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[Gormless Noodle]

You realize that multiple people work for these websites, right? And that it's perfectly reasonable for one writer to love a game and for another to play after release and have issues with it? Just making sure.

I won't deny that of course. But I've quite often seen sites like Gametrailers, Kotaku etc. Dish out highscores/give nothing but praise and then later on when the general consensus on the web is that, for instance, the gunplay in Bioshock Infinite sucks, they seem to adjust their opinion accordingly.

 

[Metroid-Squadron]

I believe the shooting is intentionally designed to be a little rough until you upgrade it to add tension and emphasize that the main character does not have military training.

Intentionally gimping controls. Yeah, that sounds awful.

 

[AwakenedCloud]

I don't remember any backlash from UC2 at all.

It more or less started around the time Uncharted 3 was coming out.

 

[walking fiend]

hah; reminds me of my U3 memories; underwhelming memories.

Gears gets shit on relentlessly on GAF. I've seen less, but plenty of hate for all the rest, too.

RE4 is complete garbage, for the record.

Beside your factually incorrect info regarding RE4; SMG.

 

[zeroOman]

wow 3h of game play was lost
http://www.gamespot.com/the-last-of-us/user-reviews/812374/platform/ps3/

if I was him I would throw the game in the trash I hate to replay a game.... will no the trash but I will wait 2 month before start agian

 

[NIGHT-]

Another overhyped Naughty Dog game?

You don't say!

Pretty much. They were at their peak during the crash days

 

[walking fiend]

Pretty much. They were at their peak during the crash days

Hey! Jak 2 was superb

 

[Deified Data]

Talk about a backslash?

Besides the autosave glitch, people are complaining about dumb AI, bad graphics, clunky gameplay, repetition and so on.

Where's the catch here? I thought the game was praised universally for a reason.

Still patiently waiting to unbox my copy later tonight.

First, let's get it out of the way that it was praised universally because it was a PS3-exclusive from Naughty Dog.

With that said, that doesn't mean it doesn't deserve the praise - I haven't played it, I don't know. Point being all games are susceptible to overhyping. Same thing happened to Bioshock Infinite. When you describe a game as the Citizen Kane of games it's hard for the real product to live up to its hype. We could stop this by consuming less hyperbolic, corporate-sponsored games journalism, but I wouldn't expect that to happen any time soon.

 

[eXistor]

I never thought for one minute that the game would be worth a 10 or anything near that, so I'm not disappointed. The demo pretty much confirmed this for me. It's a fun, linear, standard third person action adventure with very limited world interaction, but with a great story, characters and presentation.

I always get the feeling that games with an engaging story and characters get overrated by critics. See the Walking Dead, literally the only good thing about it are the story and characters, there's no worthwhile gameplay to speak of yet people love it and call it brilliant. Or Bioshock Infinite: it's got a fun story with some engaging characters, yet the balance is all outta whack and the gameplay is fairly mediocre. I don't get it. Gameplay should always have precedence.

 

[Muffdraul]

I haven't played it yet (mailroom guy just handed me my pkg from Amazon) and I've been avoiding any and all Last of Us threads, but I'm not surprised to hear there's negativity. I mean, when I saw all those 10s it was getting, I knew it was going to be a shitty game.

 

[Das-J]

It's a fun, linear, standard third person action adventure with very limited world interaction, but with a great story, characters and presentation.

So, it's Uncharted 3 with better antagonists? Sounds about right.

 

[KillerTravis]

One negative I'll give it so far after 4 hours is that this game has 0 replayability. So far I don't see how anyone would want to play the game again after finishing it.

 

[dab0ne]

What I dont get is why the clickers can hear me without me moving. They naturally just start to walk close and if they get a certain distance they click/echo me. I think that fucking sucks. They should have to touch me since it's a one hit death.

 

[SirMossyBloke]

Hey! Jak 2 was superb

Jak 2 was the only shit Jak lol

 

[SlickVic]

Meh, not sure I'm seeing this widespread backlash. Some of the points are valid. Save glitches suck. And while I still think this is a pretty game, there certainly are technical limitations, which are perhaps becoming harder to stomach as we see maxed out PC games and what's capable on the new consoles. Personally haven't played enough to really judge the AI.

As for the rest of it (story and the like), game hasn't even been out for a day, feels a bit premature to really get much of a consensus of opinions on the overall product at this point. Especially when TLoU has a relatively lengthy campaign for a linear game (15-18 hours) and not something people are going to just whip through in an afternoon sitting.

