Metal Gear Solid V (PS3/360/PS4/XBO/Maybe PC) - Extended 9 minute E3 trailer

I'm just hearing about the Hayter/Gray Fox/Sutherland theory. It's seems pretty ridiculous to bring in Sutherland of all actors, especially someone of his profile, for a switcheroo gimmick.

Then again, this is Kojima. So I won't rule it out. I do agree with the theory about Haytet voicing Snake on GZ, however.
 
I both love and loathe the fact that this series, with only a TRAILER can cause this much speculation and wild theories to pop up. I love it because it promotes some really fun discussion and loathe it because sometimes people come up with the CRAZIEST shit hoping it comes true. I shake my head and smile at this thread at the same time :)
 
ezekial45 said:
I'm just hearing about the Hayter/Gray Fox/Sutherland theory. It's seems pretty ridiculous to bring in Sutherland of all actors, especially someone of his profile, for a switcheroo gimmick.

Then again, this is Kojima. So I won't rule it out. I do agree with the theory about Haytet voicing Snake on GZ, however.
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I was thinking about that when it was first revealed.
It could go 2 ways if it is a trick.
1.Sutherland will play a Snake in the movie, hired him for the game instead of some other random voice actor or regular actor
2. You are replacing an iconic voice(for whatever reason), instead of hiring great quality no names like Cygan & Doyle you get the biggest name actor you can to try and put a positive spin on it for the general audience.
 
Graphics Horse said:
Someone doesn't know their history, this is set before the Taliban got in. Everyone was wearing bikinis back then.
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Yep. Afghanistan was known as the go-to destination for all women longing to walk around in bikini-tops and thongs in the 70s and 80s. Bikinis also used to be the preferred clothing for women exploring the south pole in the 50s.
 
Interesting interview from CVG.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/414360/interviews/e3-interview-kojima-on-mgs-5/

Here is a quote including a few details on Ground Zeroes.
To clarify, will Ground Zeroes be part of The Phantom Pain or released separately?

So you can think of it that Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain is the big game and within that the first prologue to it is Ground Zeroes.

As you saw in the trailer, The Phantom Pain provides a vast world where the player can really go anywhere and get lost. But for past Metal Gear fans used to a linear experience it would probably be hard for them to get used to that without having a prologue and a way to get used to it. So Metal Gear Solid Ground Zeroes is an interpretation to really give them a very short, smaller version of that scale.

In The Phantom Pain there are real-life day and night cycles but in Ground Zeroes the weather doesn't change and it's at night time. This is to help the past Metal Gear fans to get used to the fact that it's now open-world.
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I'm getting the feeling that Ground Zeroes might actually be more like Dead Rising 2 Case Zero with a digital only release should Konami decide to sell it separately.

Thoughts?
 
Red-Shift said:
I'm getting the feeling that Ground Zeroes might actually be more like Dead Rising 2 Case Zero with a digital only release should Konami decide to sell it separately.

Thoughts?
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That is what I expect. There were rumours about it being a digital only title that might even have predated the VGA trailer, but I'll have to check if that's right.

It could be that they've changed their minds, but it sounds like it's something under consideration, might want to nail down a release date for the main game before they decide.


StanTowers said:
Tanker Episode and Virtous Mission. That is what i am thinking of it.
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The thing about the tanker episode was if you answered the questions in a certain way and say you'd never played MGS, the game skips straight to the Plant chapter. This could be similar in that people who haven't played Peace Walker can skip GZ, and just start the game where you're slowly relearning everything after a coma. But playing the prologue might involve handing over money rather than answering a questionnaire this time.
 
R0nn said:
Who the hell is Paz?

I should go and play Peace Walker right...?

Right, okay! ;(
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Right now, its great anyway.
make sure you complete Chapter 5 then 100% it.

Red-Shift said:
Interesting interview from CVG.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/414360/interviews/e3-interview-kojima-on-mgs-5/

Here is a quote including a few details on Ground Zeroes.


I'm getting the feeling that Ground Zeroes might actually be more like Dead Rising 2 Case Zero with a digital only release should Konami decide to sell it separately.

Thoughts?
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If they release them separately, GZ really needs to be released way ahead of Phantom Pain
If PP is a spring release then GZ should be this holiday for example.
Bundle it with MGO and it would sell better and probably for more. include free DLC when you eventually buy PP.
 
Graphics Horse said:
You won't be laughing once you have to sit through a 10 minute codec conversation about Afghan swimwear.
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Snake: What's that she's wearing? It looks.... interesting
Otacon's Dad: It's called a bikini.
Snake: A bikini you say? .....
Otacon's Dad: The name bikini comes from the Bikini Atoll. Interestingly, nobody on the atoll would wear a bikini. In fact, the french used the atoll as a testing ground for nuclear weapons, so you wouldn't want to be on the atoll at all.
Snake: I don't care about that, tell me about the enticing bikini
Otacon's Dad: Sigh. Some people say that the bikini was originally a joint GRU-KGB design, meant to render the males in the West incapable of thinking about anything else.
Snake: ....
 
