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Major Nelson alludes to Xbox One games being playable long term

FuturusX said:
You do have a reputation. If you had to choose.... X1 right? Come on just let us know...
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I'm an "Xbox fanboy" right? So why even ask? :P

But as I said before, if I wasn't interested in the family share plan, I would get the PS4 as my first next gen system.

Will still get the PS4 later on once more exclusives release -- probably late 2014.

Buying both at launch would be a waste since the majority of games I'm interested in for next gen launch are multiplatform.
 
Been saying this for weeks. We will eventually just find what MS long term goals are here and IMO, they are leading to full blown long term licensed eco-system around games.

I for one welcome the future of digital games.
 
Bgamer90 said:
I'm an "Xbox fanboy" right? So why even ask? :P

But as I said before, if I wasn't interested in the family share plan, I would get the PS4 as my first next gen system.

Will still get the PS4 later on once more exclusives release -- probably late 2014.

Buying both at launch would be a waste since the majority of games I'm interested in for next gen launch are multiplatform.
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I will say this. i don't consider you a fanboy, but you are a contrarian. I can see why it would rub people up the wrong way.
 
Bgamer90 said:
I'm an "Xbox fanboy" right? So why even ask? :P

But as I said before, if I wasn't interested in the family share plan, I would get the PS4 as my first next gen system.

Will still get the PS4 later on once more exclusives release -- probably late 2014.

Buying both at launch would be a waste since the majority of games I'm interested in for next gen launch are multiplatform.
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And there we have it. A job well done sir.
 
As more of these threads pop up I can't help but wonder why Microsoft is playing absolutely everything so close to their chest? Really what benefit is it giving them to keep every aspect of this console and policies such a closely guarded secret? Why the hell didn't they speak with the press after E3 and clearly lay out their plans?

This whole Information Mystery Machine MS is driving seems so backwards to me. The fact that Microsoft is not just addressing these questions once and for all and settling this bullshit is creating so many questions that shouldn't even need to be questions in the first place. The level of doubt they are placing around a fricken video game console is beyond perplexing, especially since I can't figue out the benefit.
 
Bgamer90 said:
Anyone thinking that a huge portion of games on the PS4 or Xbox One will be exactly the same when they pop that disc in 10 years from now is going to be disappointed I think.

Many games will many have online features, therefore making the game either useless when its servers go down or (possibly) unplayable.

No matter what you choose in terms of games (physical or digital) this is how MANY games will be next gen.

Heck, that's already the case now for some PS3/Xbox 360 games -- and that's within the gen.


But, I could be wrong. We'll see.
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yeah there is a ton of games coming out that are online only - if those games turn out to be uber successful I can see the transition of being seamlessly online taking over some big AAA games.

p.s. you're not a fanboy but i know some people are dying to paint you as one. lol
 
Also, another thing to consider, the person that is creating these fail states now in DRM checks most likely won't be at Microsoft 10 years from now. At that point, this statement will have no relevance on the cost analysis being done by Microsoft.

If you look at Valve who is a privately owned company headed by the founder, Gabe Newell who is a leading mind in game creation and software.

With Microsoft, you have a publicly traded company whose mission is to create consistent growth for shareholders. This decision would be made by someone like a CEO that has no connection with the Games business on any personal level. Enterprise is the big cash cow at Microsoft.

I find it hard to take them at their word when they are the ones creating the fail state in periodic online DRM check-ins.
 
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Seriously, guys, don't buy this console. Stop supporting this bullshit.
 
ThoughtsOfSpeaking said:
I will say this. i don't consider you a fanboy, but you are a contrarian. I can see why it would rub people up the wrong way.
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That's pretty fitting.

I state the way I feel, regardless of if it's against popular opinion at the time.

Trust me, I went through this on some forums back in 2006 when the majority of people said the Wii would completely flop when I personally saw how audiences outside of the ones that posted on forums could be attracted to the motion controls (since they are easier to understand than button combos).

FuturusX said:
And there we have it. A job well done sir.
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Thank you sir.
 
Satchel said:
From Kotaku

They asked him about the concerns many of us have about the long term viability of our game library.



While its not quite official confirmation, it's good to know they're aware and will look into allowing us to use this thing well past its end cycle.

This was my only concern about the console, so its good to know it most likely won't be an issue.

lock if old. Search from phone wasn't great. Posting from phone so hopefully thread is ok.
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Really? Really OP? He says shit all about the issues you concern about? Do you have to justified your purchase of the Xbone like that?
 
sleeping_dragon said:
Really? Really OP? He says shit all about the issues you concern about? Do you have to justified your purchase of the Xbone like that?
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Dude, just stop. There's nothing to justify.

I like everything about the One. I've been saying all along my main concern was the long term use of my library, as I'm a collector. My post history is there, you shouldn't have to dig far to find it.

I saw an article about said concern, knew others had similar concerns so I made a thread about it.

Just stop. Especially given your post history.
 
harSon said:
Anyone who thinks Xbox One games aren't going to be playable long term are delusional. They'll just patch the DRM out of the console once it gets to the point where they're no longer supporting the system. Using the original Xbox as an example of why they'll simply let the platform be unplayable in the distant future is completely misguided. There's a big difference between having to host servers for games with little to no active users, and allowing consumers to play the games that they've purchased 10-15 years down the line.
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Considering the ridiculous and ongoing garbled, incomplete and contradictory information coming out of Microsoft right now, I have an extremely difficult time believing they've thought this through. If it's such a no-brainer, then they should be able to tell us, right now, when the authentication servers will be shut down, and what will happen to disc, DD, and shared games at that point, and also tell us whether lending and re-selling will still be possible afterwards.

