SCV more than TTT2? No way. Why do you say that? Doesn't it still consistently get less entrants than TTT2 across the country?
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He didn't make it to grand finals the last time CafeID came.
Those guys just got so much better, so much faster.
Ring outs aren't that big of a problem as long as you learn to position yourself well and tighten up your defense where appropriate. They're a lot harder to earn now than they were in past installments anyway.
There are lots of ways to mitigate the 50/50 guess for throw escapes, and besides, a 50/50 guess is a lot more favorable than say, the 33/33/33 guess in VF5FS, where throws are also almost twice as fast and have a smaller window for escapes.
And Natsu OP? Have you paid any attention to this game since it was patched?
Infiltration tearing people apart was entertaining to me.
More exciting than most of 2010 top 8 for sure
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
What turns me off from 3D games in general is the voluminous movelist. If Tekken went the P4A route and gave everybody a universal launcher (which it already sort of does with u+f+3 and d+f+2), mashable juggle, and maybe a low execution "signature move" that would do wonders for a lot of people.Tekken is too hard to play for it to be popular. Needs somewhat of an overhaul for it to become really popular again.
Cannot wait for the SG tournament at Evo. And I agree with the other EuroGAF member who is taking Monday off.
Stabby McSter
Member
korea to take all games this year
except marvel because no one plays marvel anymore
except marvel because no one plays marvel anymore
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Also HnK is a bad game on almost every level.
It was only good for one match and there is no point in anyone ever playing the game again.
It's exciting to watch if you want to feel smarter.
If they went by number of players SCV wouldn't have been first either. Evo logic.
There is no such thing as high level P4A.
Unless they play naoto or yosuke
Haha I laughed
Yes, he registered a few weeks back and has been training and stuff supposedly.
Melee's going to be nuts though, especially if Armada actually goes (he has to be funded, him and his younger brother Android).
Fingers crossed for an evening timeslot for Melee finals.
SousedLouse
Member
Just for that, I'm wiring ArcSys enough money to pay the licensing costs for HnK 2; they'll drop Chrono Phantasma's home port like a bad habit.
DryEyeRelief
Member
That depends on sponsors, but since there are less fighting games coming out this year, there will probably be less exhibitions.
However, look at the schedule. Every game is going to have their top 8 played on stage and on the main stream, so there will be some game switches. If you're into marvel, be glad only SFxT finals is being played on Saturday.
And realistically, you're not going to get every match on stream. With luck, there might be cpm vultures.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Yes, I'm sure they will. You do that
I would be grateful for you giving them that much money to help with their future works Except the scene in Japan.
and the UK
and Canada.
and any other international area that runs marvel tournies.
It's just not the most popular or niche in those areas, but we shouldn't just discount entire scenes just because it's not up to our standards.
MasterHoodie
Member
The shirt that I designed finally came in.
Honestly there's nothing quite like seeing your design on a shirt for the first time. It looks about a million times better than I expected it to, and i'm jsut so hype right now.
Honestly there's nothing quite like seeing your design on a shirt for the first time. It looks about a million times better than I expected it to, and i'm jsut so hype right now.
Shouta
Member
Most throws in SC don't also do the damage of a VF one either. BUUUUUURNING HAMMER.
So yeah, I don't see the big issue with them as much in SC.
"God's Beard!"
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HnK isn't a game, it's a test of courage.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";66055576]HnK isn't a game, it's a test of courage.[/QUOTE]
I rather play rise of the robots if I wanted to test my courage
I rather play rise of the robots if I wanted to test my courage
EarlyEarly
Member
Ray Ray swears a lot.
Seasoned Badger
Member
Frutsy was the only guy that came out of nowhere.
Flocker was covered in the "etc" part, he was in quite a few tournament in before EVO2013: NEC, Curly, Final Round, CEO, plus some more.
Marvel needs to go last because seeing if ChrisG gets dethroned is going to be very very very hype for everyone but me.
SousedLouse
Member
I just realized this. For the first time in a few years, we're not going to have any big, fancy exhibitions on stream (unless, of course, some dev sideswipes the event with a surprise sneak peak or something).
Yes, I'm sure they will. You do that
Well, if you're going to spoil my fun by calling my bluff, then fine. I'll just put the money back into the "Neo Geo Battle Coliseum 2" fund jar - all $5.87 of it.
"God's Beard!"
Member
Nothing manly about that game.
Osu 16 Bit
Member
Was hoping MK would start on Friday and have top 16 or top 8 on Saturday or at least not begin at 8 AM but whatever. I'm just grateful for it being an EVO game.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Hey you are already 4 dollars over the HnK license rights so you might be able to afford it.
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";66056831]Nothing manly about that game.[/QUOTE]
Nothing is more manly than being able to withstand a shitty game and not go insane.
I also think SC5 may have gotten more than Tekken. At majors, Tekken has been getting comparable entrants to KOF (and sometimes more), but at Evo KOF seems to have a lot more than Tekken, I think a lot of people entered KOF just because last years top 8 was so hype. SC5 was also pretty hype and the community hasn't had anything big in a while so I think they would have came out to support.
