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Super Mario 3D World for Wii U
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Dat JPEG compression.
Outtrigger888
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also, seeing the direct footage in high quality off the eshop makes all the difference. The grass and the trees look amazing. Some may say im over reacting, but i think the artwork is phenomenal.
Zoramon089
Banned
The overworld looks nice. It's the character and the lack of shading and the weird Galaxy glow (and lack of any shadows)
Outtrigger888
Member
Toad looks cute
He is an adorable little guy.
Maybe...but this artwork is great.
It feels like you can jump right in that tube right after luigi. Nintendos artstyle is awesome.
It'd be cool if the in-game visuals were a bit more reflective of these visuals. Looks almost claymation-like with the textures and lighting, I'd kill for a Mario game that would draw from that kind of aesthetic.
EmCeeGramr
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Don't use Imgur for high res pictures if they're jpgs. It automatically adds more compression.
Outtrigger888
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Theres shadows on the objects(see trees), but the character shadows arent reflective of the actual 3d model, but rather(i believe) pay homage to the past games.
Outtrigger888
Member
Theyre not far off, at all.
If you haven't seen this game in person, i promise you, from the eshop high quality vids, it looks great.
Bronetta
Ask me about the moon landing or the temperature at which jet fuel burns. You may be surprised at what you learn.
Net_Wrecker
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Hmmmmmm, I have to agree that the timer kinda has no place in this game, not if there are a lot of levels with this many secrets. What's the point?
I think it's what you mentioned in the post prior about the shadows on the models themselves that was sticking out to me.
On a side note I hope orchestrated music is going to make it in (at least a bit).
Outtrigger888
Member
Please, no wahh-wahh!
It's a PNG.
Zoramon089
Banned
The's the problem. If the characters were more in line with the game it would look MUCH better. The weird glowing and lighting regardless of where they are just makes them stand out. Especially that huge dinosaur thing. If they took away his glow and gave him some shadows he'd look MUCH better.
GAF A60-Rim A
Banned
I was just thinking, what if the world map of the game is very similar to Super Mario World, and contained lots of branching pathways and secret exits, some requiring the spending of green stars.
Although if the grassland plains is really from World 2, it's likely going to be a hodgepodge of random themes again (why do they think we like this?)
Although if the grassland plains is really from World 2, it's likely going to be a hodgepodge of random themes again (why do they think we like this?)
Outtrigger888
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Then, ladies and gentleman, we may have a gem on our hands.
Outtrigger888
Member
i honestly think it would be distracting, especially with four people.
It helps with gameplay to have a circle shadow underneath you, to be able to target when jumping.
Freezie KO
Banned
For all the talk about the 3D effect supposedly helping platforming, I still ended up using the shadow in 3D Land.
What I don't understand with statements like this is that Galaxy is basically just as linear as this game is. Mario 64 and Sunshine allowed real exploration, even though the game world wasn't really that big, but still. Galaxy is just a 3D version of old school 2D platforming, no exploration, just linear path after linear path. But that's not to say it wasn't great, because it was. But that's also confusing, because it just shows that linear 3D Mario game works just like 3D World will work.
People saying stuff like this I think, only complain about the actual graphics of 3D World, not the gameplay, because honestly it isn't that different from Galaxy.
videogamephilosopher
Banned
Maybe...but this artwork is great.
It feels like you can jump right in that tube right after luigi. Nintendos artstyle is awesome.
This is most definitely a beautifully designed advertisement.
Freezie KO
Banned
It's not an ad. It's promoted content.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Bill Rizer
Member
Plexiglass pipes is one nice idea. You actually see what happens when Mario go down a pipe! If you think about it, it's mind blowing!
And they are very stylish too, almost look like a piece of design!
And they are very stylish too, almost look like a piece of design!
Outtrigger888
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Dat gaf insider joke.
Outtrigger888
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Theres a beauty to the art that varies person-to-person.
Silent_Ocarina
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That sounds like New Super Mario Bros. U.
I read a post in this thread about how this the simple goal in this game will be getting from Point A (the beginning) to Point B (the flagpole). I tend to agree here. While many Galaxy levels do appear more linear, the concept of collecting Stars allows developers to come up with more quirky methods of earning them rather than just following an obstacle course. Additionally, the Galaxy games, particularly Galaxy 2, offered a plethora of new concepts involving gravity, Pull Stars, Yoshi powers, the Drill item, and floating on those flower petals. I think the complaints are more valid than simply howling at the camera angle. Super Mario 3D World looks like a joy to explore, but I fear the timer limits that severely.
However, I still have no idea how the game will play from this small morsel. They might surprise me with truly innovative ideas, and I can't wait to sink my teeth into this game. While I enjoyed the Super Mario Galaxy orchestra immensely (as well as its overall scale), I do love the theme that plays during the 3D World trailer.
Carpe Libertatem
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There's generally new enemies in every game, but they also bring back old ones so the new ones might not be as noticeable, I guess. Or it may feel that because Goombas, Koopas, etc are in every game that that's all you feel you see
isn't galaxy full of new enemies?