Until they do, I'm going to assume the worst. That's pretty much what they've delivered so far.
 
Lol, if this is as detailed as it gets, then turning off the servers is a stone cold lock. They will need to issue a very declarative statement that leaves no room for doubt.
 
Bgamer90 said:
Anyone thinking that a huge portion of games on the PS4 or Xbox One will be exactly the same when they pop that disc in 10 years from now is going to be disappointed I think.

Many games will many have online features, therefore making the game either useless when its servers go down or (possibly) unplayable.

No matter what you choose in terms of games (physical or digital) this is how MANY games will be next gen.

Heck, that's already the case now for some PS3/Xbox 360 games -- and that's within the gen.


But, I could be wrong. We'll see.
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You do know that all PS4 games are capable of being played entirely offline right? That's not the case with the Xbone.
 
Megatron said:
Lol, if this is as detailed as it gets, then turning off the servers is a stone cold lock. They will need to issue a very declarative statement that leaves no room for doubt.
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MS hasn't been crystal clear about anything regarding the xbone except for the fact that titanfall will be available for it.
 
Ms is clearly lying to you and hopes to shut down gaming servers in three years. Then you'll have to use it for only tv and sports. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaba
 
If anything, this highlights how short sighted their digital plans are. I doubt they will keep the servers on for too long after that generation ends. Then it's goodbye to your whole Xbox collection, that isn't already installed on your HDD.
 
Just because its the start of a generation does not mean we should be looking towards the end of it. Video game preservation is something that is already a difficult thing. In terms of legality its a very grey area. Of course Im talking about emulations, and how hard it is to repair old arcade cabinets. If anything we should be looking to the past, and realizing that games from a different generation should be protected for future use. If not just for academic reasons. If you dont know where you come from then you dont know how you got there.
 
Zephyrus said:
*sigh*

Seriously? That's your counter argument?

You do realize that every patch you download to your HDD stays there unless you manually delete it, right? So why even bring that up? And how does that even tries to counter the fact that you can play the single player portion of a game?

Irrelevant. Some games could have the feature. Doesn't matter if developers implement it or not. If it's there, you can play multiplayer offline.

You expect Microsoft to keep the xbox one servers online years after the gen as ended or even if the console tanks so hard that it's discontinued.

Go play Halo 2 now on the original xbox. Tell me what a great MP match you had.

You fool no one. You're as pro-microsoft as they come.
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Completely unrelated but I feel it's worth mentioning you can still play original xbox titles online though XBC, a free service that uses a system link trick. I still play Halo 1 and 2 on it occasionally. Of course this workaround won't work for 360 or Xbone as MS decided to block the service at a hardware level.
 
X1 servers will be shut off at some point, and whether that means shit like the 24hr checkin is going to go away or not depends on whether they build the system for that right now, because they sure as hell won't do it when the time comes for the servers to shut off and Microsoft won't see a dime from that "investment".

Larry's "LET'S JUST GET THIS SHIT RELEASED" attitude doesn't instill much confidence that he or anyone at Microsoft gives a shit about protecting the consumer's property any time soon.
 
This is the problem.

Microsoft, will servers be active 5 years from now?

Ofcourse.

10 years?

Definitely.

15 years?

I don't see why not.

20 Years?

I think so.

40 years?

Well a lot of us won't even be alive by that point? Are you worried about playing these games in 40 years?

I'm out.
 
It's hard enough to spend $60 on a game. To know the fact that you need daily permission to use it and eventually will become a useless piece of plastic in the future....

How people will do it I'll never know.
 
EatinOlives said:
X1 servers will be shut off at some point, and whether that means shit like the 24hr checkin is going to go away or not depends on whether they build the system for that right now, because they sure as hell won't do it when the time comes for the servers to shut off and Microsoft won't see a dime from that "investment".

Larry's "LET'S JUST GET THIS SHIT RELEASED" attitude doesn't instill much confidence that he or anyone at Microsoft gives a shit about protecting the consumer's property any time soon.
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A patch that removes check for authentication. Probably a registry setting. Probably take the security lead ten minutes to do. Admittedly, there's always more to it...
 
He says, "I hear you," and "Let's just get it out there first," and you somehow read that Xbone games are set for the future? Sorry, I'm not seeing any alluding going on; just PR speak.
 
weekend_warrior said:
You do know that all PS4 games are capable of being played entirely offline right? That's not the case with the Xbone.
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All PS4 games?

Doesn't Destiny require Internet?

Pretty sure there will be more that will require Internet and/or have many connected features once the generation progresses. Heck, there were already a decent number of games this gen that were basically multiplayer only -- therefore requiring Internet.
 
lastflowers said:
A patch that removes check for authentication. Probably a registry setting. Probably take the security lead ten minutes to do. Admittedly, there's always more to it...
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Like the publishers that will rip MS a new one and at the very least demand a renegotiation of licensing contracts? There's a humongous amount of lawyers involved, so don't believe for one second they will do that lightheartedly. By that point in time renegotiations may even be impossible. People die. Corporations go under. Rights get shuffled around.

Even your ... optimistic scenario requires a nontrivial investment from Microsoft at a point where it will no longer profit them and might actually harm income from future "HD rereleases" on the next platform. They are a business.
 
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