I'm a Hayter fan, but Kiefer sounds good in this trailer. His bit at the start about "Why are we still here? Just to suffer?..." etc. was pretty powerful. I don't think Hayter could have pulled that off as well as Kiefer did.
 
I bought a PS4 just to play MGS4. I layed down the 500 bucks for the bundle, just to get peace. I just wanted the conclusion. But Kojima won't rest. He won't let me move on.


His pull is too strong. No fictional franchise matters as much to me as MGS does. As insane and crazy this is, I find it perfect. It's the perfect imagination, and MGS5 goes directly in line with what this series is about.


I just wish there was a guy shooting bees out of his hands:( At least the sniper chick might be cool. Great granddaughter of The end perhaps?:D




Also... I don't understand why they got Kiefer. Kiefer sounds good, but.. David Hayter is Snake. He really, really is snake. I connect through the character with his voice, and I loved his voice in all the games.
 
Screaming Meat said:
Fixed. :P
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Thanx :p

Although I meant the talk about Talibans :p But Kojima loves weird shit so I won't be surprised :p

And YES I AM expecting bikini talk now seeing how he loves putting posters and playbooks and turning RADARs into videos of beautiful babes :D

Vigilant Walrus said:
I bought a PS4 just to play MGS4. I layed down the 500 bucks for the bundle, just to get peace. I just wanted the conclusion. But Kojima won't rest. He won't let me move on.
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You must have very solid contacts to get PS4 and that too with MGS4 on it :p
 
Are we sure she isn't half naked because she hasn't had time to change clothes since getting tortured?

Meh, maybe she just has bad fashion sense haha.
 
Angst said:
Snake: What's that she's wearing? It looks.... interesting
Otacon's Dad: It's called a bikini.
Snake: A bikini you say? .....
Otacon's Dad: The name bikini comes from the Bikini Atoll. Interestingly, nobody on the atoll would wear a bikini. In fact, the french used the atoll as a testing ground for nuclear weapons, so you wouldn't want to be on the atoll at all.
Snake: I don't care about that, tell me about the enticing bikini
Otacon's Dad: Sigh. Some people say that the bikini was originally a joint GRU-KGB design, meant to render the males in the West incapable of thinking about anything else.
Snake: ....
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Didn't Big Boss attend to the Bikini Atoll nuclear tests prior to MGS3 ?
and thus his hypofertility
 
I have a feeling that MGS5 will be to MGS4 what MGS3 is/was to MGS2. Both are prequels and both have the potential for a superior storyline.
 
Damn it, the more I watch these trailers the more I'm beginning to think we're not really playing as Big Boss after Ground Zeroes.

Just as Ocelot was hypnotized and had Liquid's right arm so is Punished Snake reprogrammed into thinking he's Big Boss, with a robotic left arm. The hallucinations could be a side effect from the process of mind programing. "V has come to" might be referring to this person, that he's woken up from the mind programing process. For all we know, the real Big Boss might've even staged the destruction of Mother Base and joined the Patriots, starting his grand scheme of... nanomachines. Punished Snake could be the phantom of Big Boss' soul, the image of the heroic soldier that he's abandoned and betrayed when he came back to the Patriots.

As Big Boss said at the end of MGS4, "Under certain conditions, someone can be made to play a specific role... Act like someone else."
 
ichtyander said:
Damn it, the more I watch these trailers the more I'm beginning to think we're not really playing as Big Boss after Ground Zeroes.

Just as Ocelot was hypnotized and had Liquid's right arm so is Punished Snake reprogrammed into thinking he's Big Boss, with a robotic left arm. The hallucinations could be a side effect from the process of mind programing. "V has come to" might be referring to this person, that he's woken up from the mind programing process. For all we know, the real Big Boss might've even staged the destruction of Mother Base and joined the Patriots, starting his grand scheme of... nanomachines. Punished Snake could be the phantom of Big Boss' soul, the image of the heroic soldier that he's abandoned and betrayed when he came back to the Patriots.

As Big Boss said at the end of MGS4, "Under certain conditions, someone can be made to play a specific role... Act like someone else."
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Lord no
 
Reading this thread is hilarious. My god has Kojima ever screwed the pooch with respect to the timeline of the series, retcons and character progression/regression. It's an incomprehensibly convoluted mess. I doubt even Kojima knows whats going on anymore.
 
gotoadgo said:
We don't know for sure but I think it's assumed it was a trap of some sort for Big Boss planted by Skull Face. Or a message.
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"It's not about money, it's about sending a message." - The Joker

There's one problem with some of these crazy twists - it makes me far less invested in the Big Boss character, which I already was due to MGS3 and PW. If the post-coma Big Boss is a fake and brainwashed, then why the hell should I care about Big Boss' journey towards hell?

After playing PW, I seriously doubt Kojima will do something like this, and you can take that to the bank.
 