 

[Spinluck]

I'm loving it so far. *Shrugs*

 

[Fixed1979]

yeah. that's a pretty huge bug.

but at the same time, I know how journalists often play games for review, and I know that QA often does essentially the same thing, of pretty much playing through things in a single sitting.

it should still have been caught. maybe reviewers should test for these things too, even if that is a bit 'consumer reports'.

It wasn't there when the reviewers played, and it was fixed before lunch on launch day...

 

[5amshift]

I called the bad AI and the bad graphics from back at PAX East when I played it. I knew that shit wasn't alpha build like they said it was.

 

[pharmboy044]

One negative I'll give it so far after 4 hours is that this game has 0 replayability. So far I don't see how anyone would want to play the game again after finishing it.

Trophies or new game+?

 

[pharmboy044]

I called the bad AI and the bad graphics from back at PAX East when I played it. I knew that shit wasn't alpha build like they said it was.

Bad graphics? Uhmmm, no!

 

[Camp Lo]

Same was with Bioshock Infinite. A high praised game by press doesnt mean its good.

Bioshock Infinite was the second coming of Jesus to some but at the end of the day, 7/10 MAX. I can't believe I paid full price for that fucking game. Never again with these highly praised, untested titles. The masses will give it its true rating.

 

[WhiskeyKnight]

RE4 is complete garbage, for the record.

 

[Gabe3208]

Thinking about picking this up. From what I've seen online the gameplay looks really cool, graphics look really nice. So what's the deal then besides the auto-save glitch everyone's talking about? Are the graphics really that bad?

 

[Magic Mushroom]

I haven't played it yet (mailroom guy just handed me my pkg from Amazon) and I've been avoiding any and all Last of Us threads, but I'm not surprised to hear there's negativity. I mean, when I saw all those 10s it was getting, I knew it was going to be a shitty game.

How on Earth is this a shitty game? It really, really isn't.

 

[Muffdraul]

How on Earth is this a shitty game? It really, really isn't.

Oh, haven't you heard? Rave reviews = shit.

 

[bangai-o]

I dunno how much moneyhatting they did, but it had to be A LOT. The game is not as great as the reviews claim. Not at all.

Sony doesnt moneyhatt. Only Microsoft does.

 

[Garibaldi]

It's bloody great. Playing on hard with no listen mode trying to immerse myself in a normal everyday guy type character. The tension in enemy encounters is superb. I just can't shoot. I must save these precious rounds just in case we're cornered.

Please let there be a something useful in this drawer...Damn! Maybe the next one.

 

[dragonfart28]

TLOU getting it's Bioshock Infinite moment, I see.

A lot sooner than expected.

 

[TheBaronOfNA]

To which we come to

"User average is worse because I say so"

"But user average matches my opinion more closely, I'll stick with user average"

"User average gives stupid zeros"

"User average has stupid 10s, too"

"That proves user average is stupid"

"Professional average is also stupid, so even after repeatedly acknowledging the drawbacks of user average, I'll go with the one that matches my opinion more closely"

"That's disingenuous"

"wut"

Because you complained about something with a metric that you know is as shitty.

 

[K.Sabot]

As soon as I saw the Sessler video asking if The Last of Us had to be fun or not, I knew I was probably not going to like this game.

Needless to say, I'm not a big fan of this game's game part.

Did anyone else groan when you turned the corner into the first combat area and saw that it was a bunch of boxes and chest high walls? Even The Last of Us can't escape from it.

 

[chickdigger802]

Predicted this in the review thread


How is aiming in this game? Uncharted 2 or Uncharted 3?

 

[CloakedPuppet]

I haven't played it yet (mailroom guy just handed me my pkg from Amazon) and I've been avoiding any and all Last of Us threads, but I'm not surprised to hear there's negativity. I mean, when I saw all those 10s it was getting, I knew it was going to be a shitty game.

Wow...just...wow. Statements like this serve to remind me not take any negativity around here seriously. After spending the last few hours playing this absolutely brilliant game and then seeing nonsense like this - I don't know what to say. I think I need to go back to rationing my time around the ol' GAF.

Ridiculous.

 

[Dion Blaster]

Trophies or new game+?

Every game has trophies, how would that add to the replay value?

 

[JAYSIMPLE]

The only irritation seems to be the save glitch. The game is, so far, as damn close a perfect 10 as you can get.

this! I know what I like and already this game is up there with half life 2 and resi 4 for me. Its impeccable. I just find my self walking around taking everything in, unbelievable sence of world/environment. I'm in awe at this game.

its beautifully tragic!

 

[PinkCrayon]

Friendly AI is some of the worst I've ever seen.

 

[Viruz]

Friendly AI is some of the worst I've ever seen.