Killer Instinct. Boom.
I wouldn't be surprised if Filthy Cup ended up having more Tekken entrants than Evo.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Filthy Cup sounds like one of the in game tournaments in Monster Rancher
Well now you have changed your argument to "but that guy came to numerous other majors before EVO" which can be applied to the players in the AE top 8 players. Infiltration and Daigo do in fact come to US majors as well and they don't "come out of nowhere". Its in fact very rare for someone to come out of nowhere to make top 8.
Also you WANT Marvel to be the last game? Well that's a first. Even Marvel minions would prefer it earlier.
There will be a "big" exhibition for Killer Instinct. SSFIV AE version 2013 will be showcased. Skullgirls top 4 or 8 will be showcased on the primary stream. Also there is rumor of a 5th DLC character being showcased for Injustice.
Just saw the Evo schedule. Here are my thoughts:
1) I'm kind of surprised that Tekken barely outdrew MK if what Mr Wizard tweeted is true (and it probably is). I thought MK would have been convincingly in last. However, there may be reasons that MK almost caught Tekken. For one, MK was pretty damn close in numbers to Tekken and Persona at UFGT. For two, with Injustice now added, a bunch of NRS-game players may have signed up late and entered both. For three, I would bet the Tekken community would not be too thrilled with having to play 2 out of 3 instead of 3 out of 5, and might opt out just based on that (or because their jobs don't let them have Friday off, obviously).
2) Based on the Friday schedule though, it looks like there's a large gap in the number of allotted stations for Tekken and MK. That Tekken can complete all their preliminary pools in just 4 hours while MK needs 8. I'm guessing Evo was expecting a much larger turnout for Tekken given the number of setups they likely obtained for it. I bet the fact Tekken wasn't drawing as well as they thought was played a big part in the decision to add Injustice as a 9th game. (And the money too, obviously.)
3) I disagree that MK's finals slot is superior to Tekken's finals slot. While the Tekken Top 8 may be the earliest, the only thing it would be competing against for stream time is Street Figther IV pools. Meanwhile, MK9 has their Top 8 at the same time as Street Fighter quarterfinals and semifinals. Which are you going to be watching? I thought so. Heck, I wouldn't even be surprised if the Top 8s for Tekken and Persona were put on the main stage, with SF4 temporarily relocated to the side stage while preliminary pools play out. I doubt MK9 will be on the main stage at all if SF4 quarterfinals are going on. So I don't think that WB's moneyhats, as you put it, bought MK9 the best Friday slot, as I think they have the worst one. (Also, there is no such thing as a best Friday slot.)
(Last thing on MK, it's not slow anymore. It goes pretty quick now. About as fast as Marvel 3/5, I think. Maybe even faster given all that Marvel "thinking time" that goes on between games.)
4) I doubt SC5 would've outdrawn any of these 9 games if it was included, especially given the (relatively) small amount Tekken pulled in. I know not all 3D games have the same community and Tekken and Soul Calibur are pretty distinct, but one game is less than a year old and the other is nearly two years old. Just how it is these days for non-Capcom games. It might've drawn better than MK had Injustice not been added, but who knows now.
5) Good to see KoF rewarded for having the most hype Top 8 last year with another Sunday timeslot. I think they might have more entrants than Persona too. (And that's without the free t-shirt.) We'll see if they're stuck with the early Sunday slot, though. It's either them or Smash.
6) Remember that there were 6 finals on Sunday last year. They learned their lesson not to do that again.
7) I don't know if the two days allotted for Melee is because of fewer setups (likely) or because they're expecting a bunch of Jigglypuff mirrors.
8) I'll be there running brackets for Persona and Street Fighter on Friday and Marvel on Saturday. Feel free to say hi if you see me.
1) I'm kind of surprised that Tekken barely outdrew MK if what Mr Wizard tweeted is true (and it probably is). I thought MK would have been convincingly in last. However, there may be reasons that MK almost caught Tekken. For one, MK was pretty damn close in numbers to Tekken and Persona at UFGT. For two, with Injustice now added, a bunch of NRS-game players may have signed up late and entered both. For three, I would bet the Tekken community would not be too thrilled with having to play 2 out of 3 instead of 3 out of 5, and might opt out just based on that (or because their jobs don't let them have Friday off, obviously).
2) Based on the Friday schedule though, it looks like there's a large gap in the number of allotted stations for Tekken and MK. That Tekken can complete all their preliminary pools in just 4 hours while MK needs 8. I'm guessing Evo was expecting a much larger turnout for Tekken given the number of setups they likely obtained for it. I bet the fact Tekken wasn't drawing as well as they thought was played a big part in the decision to add Injustice as a 9th game. (And the money too, obviously.)
