Super Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS: Info Collection - Dojo, Mega Man and Trailer! 2014!
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Troubled Bat
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I'm already expecting him, since he's starting to get more inclusions from things you've listed. Then including things like Mario Kart. DK has his little buddy, Bowser needs his son along with him. It'd be great, plus he could have a pretty unique moveset if the brudh is involved.
dryuriev7777
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I'm just saying, put in Dark Samus with the phazon shotgun and the divebomb morph ball and DoT corruption attack(s) and such. So much better than Ridley.
Also Palutena because Palutena.
Also also, give it about 3 or so weeks after having this game and my selection will not move from "Random Character"
Also Palutena because Palutena.
Also also, give it about 3 or so weeks after having this game and my selection will not move from "Random Character"
Spring-Loaded
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But Ridley would less likely have moves copy/pasted from Samus
Fidelis Hodie
Infidelis Cras
I mean, it just seems the same thing as updating link or mario to their newest iteration, not that it's really happened that way.
I think I'll be maddest if Mario still has FLUDD in the end. Silliness.
Which is all I'm really looking for anyway. Love me that mask and design. And Awakening in general.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
No, that would be like if we had had Ninten as the MOTHER representative for two entries only to get him replaced by Ness in Brawl.
Sir Ilpalazzo
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I think it'd be more like if Ninten were suddenly replaced by Duster.
Pichu could work pretty sweet as Pichu Bros. in a similar manner to the Ice Climbers. That would also be a chance for references to obscure Pokémon spinoffs and Pokémon Mini.
Troubled Bat
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That small chat of EarthBound made me think of Kumatora again, who I want in SSB4.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
That was the plan at first, the only reason lucas didnt replace ness in melee was because of time issues with his game.
Sakurai has no issues replacing a dude.
Spring-Loaded
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Power Glove item.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
[citation needed]?
Fidelis Hodie
Infidelis Cras
Or Master Hand super boss fight with it on him...
with tom nook controlling it all.
aww yiiissss
My brutha!
Professor Beef
Banned
There's no citations whatsoever on that page.
Huh. That's a good idea for the Miis' movesets. Obviously, for a character like Captain N or Nester too.
kumatora would be great. She could have all the colors of the rainbow and white as alt.
Beat Master Hand & Crazy Hand fast enough, fight Power Glove....Hand.
Speaking of NES accessories, can we get the NES Zapper as an item now? Maybe replace the Ray Gun since that wasn't really from anything?
Believe what you want, what I said is commonly known knowledge and is on a bunch of websites, videos and a slew of other things. But again believe what you want.
Learned something a few seconds ago.
NESS
SNES
* mind explodes *
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
About as reliable a source as We Will Rock You. Never mind that it doesn't say anything about Ness being removed in the first place.
Sir Ilpalazzo
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http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n01/n64/software/nus_p_nalj/smash/flash/0717/index.html
According to Itoi, he's actually named after the NES, not the SNES.
Re: Mario Extras
You all probably could tell, but the ones I back strongest are Daisy and Rosalina. More women-folk, one's a cosmic witch/magician and Daisy oozes personality in Mario spinoff titles. Waluigi should be put with Wario if anything, not as a psuedo Mario series slot.
Re: Mother
I'd totally be down for some Kumatora. The video game world needs more tomboys.
Re: Marth
Y'all ninjas crazy if you think Marth could/should/would be replaced by Lucina. I still think the best idea thus far is pairing Chrom and Lucina up Ice Climbers style and making a fancy ass swordplay duo then using another spot on a mage (Tharja pls) or Anna.
You all probably could tell, but the ones I back strongest are Daisy and Rosalina. More women-folk, one's a cosmic witch/magician and Daisy oozes personality in Mario spinoff titles. Waluigi should be put with Wario if anything, not as a psuedo Mario series slot.
Re: Mother
I'd totally be down for some Kumatora. The video game world needs more tomboys.
Re: Marth
Y'all ninjas crazy if you think Marth could/should/would be replaced by Lucina. I still think the best idea thus far is pairing Chrom and Lucina up Ice Climbers style and making a fancy ass swordplay duo then using another spot on a mage (Tharja pls) or Anna.
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n01/n64/software/nus_p_nalj/smash/flash/0717/index.html
The second paragraph, according to a shitty Google translation: "In fact initially, we had planned to change to the hero of MOTHER 3, while detour for a variety of reasons, I was fit to the original sheath."
Basically, they were going to use Lucas instead, but because MOTHER 3 kept being delayed, they stuck with Ness.
If we are getting a female Fire Emblem Mage, it is much more likely to be Micaiah than Tharja.
You completely ignore the character with seemingly the best chance, Bowser Jr.
* says it in the first two lines *
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Pace looks exactly like early Brawl footage. I don't know what people are seeing here.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Much appreciated!
