It's too big argument is so terrible.
He was big in Brawl as a boss though.
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He was big in Brawl as a boss though.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=62304489&postcount=2996
Note the date and the fact he didn't edited his post.
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Deleted member 231381
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Pikachu also got supersized, yeah. In the game he's 1'04'', whereas Samus is 6'3'' without the power suit, yet in Brawl Pikachu is maybe two-fifths Samus' height.
Valjean Lafitte
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It's too big argument is so terrible.
It was only a matter of time before someone used an NES game and a twelve year old CG clip to bolster their argument.
Said 12 year old CG clip proves you can downsize Ridley without making it look weird.
How is that even supposed to argue the two examples I provided that depicted Ridley just a little bit taller than Samus (and one of them was EVEN in the Super Smash Bros. series)?
Bowser comes in different sizes, in the last game, he was much larger than Mario, and then in the game before that (SMG2), he was as big as a "planet".
Someone used the NES Bowser as a part of their argument, so stop being selective. The CG clip was created for the Super Smash Bros series, so stop being obtuse.
Or maybe he knew what characters were ready to be shown and guessed which would be announced based on that.
To be fair, I mentioned SMB when arguing against Bowser's size. Then again, Bowser's size has been known to change. Even in SMRPG and Mario and Luigi.
Bowser's size has been known to change since forever. Take a look at Mario and Luigi as well as SMRPG.
NES was the first time we saw Ridley so it's a bit unfair considering Nintendo seemed very limited at the time. CGI doesn't mean anything.
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Deleted member 231381
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I tend to forget Sunshine for some reason. -shrugs-
I like how he has pretty much ignored everyone mentioning Olimar. :lol
So if they didnt have a move they have they'd be worse? No shit.
Who? Me? I never played Pikmin so I wouldn't know.
ShockingAlberto
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If Sakurai wants Ridley in, he'll put Ridley in, regardless of size.
No! I was talking about Valjean Lafitte, silly.
peaceiscloser
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"God's Beard!"
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Olimar is A+ tier? I thought I was trolling people.
Unspeakable Evil
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Maybe they are in the game and they just weren't announced at E3.
Yes, I know Bowser changes sizes often. I know that the NES is limited, but it was to counter your point by using SMB as an example.
The CGI shows that Ridley can be downsized and not look abnormal.
Yea, Olimar and Pikmin are probably the ones with the biggest change in size relative to everyone else.
This is how I see it. I don't buy that too big reasoning.
For the previous Fire Emblem discussion: I kinda think Leif would be an ideal choice. He was a major character in the Jugdral series and in Genealogy he could promote to use anything. Anything.... Except dark magic. Anyway, a moveset with magic and bows and lances and axes and just about every major FE element seems like it could make for great variety over sword guys/girls. Unfortunately, he's not exactly the most popular main character (and in his own game, one of the weakest ever along with Roy) so it'll never happen. =\
For current Ridley stuff: I would like Ridley. He'd be rad.
For current Ridley stuff: I would like Ridley. He'd be rad.
I guess that's a possibility...
That's what I've been thinking...
Hopefully we'll see something soon.
Hm. Maybe. Seems more like a lucky guess at this point. A lot of people have been guessing Mega Man since Brawl I think
chaosblade
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Really, this. Convincing people on forums that a character should or should not be in the game or will or will not work is entirely pointless. Chances are the roster is all but finalized at this point, barring some very last minute (possibly rushed) changes.
Yeah I know. I acknowledged my NES argument was weak.
True. I don't know. Like Alberto said of Sakurai wants him in, he'll make it happen.
I hope so. The only character out of those 3 that sounds even remotely interesting is Little Mac (nes version is best version)
Valjean Lafitte
Banned
Unless I was the one who made that argument...I'm not being selective. Words, how do they work.
That CG clip is one of the very first instances of Nintendo utilizing CG in a game and the Ridley shown there is inconsistent with every other representation of him in the Metroid series.
You're grasping at straws here...just give up. Or do I really have to explain to you why the NES game cannot be considered a valid height reference?
I hope not. What they better do is fix rest.
Hm. Maybe. Seems more like a lucky guess at this point. A lot of people have been guessing Mega Man since Brawl I think
To be fair, if it wasn't for Wii Fit Trainer, I probably wouldn't even acknowledge that post since everyone else are wanted/expected characters. lol
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Leif was a fantastic character, but the fact that you'd just shelve him every chapter and let Othin do all the actual work kinda lets him down. I'd love a joint FE4/5 remake that fixed up details like that - Leif deserved better.
