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[Ryce]

Lesser games have gotten more.

In what way? Mario, Pokémon, and Zelda deservingly have over three characters each. The only series in Brawl with exactly three playable characters are:

Kirby - 33 million copies sold, ~20 titles
Star Fox - 11.5 million copies sold, 6 titles

Kid Icarus falls way below those two. The series has collectively sold somewhere around 4-5 million copies with only three entries.

by Ryce's logic Megaman shouldn't be in either. His own company doesn't want him ffs.

I'm completely confused by this statement. What does that have to do with what I'm saying about Kid Icarus? There's absolutely no connection. Mega Man is the protagonist of dozens of games that have sold in the tens of millions. Where's the link to a secondary NPC like Hades?

 

[DaBoss]

Let's call it Masked Marth instead of "Marth".

Would anyone else like some new Zelda characters, in addition to the same old Triforce?

My picks:

Ghirahim.

Not in that outfit

I always forget this since I really can't tell that she is wearing mostly a veil. Just make it more opaque.

 

[Cynosure]

yess
and maybe we can get a DK64-like game out of it in the near future.
I don't care for side scrollers :/

 

[Codeblue]

Did Bowser lose his awesome run?

 

[peanutbutterlatte]

In what way? Mario, Pokémon, and Zelda deservingly have over three characters each. The only series in Brawl with exactly three playable characters are:

Kirby - 33 million copies sold, ~20 titles
Star Fox - 11.5 million copies sold, 6 titles

Kid Icarus falls way below those two. The series has collectively sold somewhere around 4-5 million copies with only three entries.

And yet in one game Kid Icarus manages to create way more interesting characters than Star Fox's furry cavalcade of random animals.

 

["God's Beard!"]

Noire would be cool, too. Pure archer character.

 

[FSLink]

But "Marth" is a unique character compared to Marth. It's not like a Dr. Mario case

I know that, but they wouldn't differ too much gameplay wise unless they want to incorporate lances or a class change system. I'd prefer if they were separate of course, but if "Marth" can't be in, I'd at least like a version with the voice + mask from Awakening as an alt.

 

[Mariolee]

So what're our thoughts on the rumor now that E3 has come and gone?

 

[sorijealut]

Did Bowser lose his awesome run?

That run also made him useless in the game, it is good riddance.

 

["God's Beard!"]

I'd like to see Owain replace the Marth/Roy Fire Emblem swordsman.

 

[MoogleWizard]

Ghirahim.

I'd prefer Impa, she'd be more unique, there are already enough sword fighters IMO.

 

[Ryce]

And yet in one game Kid Icarus manages to create way more interesting characters than Star Fox's furry cavalcade of random animals.

I never said they weren't more interesting. That's irrelevant. It's just that, as a series, Kid Icarus isn't big enough to warrant three playable characters. You can save/bookmark this post if you want and check back in a year to see if I was right. It'll be Pit and Palutena (or just Pit).

 

[Codeblue]

That run also made him useless in the game, it is good riddance.

Yeah, but it looked rad. Also, if Bowser is any good, I won't have fun playing him anymore.

 

[Village]

forget k rool

I would rather have this guy

 

[Linkhero1]

Ghirahim would be an awesome addition. His tongue could be a move.

 

[Cynosure]

Would anyone else like some new Zelda characters, in addition to the same old Triforce?

My picks:

I would prefer anything over Toon Link.
Two versions of the same character holding different slots in the roster is not right. Toon Link should be Link's alternate costume. Same with Dr Mario.

 

[Karsticles]

In what way? Mario, Pokémon, and Zelda deservingly have over three characters each. The only series in Brawl with exactly three playable characters are:

Kirby - 33 million copies sold, ~20 titles
Star Fox - 11.5 million copies sold, 6 titles

Kid Icarus falls way below those two. The series has collectively sold somewhere around 4-5 million copies with only three entries.

Lesser/greater game =/= sales. Get that shit out of here.

 

["God's Beard!"]

Actually, fuck all that. If they add any Awakening characters it should be a paired unit like Ice Climbers.

Even if that means it has to be Chrom/Marth.

 

[SmokeMaxX]

Lol the Miiverse for Smash is amazing.

 

[Comet]

[QUOTE="God's Beard!";63616931]Definitely Tharja.[/QUOTE]

of course its Tharja

 

[demidar]

Ghirahim would be an awesome addition. His tongue could be a move.

I can already imagine the lewd screenshots.

 

[Tadale]

I could do without Zelda/Sheik/Ganondorf/Toon Link to make room for some different Zelda characters. Ghirahim, Impa, wolf Link, or Demise would all be pretty fun.

 

[sorijealut]

Yeah, but it looked rad. Also, if Bowser is any good, I won't have fun playing him anymore.

lol I do understand your concern though. Bowser/ DK had the effect of making your friends feel bad for losing.

 

[Save 'N Quit]

I know people mentioned a Chrom/Lucy pair up would be cool (which it is).

But a team like Robin/Tharja would be so much better.

 

[DaBoss]

I'd prefer Impa, she'd be more unique, there are already enough sword fighters IMO.

He can use physical and magic attacks too and then there is his lick lol. He can also have a counter attack like the FE characters and Lucario.

Another idea I had is for him to get through out the battle the more he gets damaged.

 

[Ryce]

Lesser/greater game =/= sales. Get that shit out of here.