Razgriz-Specter
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I would bet on it being Johnny Yong Bosch
ArchangelWest
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So even though Mother 3 never came out outside of Japan, and Earthbound is slated for a big VC release, you believe that Ness (who has been in every game so far by the way) will be removed, and that this is common knowledge? No thanks. Not gonna believe that one...
I think Brawl was working on Melee's engine when we first saw it, whereas now we know that this game's engine is complete.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
By that I mean they both look way slower than Melee
Whenever I had friends over, Onett was a favourite with them. It's varied and, in Brawl anyway, small with a little hazard that isn't too obtrusive. We played that a lot!
Yea it'd be pretty awesome if there was a fully rendered Johto Route 34 or something like that.
Speaking of Route 34...
I hope we see more random easter eggs (or mistakes) like this! Always interesting to see. Was there anything like this in Brawl? These games are just so, damn, polished!
Troubled Bat
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My friend would forever use Marth only if that happened.
Save 'N Quit
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If we get anyone from a Mario spinoff, it should be Fawful
They need to remember whose Mario (and Luigi!) best villain is after Bowser.
What makes you think that?
I honestly think her time has pretty much passed
They need to remember whose Mario (and Luigi!) best villain is after Bowser.
What makes you think that?
I honestly think her time has pretty much passed
Oh, well yeah. We're probably never going to see that again.
The auto-snapping to ledges is gone (developer video and Sakurai vs dude at the E3 demo), tripping's out (Sakurai confirmation) and character movement is faster/has more aerial momentum (developer video - 3DS portion). Multi air dodges are also still in, but it remains to be seen if movement from them is like Melee (can press a direction to influence the direction the dodge proceeds in; can only be triggered in a neutral state) or Brawl (cancels all hitstun and has you float to the ground in invul frames; can be triggered anytime you're in the air). Anything else is just conjecture.
Furthermore, early Brawl footage was in no way indicative of how Brawl would turn out so same should be said of what we see here.
ArchangelWest
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Right, but those citations have nothing to do with the situation now. You can hope for such a thing if it pleases you, but it wouldn't make any sense at this point to remove an original from a series that by the time of the new release will be 15 years old, and his game being re-released abroad at around the same time... *shrug*
Fidelis Hodie
Infidelis Cras
Completely okay with all of the above. Would love to see more duo type characters.
Sir Ilpalazzo
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Ness and Marth are in different situations. Marth was always the "face" of his series. He was the first main character, then the main character of the highest-selling game (which later got an anime adaptation, although I don't think that counts for much), and then he appeared in Smash Bros. which cemented that even further. Then his games got remade and he even got referenced heavily in the plot of a Fire Emblem that was meant to be an all-out fanservice game, unlike most of the other FE protagonists.
Ness was the main character of the second game in his small series (although it was the highest-selling and the only one to receive international release anyway). Of course using him in SSB64 was as clear of a choice as using Marth in Melee was. But Mother wasn't as big of a series as Fire Emblem, so at the time Melee started development, using a different character as the face of Mother in SSB wasn't crazy. I think it's also worth mentioning that Lucas was only included in SSB because his game was the newest Mother game and probably also because he's sort of similar to Ness - he wasn't included due to fan demand or things like that, because the decision to put him in Brawl was made way before Mother 3 even came out.
Now Mother 3 has come out, and although it's gotten a ton of praise, as far as I can tell Earthbound is still a more iconic game to Japanese fans. Now that Ness really is solidified as the biggest character from the Mother games (due to his appearances in SSB and Earthbound's status as the biggest Mother game).
Ness was the main character of the second game in his small series (although it was the highest-selling and the only one to receive international release anyway). Of course using him in SSB64 was as clear of a choice as using Marth in Melee was. But Mother wasn't as big of a series as Fire Emblem, so at the time Melee started development, using a different character as the face of Mother in SSB wasn't crazy. I think it's also worth mentioning that Lucas was only included in SSB because his game was the newest Mother game and probably also because he's sort of similar to Ness - he wasn't included due to fan demand or things like that, because the decision to put him in Brawl was made way before Mother 3 even came out.
Now Mother 3 has come out, and although it's gotten a ton of praise, as far as I can tell Earthbound is still a more iconic game to Japanese fans. Now that Ness really is solidified as the biggest character from the Mother games (due to his appearances in SSB and Earthbound's status as the biggest Mother game).
I am not talking about ness being removed now, I was talking about in melee.\\
That video/GIF still haunts me to this day.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
If they had multiple air dodges and let you move in a direction with it that'd be all sorts of fucked.
IIRC air dodging didn't cancel hit stun, it's just the first thing people hammer on when they get hit so people think it's like that. Pretty sure you can do any aerial at that point in addition to the airdodge.