beef]

But I guess in my head I always imagined him being happy and determined

*insert Capcom treatment joke here*

 

[DaBoss]

I don't know if I like how emotionless Mega Man is

I mean, yeah, robot and it actually fits his sprites perfectly

But I guess in my head I always imagined him being happy and determined

After the abuse Capcom has done to him, I imagine he feels cold and heartless.

DAMN YOU PROFESSOR BEEF!

 

[Spinluck]

IMO all of the characters look better. Especially Mario, Bowser and Samus.

Agreed.

 

[Troubled Bat]

I raise you She-Hulk

Megaman taking in Ultron.

Edit: Emotionless = Determined.

 

[Neiteio]

I don't know if I like how emotionless Mega Man is

I mean, yeah, robot and it actually fits his sprites perfectly

But I guess in my head I always imagined him being happy and determined

No time to emote, too busy pew-pewing

 

[Gonzo The Great]

Why do people think that the Ice Climbers are causing problems when they worked perfectly fine in Melee? The 3DS isn't that weak.

 

[Kangi]

Kirby's technically the most powerful, considering how he can just copy abilities.

Listing each character's achievements isn't saying much, either. Basically every character has saved the universe at least once.

 

[Village]

These discussions are always fun. So who would we say are the most powerful Smash characters?

Peach
She has super stregnth, for some reason this is never touched upon in mario games.
Zelda
Super magic
Ness
He has psychic powers
Lucas
same for lucas
Kirby
super skrull
Ganondorf
Super powerful dimensional warping theif wizard

 

[TrueBlue]

About 3DS Limitations, it seem that many people were furious about it.

Until we know the full extent of these limitations, I think some cautious optimism is required.

 

[Jawmuncher]

But Hulk Smash.
She-Hulk just sue.

A good lawyer is all you need to be the most powerful.

Megaman taking in Ultron.

That might be a bit much for everyone involved.

 

[Platy]

So what's the general consensus on characters leaving the series? Who's more likely to leave the series?

My guess would be Ike, Pokemon Trainer, Lucario, Wolf, Toon Link, Snake (obviously). I'd say Lucas too but I'm not sure how popular he is and since Ness is the only other Mother character, he has a chance to stay.

Edit: I see there's a discussion on the previous page.

Doubt Pokemon Trainer will get the cut ... the problem is 2 characters at the same time, not 2 pokeballs at the same time =P

 

[The Lamp]

Probably talked about already, but the fact that the roster of the game will be smaller because of the 3DS version is a REAL bummer.

Fucking what?
Damn it Sakurai. If designing for two platforms is hindering your development plans don't do it

 

[DaBoss]

Why do people think that the Ice Climbers are causing problems when they worked perfectly fine in Melee? The 3DS isn't that weak.

Because Rich on IGN mentioned Ice Climbers. I'm doubting that Sakurai specifically mentioned Ice Climbers and Rich just added that to the article.

http://ca.ign.com/articles/2013/06/13/smash-bros-wii-u-3ds-might-not-release-at-the-same-time

 

[Red Arremer]

A good lawyer is all you need to be the most powerful.

Your lawyer won't help you if he gets smashed into mush.

 

[NeonZ]

Why do people think that the Ice Climbers are causing problems when they worked perfectly fine in Melee? The 3DS isn't that weak.

They were mentioned as an example in this IGN article, which is seemingly another take on that same interview:

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/13/smash-bros-wii-u-3ds-might-not-release-at-the-same-time

It's not clear if Sakurai himself let it slip or if it's just a pointless comment from the writer though. Considering how it wasn't mentioned in the other sites, it might have been just the writer.

 

[Ignis Fatuus]

Fucking what?
Damn it Sakurai. If designing for two platforms is hindering your development plans don't do it

It's an ambiguous statement that could mean anything from tweaking the characters differently in each version to limiting the size of the overall roster in some fashion. We have no specifics.

 

[Kouichi]

Until we know the full extent of these limitations, I think some cautious optimism is required.

Yes. I say we wait for the full interview on IGN and Kotaku before we get too worried. Hopefully it will help clarify some things.

I still think the roster will surpass Brawl's number.

 

[Not]

At least, it put the rest to Alt. Costume Discussion, without wasting any of our times.

He was vague. He could have been talking about "unlocking" costumes and/or "transferring" costumes. It's too much of a stretch still to say there'll be no alt costumes altogether.

 

[TheChits]

Kirby's technically the most powerful, considering how he can just copy abilities.

Listing each character's achievements isn't saying much, either. Basically every character has saved the universe at least once.

I really want to see the Kirby version of all the new characters

 

[Kangi]

I really want to see the Kirby version of all the new characters

Mega Man will be Kirby with helmet, almost certainly.