I never said high-selling games are good games. I'm talking about Smash Bros. Look at Mario, Pokémon, and Zelda. Popularity (ultimately determined by sales) dictates series representation more than anything else. All of the franchises with three or more characters have sold at least ten million copies.

 

[RM8]

Ugh. I already mentioned but I really dislike non-Zelda-Link-Ganon characters from Zelda games.

 

[sorijealut]

Ugh. I already mentioned but I really dislike non-Zelda-Link-Ganon characters from Zelda games.

I'll just leave this here.

 

[SloaneRisette]

[QUOTE="God's Beard!";63618366]I'd like to see Owain replace the Marth/Roy Fire Emblem swordsman.[/QUOTE]

This would be great if he had the most hammed up yet mediocre Final Smash.

 

[L Thammy]

Sakurai hasn't included many flavour-of-the-month characters. There's Roy. Then I guess the Mother heroes, but there's no main hero of that series.

 

[demidar]

I've always felt that Link's final smash was a bit generic, it should be a Cucco Squad of Death instead but that's pretty similar to Pit's Army of Angels final smash.

 

[DaBoss]

I'll just leave this here.

I'll just leave this here then.

 

[Linkhero1]

I can already imagine the lewd screenshots.

He and Kirby could make an awesome team.

 

[King Boo]

forget k rool

I would rather have this guy

yes he would be the better king to have in the game.

 

[Chet Rippo]

Would anyone else like some new Zelda characters, in addition to the same old Triforce?

My picks:

If Tingle gets in, he should get his own symbol like Wario and Yoshi do.

 

[DyTonic]

Remove the Ice Climbers -_-

 

[Village]

yes he would be the better king to have in the game.

I guess that would be relevant to your interests.

 

[Azure J]

OK, Tharja it is.

My man. In a perfect world we'd get:

Marth: Pretty much permanently the face of the franchise in Smash because of seniority as the first main character and being a cornerstone in the game from Melee onward.

Chrom + Lucina: The new hotness. Duo'd up to play off of their relationship within Fire Emblem Awakening, one of the defining mechanics in the game (the double arts/offense), and to further explore the Ice Climbers "duality" concept in the roster because let's be honest, that gimmick has WAY more potential that isn't being used currently.

Tharja: An alternative to the mandatory Fire Emblem "sword dudes/dudettes 'r us" that everyone expects. Brings another fun female into the mix and magic based gameplay which can lead to takes better or more alternative than Zelda who is pretty much the only other character in the previous rosters that uses magic.

[QUOTE="God's Beard!";63617871]Noire would be cool, too. Pure archer character.[/QUOTE]

Fuck arrow dudes.

 

[Mariolee]

Remove the Ice Climbers -_-

Didn't Sakurai said that Ice Climbers was his favorite game as a child? I don't think they're getting removed. Sakurai will make sure the tech is in place to get them working on the 3DS.

 

[HK-47]

Remove the Ice Climbers -_-

This kind of talk wont be tolerated.

 

[Red Rudolph]

Remove the Ice Climbers -_-

Yeah, that's not gonna happen. I believe he wanted them in the first game, but couldn't figure out how to get them to work. I'll be supremely surprised if we don't get more Climbers.

 

[Karsticles]

I never said high-selling games are good games. I'm talking about Smash Bros. Look at Mario, Pokémon, and Zelda. Popularity (ultimately determined by sales) dictates series representation more than anything else. All of the franchises with three or more characters have sold at least ten million copies.

Popularity isn't just game sales. Look at Megaman for a great example. The guy hasn't had a game that sold well in a long time, but he's extremely popular. Which is why Capcom peddles fanwear instead of making new games.

If you DID want to look at popularity through sales, a sale/game ratio is what makes sense.

Kirby - 33 million copies sold, ~20 titles
Star Fox - 11.5 million copies sold, 6 titles

Kid Icarus falls way below those two. The series has collectively sold somewhere around 4-5 million copies with only three entries.

Kirby: 33 million / 20 = 1.65 million per game
Star Fox: 11.5 million / 6 = 1.92 million per game
Kid Icarus: 5 million / 3 = 1.67 million per game

This ratio express how broad the fanbase is, which is what would determine popularity if we were looking at a numeric system. With your numbers, Kid Icarus deserves just as much love as Kirby, which is 3 characters.

That would be if this weren't a stupid method of determining roster representation. And it is.

 

[JazzmanZ]

Didn't Sakurai said that Ice Climbers was his favorite game as a child? I don't think they're getting removed. Sakurai will make sure the tech is in place to get them working on the 3DS.

Yes Sakurais favorite game as a Child was Ice Climbers because HE made that game.

 

[IntelliHeath]

Remove the Ice Climbers -_-

NO! They deserved to stay in the game.

Yes Sakurais favorite game as a Child was Ice Climbers because HE made that game.

No, he didn't.

 

[Linkhero1]

Remove the Ice Climbers -_-

But they're fun to play as and unique.

 

[sorijealut]

Remove the Ice Climbers -_-

Go to your time-out corner. right now!

I'll just leave this here then.

Okay, okay. I got you bro.

 

[Red Rudolph]

Yes Sakurais favorite game as a Child was Ice Climbers because HE made that game.

Nope.

 

[Tan]

Remove the Ice Climbers -_-

What even is this.

 

[JoeInky]

forget k rool

I would rather have this guy

Absolutely disgusting

Edit:

Remove the Ice Climbers -_-

The fuck is up with this place?

 

[Codeblue]

What even is this.

The writings of a man who has been broken by grab spikes.