3) I disagree that MK's finals slot is superior to Tekken's finals slot. While the Tekken Top 8 may be the earliest, the only thing it would be competing against for stream time is Street Figther IV pools. Meanwhile, MK9 has their Top 8 at the same time as Street Fighter quarterfinals and semifinals. Which are you going to be watching? I thought so. Heck, I wouldn't even be surprised if the Top 8s for Tekken and Persona were put on the main stage, with SF4 temporarily relocated to the side stage while preliminary pools play out. I doubt MK9 will be on the main stage at all if SF4 quarterfinals are going on. So I don't think that WB's moneyhats, as you put it, bought MK9 the best Friday slot, as I think they have the worst one. (Also, there is no such thing as a best Friday slot.)
(Last thing on MK, it's not slow anymore. It goes pretty quick now. About as fast as Marvel 3/5, I think. Maybe even faster given all that Marvel "thinking time" that goes on between games.)
4) I doubt SC5 would've outdrawn any of these 9 games if it was included, especially given the (relatively) small amount Tekken pulled in. I know not all 3D games have the same community and Tekken and Soul Calibur are pretty distinct, but one game is less than a year old and the other is nearly two years old. Just how it is these days for non-Capcom games. It might've drawn better than MK had Injustice not been added, but who knows now.
5) Good to see KoF rewarded for having the most hype Top 8 last year with another Sunday timeslot. I think they might have more entrants than Persona too. (And that's without the free t-shirt.) We'll see if they're stuck with the early Sunday slot, though. It's either them or Smash.
6) Remember that there were 6 finals on Sunday last year. They learned their lesson not to do that again.
7) I don't know if the two days allotted for Melee is because of fewer setups (likely) or because they're expecting a bunch of Jigglypuff mirrors.
8) I'll be there running brackets for Persona and Street Fighter on Friday and Marvel on Saturday. Feel free to say hi if you see me.
Good to hear that Ken is training and all. Hope he does well at Evo.
And yeah, it'll be cool if Smash gets an afternoon/evening slot. Street Fighter IV AE will probably get the last time slot, which is fine with me.
SCV was at MK level at least pre-Evo, lost some steam when it lost Evo status. Namco was more interested in TTT2 because it was newer. TTT2 just didn't appeal to the newer crowd at all. Not saying SC5 necessarily did, but I think it did more. Also, Injustice hurt MK by being the successor game.
I really think Namco put emphasis on the wrong game from a business perspective. (Not saying SC5 is a better game than TTT2, I think TTT2 is better even if I like SC5 a bit more, but I think SC5 would have drawn better than MK at least)
SousedLouse
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Killer Instinct at EVO, with AE 2013 and (maybe) another DLC character for Injustice? Cool, never mind what I said then.
Seasoned Badger
Member
You might have missed a few post where I stated my position on AE and why I want Marvel to be last. So I concede, you win.
Parallax Scroll
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Kaneblueriver is at San Diego Saltmines. They're not streaming yet but it'll probably be on here: http://www.twitch.tv/sandiegofgc
The problem with Marvel being last is that if someone who sucks against ChrisG gets to GF, the hype will just drain. I guess the same could be said for Infiltration and AE, perhaps, but I think there are better odds of AE being more hype. So, put Marvel first and if it ends up being chris jitters, then oh well, at least we still got AE to look forward to. If it's good, then fuck yes, AND we still got AE to look forward to! if ya catch my drift
Marvel's also gotten actively worse to watch in the past year.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
I can say the same for MvC2 as time went on, the main reason why the Clockwork vs neo thing was so hot was because of Clockworks strider doom being a special team and he being the specialist.
I can agree on that, but I don't think it's much worse. The ChrisG finals, even though I respect the play a lot, can get boring. but everything leading up to them is usually good, if not great.
Last year had more blow ups though. Kusoru, the spider-man player at UFGT8, Frutsy, etc. It's gotten a lot more consistent and could really use some disruption. If it stays how it is, I'm not sure what next year's evo will look like...I would still be interested because I will probably never get sick of playing it, but I can understand if lots of people fall off of it.
It's a community run tourney on premise but will get main stream time for Top 8
==== Schedule ====
* This schedule is subject to change
Friday, July 12th
- On-site registration begins when doors open and closes at 2:00pm
- Tournament begins promptly at 3:00pm
- The tournament will continue until 32 players remain.
Saturday, July 13th
- Tournament resumes at 1:00pm
- Tournament will continue until 8 players remain
- Top 8 schedule TBD
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For people that care, the number of confirmed entrants for SG is 126 with another ~10 still not paid.
Well this year we had the rise of Apologyman and Zero/Strider winning their first REAL majors. And of course the rise of KaneBlueRiver as one of the best players out there. It was a year dominated by ChrisG but there were a lot of great play in top 8s leading up to the GFs.
Oh and Senor Ass Taxi... lol
Oh and Senor Ass Taxi... lol
KBR vs. Fooblat is pretty historic too. hmmm, it's a tougher call than I thought.
And as much as ChrisG is a hype syphon, any time someone gives him a run for his money it's automatically omega hype.
Parallax Scroll
Banned
Secret evo tech will save the day