Go to quote, Tag is missing????
100% agree w/ you that
balladofwindfishes
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Look at his wing span.
Now imagine him jumping or gliding in the side scroller view of Smash Bros, those wings are coming out and he's going to look massive
Now the Melee movie is a good idea. That's Ridley smaller and better, but still, he has some additional challenges like how to deal with those massive wings.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
But using your logic Krystal didn't use the staff too, so...
And a lot of the characters in Smash don't do the stuff they do in Smash normally. I'm glad Wolf is given as a way to show feral fighting.
He also has access to heavy weapons too you know. The fact that they manage to give him a fresh moveset (barring some specials) despite that "boring" look in the multiplayer is a sign of creativity.
There's been a bunch of NEW / IMPROVED IP Since Brawl's Release. Not saying any of these will make the cut, but it's nice to know there's been a few things recently released on nintendo systems that would not have made the cut for brawl just yet.
Fighter Potential: (does not rule out stage potential as well)
Dillon's Rolling Western
Sakura Samurai
HarmoKnight
Heracles (brought to US for first time)
Chase McCain
Xenoblade (Shulk presumably)
Little Mac (revived IP)
Yarn Kirby
Yarn Yoshi
Sin and punishment 2 (isa /kachi)
Toad as playable character in NSMB Wii/Wii U/3d World (super unlikely)
Kid icarus uprising secondary characters (palutena, hades, medusa, etc etc etc)
Stage/Assit trophy Potiential:
FreakyForms
Pushmo/Pullblox
Ketzal's Corridors
Style Savvy
Steel Diver
WUHU Island (wii fit/wii sports resort/Pilotwings resort)
Fossil Fighters
Art Academy
Picross 3D
Rhythm Heaven (brought to US for first time after brawl)
Zangeki no Reginleiv (unlikely, no western release, maybe assist trophy)
Flingsmash
ExciteBots
Realistically, though, only Shulk/Little mac stand a chance as new characters, everything else will likely be assist trophy/stage. Maybe a KI:U secondary character, MAAAAYBE yarn kirby. Anything else will just have to be old IP stuff.
Fighter Potential: (does not rule out stage potential as well)
Dillon's Rolling Western
Sakura Samurai
HarmoKnight
Heracles (brought to US for first time)
Chase McCain
Xenoblade (Shulk presumably)
Little Mac (revived IP)
Yarn Kirby
Yarn Yoshi
Sin and punishment 2 (isa /kachi)
Toad as playable character in NSMB Wii/Wii U/3d World (super unlikely)
Kid icarus uprising secondary characters (palutena, hades, medusa, etc etc etc)
Stage/Assit trophy Potiential:
FreakyForms
Pushmo/Pullblox
Ketzal's Corridors
Style Savvy
Steel Diver
WUHU Island (wii fit/wii sports resort/Pilotwings resort)
Fossil Fighters
Art Academy
Picross 3D
Rhythm Heaven (brought to US for first time after brawl)
Zangeki no Reginleiv (unlikely, no western release, maybe assist trophy)
Flingsmash
ExciteBots
Realistically, though, only Shulk/Little mac stand a chance as new characters, everything else will likely be assist trophy/stage. Maybe a KI:U secondary character, MAAAAYBE yarn kirby. Anything else will just have to be old IP stuff.
balladofwindfishes
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Nintendo Power: There was a rumor at one point about Ridley being playable. Was that ever a consideration?
Sakurai : I think that would probably be pretty impossible. [Laughs] If we had put our best efforts into it, we might have been able to do it. But he might have been a little slow. Would that be all right? [Laughs]
He's not too big apparently, he's too fast
Gotta go slow
Don't care if it's old, this looks great.
anyway, I'm a huge Metroid fan and I don't really care if Ridley is in or not. I don't know where this whole movement even got started or how it's kept it's steam over the years. He's cool sure, but he's not that cool.
EDIT:
It'd also be great if Samus was that quick in the game, could shoot that fast, recover that fast and have that quick of a jump (not floaty). A boy can dream ...
Valjean Lafitte
Banned
He said no Villager too.
The above exchange between Nintendo Power and Sakurai is the only thing that really casts doubt on Ridley's prospects. I've argued long and hard for his inclusion; he has long been my most-wanted newcomer. I hope Sakurai comes around and revises his opinion on Ridley, much like he revised his opinion on Villager.
