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George Zimmerman (killer of unarmed Florida teen Trayvon Martin) found not guilty
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Mammoth Jones
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Her honor aint playing: "Take a seat"...
Devolution
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How was that explanation biased? Have you even read up on the case?
Why would she say that? Seriously... Thats so ratchet...
I just tuned in. No, something way more is going on than just being too soft spoken. A lisp, something, I'm not sure exactly.
Gordon Shumway
Banned
It shall be unbearable..
Dude Abides
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Why isn't the defense objecting to all of these statements from Martin as hearsay?
Edit: spontaneous statement exception under FL law.
Edit: spontaneous statement exception under FL law.
BronsonLee
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Direct quote, maybe?
I like that were trying to argue how close Zimmerman was now, too... Wat
Devolution
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So biased...
Mammoth Jones
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Shit, she just being honest. All we need is the truth.
KibblesBits
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She has got to be getting frustrated.
Dude Abides
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Killing is not a synonym for murder. Not sure if you know how it works here.
You have a piss-poor grasp of the English language. End of story.
Brawndo Addict
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I know they mentioned she grew up with a Haitian family, but did they also state she was a first or second generation immigrant? Its so tough to do something like this if you don't have the same proficiency with English that the rest of us take for granted. Too often people interpret difficulties in communicating as a slight against their intelligence or credibility. Testifying is an incredibly high stress and difficult experience already.
"justifiable homicide" is a killing not deemed illegal, and is thus not "murder".
And homicide means "the killing of another human", not " the murder of another human".
There's a difference.
Her accent kinda sounds like an NO accent.
BronsonLee
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Oh shit it's Aveline, GEORGE, BAIL OUT
Have you?
Surrrre. If I say "so and so is a killer" I'm sure your first thought of them is as an upstanding citizen that must have killed as last resort in an act of self defense.
Well it sort of makes sense if her family's from haiti. Even if they've never been to NO, the "NO accent" undoubtedly has haitian/french traits.
Devolution
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Yes. I'm not calling out "bias" for stating a fucking fact.
Dude Abides
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Zimmerman killing as a last resort in an act of self-defense has not been established. Do you even understand what's going on here? Are you Robert Zimmerman?
So you know Zimmerman states that he stopped following him and was jumped while walking back to his car?
If someone misinterprets the thread title and doesn't know the difference between killing and murder, that's their own problem, not a problem with the thread title. It's very straightforward, no spin or anything. And no, saying "killer" isn't spin. This is a case centered upon a killing, of course the thread title is going to say it. It's an apt description.
BronsonLee
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EXACTLY, NOR IS IT ESTABLISHED THAT HE MURDERED MARTIN.
So why are completely ignoring my point and acting like the label "killer" doesn't bode well for someone's character?
Guys guys, "serial-killer" isn't synonymous with "murderer".
Foxy Fox 39
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can someone give a summary of her statements?
Dude Abides
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Because, unlike you, I understand that killer and murderer are not synonyms, particularly when you're discussing a trial. Why this is so difficult for you to grasp eludes me.
mightynine
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Oh, that's been proven outside of Zimmerman saying that?
Devolution
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What is he then a wizard? How did Trayvon end up dead? Oh right he was killed. Hurp.
vas_a_morir
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I see your point, but just let it go. It's derailing this thread, and it makes every single person who disagrees with you want to reply, and then you reply to each of them. Then, everyone who disagrees with each reply you make then replies to those... it's like exponentially derailing the thread.
Everyone's points are noted. Now let's move on. Guys, stop replying to him. Dude, stop replying to them.
BronsonLee
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Hey guys did you know that Rellik is Killer backwards?!
Also, Killer - someone that kills someone else
Also, Killer - someone that kills someone else
No one is arguing that the definition of "killer" is a person that has killed another person.
faceless007
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If I got it right, she described being on the phone with Martin, who said someone ("creepy ass cracker") was following him, she told him to run, he said he was almost home, then he said someone was behind him, she heard someone breathing heavily say "What are you doing here?", then a bump and the sounds of wet grass, then someone shouting "Get off me!" She said the person yelling that was Trayvon. The phone disconnected, she tried to call back but no answer.
Cross about to start.
Gordon Shumway
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Agreed.
Yeah. I was just thinking that. She makes it through and Zimmerman's fucked assuming the medical examiner comes through also.
dude, you're way too emotional invested in this.
And no, serial killer isnt synonymous with murderer, its a completely different connotation.
And yes he is a killer, that doesnt mean he is guilty though.
Spring-Loaded
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You are arguing the thread title is biased though. It isn't. That's where these last few pages started from.
vas_a_morir
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Media is going to go nuts on the creepy-ass c***** comment. I got banned on GAF for calling white people c*****s once, so I'm playing it safe. lol
EDIT: No wait, I said 'h*****' lol!
EDIT: No wait, I said 'h*****' lol!
Me too, you know they'll twist her words and look to exploit any differences to make her look bad.
soundscream
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Yep,the defense has to discredit her because if they dont it blows a hole in the defense theory that Trayvon jumped Zimmerman on the way back to his car.
TunaMarshmallow
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According to her:
Martin said that a "creepy as cracker" was looking at him and watching him. She joked with Martin that perhaps the watcher was a "rapist". Martin told her not to joke around like that. Martin said that he wanted to "lose" the guy, and so he started walking away. He said that the "nigga" then began following him. She told Martin to run, but Martin said that he didn't need to run, because he could just walk quickly back to the place he was staying. After some period of time, Martin told her that he was alone and that he was just about back at the place he was staying. Then, suddenly, Martin said "oh shit" and reported that the guy (the watcher) was right behind him (Martin). She then heard an out-of-breath voice (not Martin's) say something along the lines of "What are you doing around here?" She called out to Martin with things like "What's going on? What's happening?" but Martin did not respond. Then she heard a bump noise on the headset. She heard rustling and what sounded to her like grass up against the speaker. She heard Martin say "Get off", and then the phone disconnected. She tried to call back, but Martin didn't answer.
I've left out some tiny details, but that's the barebones version. Excuse my language.
"I can't hear you, I moved to the back of the room, can you speak up"
"sorry, still can't hear you"
"what was that last word"
"Let me move closer"
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