Sonic's expression at the good news is adorable lol
Guys look at ALL DAT SUCK. Olimar and Ice Climbers? Pfft what ridiculous characters.
- Wii Fit Trainer: Proof that GAF has superior taste when it comes to game design choices: The character was near-universally praised here,
ToadAfter brawl it was like who could they add besides bringing back characters they removed from Melee or a 3rd party that's like an obvious inclusion? Only one I can think of is Little Mac, everyone else is obscure to me.
I don't think we Wii Fit Trainer supporters are really Wii Fit fans.But whats done is done no point to keep arguing with Wii fit fans.
Toad
Dixie Kong
King K. Rool
Ridley
Little Mac
I think those characters are well-known enough to be considered major newcomers. I certainly wouldn't call them "obscure" to anyone who even remotely cares about Nintendo games.
Guys look at ALL DAT SUCK. Olimar and Ice Climbers? Pfft what ridiculous characters.
Not really. I'm sure there is just as many people who think she was a terrible character to add instead of fan favorites. But whats done is done no point to keep arguing with Wii fit fans.
Guys look at ALL DAT SUCK. Olimar and Ice Climbers? Pfft what ridiculous characters.
Guys look at ALL DAT SUCK. Olimar and Ice Climbers? Pfft what ridiculous characters.
And with a ZSS winning apex, I think she deserves to go higher. Though I think that may just being Salem being insane.
If you haven't seen this video, it's incredible. Especially the end. Absolutely insane. (metaknight vs zero suit grand finals)
Toad
Dixie Kong
King K. Rool
Ridley
Little Mac
I think those characters are well-known enough to be considered major newcomers. I certainly wouldn't call them "obscure" to anyone who even remotely cares about Nintendo games.
I don't think we Wii Fit Trainer supporters are really Wii Fit fans.
Characters don't move up just based on a single tournament winning. ZSS also has to have a lot of favorable MUs against the top half of the cast on top of... well, being an overall good character; which I'd argue she isn't too great of a character overall compared to someone like Falco.
I think Salem is just an exceptional player; so much so that if he played someone better he'd have probably taken GFs even easier.
Haha, that's awesome!
Guys look at ALL DAT SUCK. Olimar and Ice Climbers? Pfft what ridiculous characters.
My main is last on that list. I don't now how all this is decided but I don't see how Ganon is considered worse in Brawl than he is in Melee. With the exception of being slowed down a bit I thought he was much better in Brawl.
My main is last on that list. I don't now how all this is decided but I don't see how Ganon is considered worse in Brawl than he is in Melee. With the exception of being slowed down a bit I thought he was much better in Brawl.
My main is last on that list. I don't now how all this is decided but I don't see how Ganon is considered worse in Brawl than he is in Melee. With the exception of being slowed down a bit I thought he was much better in Brawl.
Not really. I'm sure there is just as many people who think she was a terrible character to add instead of fan favorites. But whats done is done no point to keep arguing with Wii fit fans.
- Wii Fit Trainer: Proof that GAF has superior taste when it comes to game design choices: The character was near-universally praised here,
In Melee if you got touched by Ganondorf you were eating a lot of damage.
In brawl if you get touched by Ganondorf it tickles.
Guys look at ALL DAT SUCK. Olimar and Ice Climbers? Pfft what ridiculous characters.
Wii Fit fans? I don't play Wii Fit, so I don't consider myself a fan. I am, however, a fan of creative character design and of thinking outside the box. Wii Fit Trainer ticks both of those boxes with a giant charcoal pencil.Not really. I'm sure there is just as many people who think she was a terrible character to add instead of fan favorites. But whats done is done no point to keep arguing with Wii fit fans.
Pretty much Ganondorf is nothing like Melee 'Dorf. His options are hugely limited in high level play, he's much too slow of a character to actually pose a threat. High power doesn't mean much when he can't even get the hits in in the first place. Characters like Falco, Marth, MK, Snake, Wario, etc. roll all over him with their superior mobility options OR superior range.
The majority of his match-ups he is disadvantaged in and thus, he isn't viable to win any tournaments (nor has he won any major ones whatsoever). Tier lists are built with a character's MUs in mind, their tournament placings (whether they are consistently in a certain spot or is never seen in tournament play at all), and... something else. But yeah, once all those are figured out it's left up to a vote to determine the exact placements of the characters in their respective tiers.
Tier lists won't matter to you if you don't play competitively, though in some cases it can find its way into casual play... especially in the case for Meta Knight.
I don't think we Wii Fit Trainer supporters are really Wii Fit fans.
Exactly.
After brawl it was like who could they add besides bringing back characters they removed from Melee or a 3rd party that's like an obvious inclusion? Only one I can think of is Little Mac, everyone else is obscure to me.
My point from the very beginning of this conversation has been that Kid Icarus does not deserve more than two characters. Nothing's changed.
Guys look at ALL DAT SUCK. Olimar and Ice Climbers? Pfft what ridiculous characters.
Tier lists make me sad because my main Lucas is shit.
And it makes me even sadder because I bet Sakurai is gonna remove him for something dumb like Monita or something.
You're pretty much alone in that view man. Half the excitement of a new Smash is the new fighters.
I hope with the new changes Sakurai is doing the balances are better, I hope some moves get slightly nerfed. Like Falco's A move, if you ever play online on Brawl with a friend that's all they did till you racked into the high percentages =/
My main is last on that list. I don't now how all this is decided but I don't see how Ganon is considered worse in Brawl than he is in Melee. With the exception of being slowed down a bit I thought he was much better in Brawl.
I worded my post wrong. I'm sure there are a few they can add, like the protag to their more recent series like a Villager and such. After you get those out of the way you're scraping the bottom of the barrel of characters of, yeah people are aware of them, but the amount that'd want to play as them is small. I'm aware of Waluigi's existence but I do not want to play as him. Dixie or Toad would be way worse than any "waaaaaah clone" character.
The series pretty much has the characters that matter already. Everyone else is like who cares?
Fixed.In my experience it's extremely easy to get killed with Ganon.
I don't think we Wii Fit Trainer supporters are really Wii Fit fans.
And you can join him in the corner. All because they're obscure to you doesn't lessen their significance to the people who know them.
Little Mac has to be in though.
I hope with the new changes Sakurai is doing the balances are better, I hope some moves get slightly nerfed. Like Falco's A move, if you ever play online on Brawl with a friend that's all they did till you racked into the high percentages =/
I laughed when I saw her reveal. I thought it was a joke, seriously. I didn't get it at all... I hated her, thought she was a pure waste of a slot. Really wanted to see someone else more noteworthy get a slot.
but then I saw her gameplay footage...
And I said yup. She fits right into Smash. They designed her really well as a character, Almost to the point where Im thinking about maining her. Her dimensions make her pretty agile, Looks like shes great for footsies and quick kills.
Lesson learned : Can't judge anything still you see the footage
Guys look at ALL DAT SUCK. Olimar and Ice Climbers? Pfft what ridiculous characters.
Guys look at ALL DAT SUCK. Olimar and Ice Climbers? Pfft what ridiculous characters.
Seriously Toad would be the lamest inclusion.
My issue with falco is his blaster. It's too good to have hardly any flaws.