I don't think so. They are here for the story and they don't fuck up (seen or heard) when I decide to go silent. Imagine if the clickers or else hear them, it would be a nightmare. A real frustrating game.
I'm cool with the way it's implemented. Let me play the way I want.

 

[faridmon]

Overhype (which doesn't mean a game is bad, but that people set their standards unrealistically high).

Also, people love being "that guy" to nitpick a critically acclaimed game/movie/restaurant/food/celebrity/anything that can possibly be acclaimed. What you end up with is a lot of "those guys" posting on forums (because really, "those guys" thrive on letting people know how hip they are for disagreeing with the mainstream).

Also, those who have negative experiences (with ANYTHING) tend to be much more vocal than those who have positive or as expected experiences. No one is going to hop on a message board and say "Guys! My toaster works as expected." But if some people have a broken toaster, oh my God, forumgeddon.

Other possible explanations:

- Not being the game they wanted ND to make, so they get mad and disappointed
- Not controlling how they wanted it to control, even if the controls are fine, so they get mad and disappointed.
- Taking one instance of a bad experience (an AI stupidly running into the open, for example) and extrapolating that out as "the AI is bad."
- People expecting the game to be Call of Duty Zombies mode.

And of course, there are some people who are being 100% honest and genuine about not liking the game.

I really dislike how this post explains things. You should have started this post with the last sentence you wrote

You will always get people who like certain game and others who hates it. It natural.
Why, just today, I was reading a post stating that RE4 is hated by someone.

 

[Dennis]

The graphics are fantastic for a 7 year old console.

 

[AOC83]

This will always happen because ND set the bar too high with U2

Not really, since The Last of Uu is the way better game.

 

[BrokenEchelon]

Checks exchanged hands for reviews, revewiers are fanboys, naughtydog can do no wrong.

The game is Uncharted with a zombie skin and a fucking chore to play. I'm nearly done with it now, been playing all day and just want it to be over at this point

This is coming from someone who played UC2 on crushing for fun, multiple times, and spent over a hundred hours playing the MP.

 

[Inversive]

The game is great, fuck knows what shit the whiners are talking about they probably haven't even played it. The auto save problems are bullshit of course, but that isn't anything to due with the gameplay or story.

 

[Camp Lo]

Checks exchanged hands for reviews, revewiers are fanboys, naughtydog can do no wrong.

The game is Uncharted with a zombie skin and a fucking chore to play. I'm nearly done with it now, been playing all day and just want it to be over at this point

What's special about this game that compares to the likes of UC2, if it does?

I'm holding off for the inevitable PS4 port.

 

[BrokenEchelon]

What's special about this game that compares to the likes of UC2, if it does?

I'm holding off for the inevitable PS4 port.

Could you clarify that question? I'm more or less saying there isn't anything special about it. The story is a bunch of established zombie tropes with predictiable plot elements, and it plays like a slowed down Uncharted so you can enjoy all that sneaking/zombie killing fun with more bullshit gravitas.

 

[Pop]

When a game gets rated so high, people expectation rise high too. Every single thing that doesn't meet their expectations, which are very high, causes them to be disappointed a bit.

So those people are just big babies...

 

[Camp Lo]

Could you clarify that question? I'm more or less saying there isn't anything special about it. The story is a bunch of established zombie tropes with predictiable plot elements, and it plays like a slowed down Uncharted so you can enjoy all that sneaking/zombie killing fun with more bullshit gravitas.

That's essentially what I wanted to know. You seem like you're comparing to Uncharted which is the approach I would take to this. I'll give it a shot but I'm willing to wait now.

 

[Ricko Suave]

Seriously? You guys waited half a fucken day to tell me this game sucks? WTF am I supposed to do with the digital copy that's downloading on my PS3 at home? I cant return it! You people are useless!

 

[Neff]

Don't get me started on that "game"...

I'm with you, Log Lady. Uncharted 2 is easily one of the most grotesquely-overrated videogames ever made, and the worst game I was unfortunate enough to buy this generation. I've been soured for life against ND games because of it.

For the record, the Citizen Kane of gaming is Super Mario 64.

I cannot disagree with this because it is a fact.

 

[Camp Lo]

Seriously? You guys waited half a fucken day to tell me this game sucks? WTF am I supposed to do with the digital copy that's downloading on my PS3 at home? I cant return it! You people are useless!

Never buy at launch, just pretend like you would.

 

[Pimpbaa]

What's up with the negativity? It's a highly rated PS3 exclusive game, that's why.

 

[PinkCrayon]

Seriously? You guys waited half a fucken day to tell me this game sucks? WTF am I supposed to do with the digital copy that's downloading on my PS3 at home? I cant return it! You people are useless!

It's not a bad game, just not 10/10 mountain dew game of the year.