Villager will probably just give Kirby his hair.

WFT... hair, I guess? Maybe color scheme, too? This one's a strange one.

 

[Village]

Mega Man will be Kirby with helmet, almost certainly.

Villager will probably just give Kirby his hair.

WFT... hair, I guess? Maybe color scheme, too? This one's a strange one.

I have a brawl mod that does that when he sucks up samus, gives him a little mega buster too

 

[Oblivion]

I don't know if I like how emotionless Mega Man is

I mean, yeah, robot and it actually fits his sprites perfectly

But I guess in my head I always imagined him being happy and determined

"I must succeed!"

 

[FluxWaveZ]

It's been explained many times in the thread that reduced probably doesn't mean less characters. Many, many times.

So "reduced" as in lowering a character's movesets or capabilities, as some suggested? I guess the statement is too vague to say one way or the other, but I would hope the 3DS version wouldn't impact the (better) Wii U version.

 

[Regulus Tera]

These discussions are always fun. So who would we say are the most powerful Smash characters?

Any answer that's not Meta Knight is fucking bullshit and you guys know it.

 

[Oblivion]

I just think Sakurai should just cancel the 3DS version. Waste of resources.

 

[friskykillface]

damn.
Bomberman will never make it in a smash game :'( smh


that guy needs to be in one last title.

 

[Jawmuncher]

Your lawyer won't help you if he gets smashed into mush.

Shit you're right about that.

 

[qq more]

damn.
Bomberman will never make it in a smash game :'( smh


that guy needs to be in one last title.

Blame Konami for buying Hudson soft just to kill everything along with Hudson itself.

 

[Zonic]

From IGN, Namco Bandai Characters Receive No Priority for Super Smash Bros.

 

[PokéKong]

I don't know if I like how emotionless Mega Man is

I mean, yeah, robot and it actually fits his sprites perfectly

But I guess in my head I always imagined him being happy and determined

I'm kinda disappointed by this too. He's so cute but could've been just a liiiiiittle cuter! I feel like it was influenced by Capcom's will to to play things super safe with Mega Man, not remind any western gamers of his potentially embarrassing anime phase, despite the fact that the Mega Man design and art style has been one of the most well defined and consistent thing throughout the years despite some silly box art diversions which are a joke anyway, because all they know is that the one successful thing they did with him in recent history that everyone liked was MM 9 and 10.

 

[Village]

I went to the wrong brawl thread on another side.

Found Wii fit girl x samus art

I do not know how to feel right now.

 

[Oblivion]

From IGN, Namco Bandai Characters Receive No Priority for Super Smash Bros.

Even in cases like adding Pokemon characters, there are a lot of parties involved and there’s a lot of wrangling. It’s much tougher than people can imagine.

Okay, I get the problems with third party characters, but what's the deal with this? Nintendo OWNS Pokeymans!

 

[Unspeakable Evil]

I don't know if I like how emotionless Mega Man is

I mean, yeah, robot and it actually fits his sprites perfectly

But I guess in my head I always imagined him being happy and determined

I'm kinda disappointed by this too. He's so cute but could've been just a liiiiiittle cuter! I feel like it was influenced by Capcom's will to to play things super safe with Mega Man, not remind any western gamers of his potentially embarrassing anime phase, despite the fact that the Mega Man design and art style has been one of the most well defined and consistent thing throughout the years despite some silly box art diversions which are a joke anyway, because all they know is that the one successful thing they did with him in recent history that everyone liked was MM 9 and 10.

Megaman stopped caring years ago. That indifference on his face is priceless.

 

[PokéKong]

From IGN, Namco Bandai Characters Receive No Priority for Super Smash Bros.

That's super harsh, considering not even the Star Fox Assault design of Fox was given any favor.

 

[friskykillface]

welp, just read the back pages and lol ,3DS will hurt the wii u version talk
nooooooooooooooooooooo

since brawl got a double layer disc, double layer cart the 3DS version

why not have only handheld only DS/3DS characters appear for the 3DS version, so no Olimar or ice climbers since they never were on a DS or 3DS game , ice climbers were on e-shop though hmmm

 

[IntelliHeath]

From IGN, Namco Bandai Characters Receive No Priority for Super Smash Bros.

That's cool to know that.

Okay, I get the problems with third party characters, but what's the deal with this? Nintendo OWNS Pokeymans!

Actually, They don't fully owned Pokemon. From what I heard, that Sakurai had hard time to deal with GameFreak and their Pokemon IP for Brawl.

 

[Lord_Byron28]

Okay, I get the problems with third party characters, but what's the deal with this? Nintendo OWNS Pokeymans!

Pokemon Company. I believe with Pokemon, Nintendo doesn't have full ownership of it.