Angst said:
Snake: What's that she's wearing? It looks.... interesting
Otacon's Dad: It's called a bikini.
Snake: A bikini you say? .....
Otacon's Dad: The name bikini comes from the Bikini Atoll. Interestingly, nobody on the atoll would wear a bikini. In fact, the french used the atoll as a testing ground for nuclear weapons, so you wouldn't want to be on the atoll at all.
Snake: I don't care about that, tell me about the enticing bikini
Otacon's Dad: Sigh. Some people say that the bikini was originally a joint GRU-KGB design, meant to render the males in the West incapable of thinking about anything else.
Snake: ....
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Kojima please hire this man!!!! #dead
 
Persona86 said:
Are we sure she isn't half naked because she hasn't had time to change clothes since getting tortured?

Meh, maybe she just has bad fashion sense haha.
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mehdi_san said:
The way he explained it in the podcast made it sound like that's not the case. He said he knows people are gonna ask why is a sniper naked, that would only make her more visible in the desert. And he said that there's a reason why she does that, but he can't tell yet. And I think the black paint around her eyes disappearing is a hint of what her secret ability is.
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xASHLERx said:
She could have octocam chameleon ability, insert Kojima plot devise to explain how it works.

Though it would seem a little redundant. I much rather see something new...

I would have her do something like be able to change her skins Contrast, thus altering her luminescence and pigmentation. This would make her indistinguishable when sniping, and hide her in both the shadows and the highlights of any particular environment she finds her self in.
The appearance of her race could change as well, this would add to her infiltration/assimilation in to a local area of any of her missions.
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Angst said:
Snake: What's that she's wearing? It looks.... interesting
Otacon's Dad: It's called a bikini.
Snake: A bikini you say? .....
Otacon's Dad: The name bikini comes from the Bikini Atoll. Interestingly, nobody on the atoll would wear a bikini. In fact, the french used the atoll as a testing ground for nuclear weapons, so you wouldn't want to be on the atoll at all.
Snake: I don't care about that, tell me about the enticing bikini
Otacon's Dad: Sigh. Some people say that the bikini was originally a joint GRU-KGB design, meant to render the males in the West incapable of thinking about anything else.
Snake: ....
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I now consider this conversation canon
 
Angst said:
Snake: What's that she's wearing? It looks.... interesting
Otacon's Dad: It's called a bikini.
Snake: A bikini you say? .....
Otacon's Dad: The name bikini comes from the Bikini Atoll. Interestingly, nobody on the atoll would wear a bikini. In fact, the french used the atoll as a testing ground for nuclear weapons, so you wouldn't want to be on the atoll at all.
Snake: I don't care about that, tell me about the enticing bikini
Otacon's Dad: Sigh. Some people say that the bikini was originally a joint GRU-KGB design, meant to render the males in the West incapable of thinking about anything else.
Snake: ....
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Is it wrong that as I read the conversation, I HEARD their voices in my head? Should I visit a Doctor?
 
Only just spotted that Snake can finally climb up onto high walls now (immediately after the cigar break). Not sure what they've done but they must have given the controls a good shake-up again. I think there must be a 'stand up'/climb button that's different to the crouch/crawl/bellyflop button, there seem to be too many seamless transitions to do it all with X
 
Graphics Horse said:
Only just spotted that Snake can finally climb up onto high walls now (immediately after the cigar break). Not sure what they've done but they must have given the controls a good shake-up again. I think there must be a 'stand up'/climb button that's different to the crouch/crawl/bellyflop button, there seem to be too many seamless transitions to do it all with X
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In PS3 the X may be pressure sensitive. Press slightly, and snake will change stance; press strongly, and he will crawl...

In the Xbox360, don't have a clue... maybe tap, and he will change stance, hold and he will crawl? Tap while crawling and he will go to a medium high stance, tap twice and he jumps?

As for the climbing I asume he's going to climb with the action button and he won't be able to climb just about anywhere... same with jumping...

Don't know... perhaps there is a jump button and when pressed next to a wall he will climb it instead of jumping...

Also, we haven't seen the HUD (will there be stamina bar? very likely) What about items? Will there be a maximun capacity a la PW, or an unlimited stash with limited pocket capacity a la MGS4....
 
Solo said:
Reading this thread is hilarious. My god has Kojima ever screwed the pooch with respect to the timeline of the series, retcons and character progression/regression. It's an incomprehensibly convoluted mess. I doubt even Kojima knows whats going on anymore.
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Kojima: As you can see in this trailer for MGS6, the character of Solidus Snake appears as a younger man. As you can see, both of his eyes have been gouged out and all of limbs severed and replaced with robot limbs.

"kojima that's not how he was in mgs2 years later."

Kojima: Yes, but you never actually saw him outside of his exoskeleton.

"kojima, solidus was the president of the united states, why would nobody notice or mention this"

Kojima: Moving on, here we see Otacon's dad building Metal Gear TX-55 in Outer Heaven.

"that was dr. madnar who built Metal Gear"

Kojima: What?

"dr. madnar. he was in the msx games. he died in zanzibar. snake shot him with a rocket."

Kojima: No, no, Madnar was mentioned in MGS4. He was still alive.

"yes both of those things are unfortunately true"
 
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