Maybe...but this artwork is great.
It feels like you can jump right in that tube right after luigi. Nintendos artstyle is awesome.
Mario's pose appears to be a callback to the Mario 2 pose:
Which would make sense, seeing Mario 2's playable characters :V
Outtrigger888
Member
Your memory may fail you, but the nostalgic memorys succeed Nintendo.
Really, dont fix what isnt broken.
Its not easy to come up with a fresh new ideas in gaming today.
A lot of developers are going after realism, in my opinion, is because they are tastless and cant make a fantasy game.
Its not easy. Look at disney, theres brilliance there, and no one compares.
Same with Nintendo.
Bill Rizer
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Well, with chargin' chucks in the game, I will hardly complain on this matter.
Fair enough. I'm sure it's neigh impossible to come up with a new iconic enemy for Mario games going forward, as so much of what players enjoy now is based on that history.
It will never get me to stop playing a Mario game.
As for Galaxy, they definately had great new bosses, so that's true. I think having just recently completed Super Mario 3D Land this year (I know, I'm behind) dulled my memory.
Or my memory just sucks. I'm betting on that.
All I know is I can't wait to see what the grand master finale galaxy/level is about once all 200+ stars/coins are collected. Those NEVER fail to impress. The moment I finished the one in Galaxy 2 was quite a day.
Freezie KO
Banned
Galaxy had a lot of variations on the goombas. Octoombas that spit rocks, hard-hatted ones, boo versions, etc.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
NSMBU had Nabbit and the flying squirrels, just off the top of my head.
I think that's exactly what most people DO want. Something new and fresh, like Sunshine and Galaxy were when they released. Instead, we're getting a sequel to Mario 3D Land, which isn't as exciting.
Bill Rizer
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But 3DLand was only a general trial of the formula, that I hope will be gloriously exploited in World. If we judged by NSMB, we wouldn't have wanted sequels probably, instead luckily we got the amazing Wii and U versions.
Mario's pose appears to be a callback to the Mario 2 pose:
Which would make sense, seeing Mario 2's playable characters :V
Which in turned was a "hacked" version of the Japanese Mario 1 Mario pose:
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Freezie KO
Banned
Baaad example. Comparisons to NSMB are not going to do this game any favors.
I wanted something new. I got a sequel to 3D Land. Will it be fun? Yes. But to me, Mario 3D platformers were surprising and innovative and jaw-dropping. They were more than the sum of their fun. That's why I'm disappointed.
But please don't scare me into thinking this game will begin the descent into the stale, homogenized series of NSMB. That'd be the worst thing for 3D Mario games...
Erm, I still don't particularly want sequels to NSMB, if they stay the way they are. Sure NSMB Wii and WiiU were better than the first, but I'd much rather they changed things up, brought something fresh to 2D Mario.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
As much as I tire of the NSMB characteristics that have long overstayed their welcome (same aesthetic, same world and stage themes, same music, the "New" name being a joke at this point, etc.), I think that if you're going to say that NSMBW and NSMBU weren't worthwhile or shouldn't have been made, I'm going to have to disagree.
NSMBU's challenge mode was probably the best thing to happen to this franchise in years.
GAF A60-Rim A
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Freezie KO
Banned
For me, Wii was where it should've ended. I'm not saying they shouldn't have kept making 2D platformers though. But I would've liked them to feel... well... new.
I just want them to mix up the formula. The three coin collection. Adding/subtracting moves from Mario. Doing something new with the physics or the handling of the game. Completely change up the enemies. Even the feel of the levels is very similar. For me, the sterile aesthetics and the dumb "New" title are the least of the problems.
Honestly, I'm not a game developer. I don't know what exactly I want. That's their job. But I know that the NSMB games are just too similar for me to want any more of them. I have the first three and, despite owning a Wii U, I never got the last one. The only Mario platformer I don't own.
But even in my imaginary world where they make Super Mario Bros. 9 with some exciting new mechanics (more than just new suits), they could still have a Challenge Mode. Nothing stops them from doing that.
As for 3D World, I'll be there Day 1. But because 3D Land sold better than the Galaxies and because it's more accessible for people who can't grasp the 3D games, I have great worries that we'll see the same thing done to 3D Mario as was done to 2D Mario.
catstronaut
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I don't like NSMB either, and I hope they really refine that series. They said they were making it a new start, and the first game was a re-envisioning of Mario 1, but the games we've got since then don't feel noticeably different. I guess you could say that both NSMBWii and WiiU feel like Mario 3. But I'm waiting for tha tseries to make a big jump, and I don't see it happening.
As for 3DLand, I think it sold so well because it's a fantastic game with great ideas. The game's control and core feel are massively improved over Galaxy. I can get to grip with Galaxy just fine, it's just not as fun to play. Though its huge volume of great ideas puts it right up there.
As for 3DLand, I think it sold so well because it's a fantastic game with great ideas. The game's control and core feel are massively improved over Galaxy. I can get to grip with Galaxy just fine, it's just not as fun to play. Though its huge volume of great ideas puts it right up there.