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Index (Atlus) entering into a restructuring bankruptcy; looking to transfer/sell

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Aquamarine said:
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頑張れクマ！
You can do it, [Atlus]! ~kuma

ソニーで買ってください！！
Please buy them, Sony!!

きっとうまくいけるクマ！
Surely it can go well! ~kuma
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It makes me happy that Yoshida knows about Persona.
 
ok ok ok. I'm calmer now, so here's a more realistic scenario


Let Atlus go bankrupt and disappear,

Take all key members from the SMT / Persona teams and get them into SCEJ.

See? Reasonable. : _ )
 
NeonZ said:
Some information about the Fire Emblem crossover, which makes me think that Nintendo could show some interest in acquiring Atlus:



Basically, it sounds like Nintendo were initially just after a development team for a modern Fire Emblem game, and it was Atlus that suggested making it a crossover. If Nintendo are after more development resources, it is possible they might attempt to solidify their relationship under a situation like this.

Although, really, is there no group related to Index that could acquire its assets without basically changing anything and allowing Atlus to continue operating without changes? That would be the best case scenario here, I guess.
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For someone that has just completed FE Awakening and is now binge-playing FE games, I gotta say: that sounds fantastic.

Real World Fire Emblem, as a separate series mixed with Megaten worlds...what's not to like?

I really hope it will actually get made
 
This is not the news I wanted to wake up to. Hopefully a single buyer keeps all the franchises together. Especially the SMT stuff.
 
Verendus said:
Well, this isn't surprising. Someone at SCE made a call to show support to one of their teams. It's a shame this is happening now; probably the most inopportune time. Discussions were being had about what may be happening to Atlus since the initial news. We'll see what comes of it.
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Hmmm, hope its good and we find about it soon. I wouldn't mind SCE buying them but I can see why some may.
 
Mr-Joker said:
Man I really need to get round to watching Dragon Ball Z.



To be honest I think that Nintendo is the best bet to buy Atlus since they have more money and having the Persona and Shin Megami Tensei IP wouldn't hurt them, hell it might help sell the Wii U. Though if Sony was smart they would buy it and make it a Vita exclusive IP only.
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Why Vita exclusive only? That is still a big gamble. Why not throw it on PS3, PS4 and the Vita? Even if it is a downloadable only title on all fo the platforms. A next generation version of SMT could really turn some heads.
 
Terrible news, but if they get bought out I hope it's a third party publisher so they can keep doing multiplatform titles.

But if it's Sony or Nintendo, I'd rather they just negotiate a 3-5 game exclusivity deal to keep them afloat if it's possible. Honestly though, I just want more atlus games on the vita. I need more P4G & Dragon's Crown goodness.
 
NeonZ said:
Basically, it sounds like Nintendo were initially just after a development team for a modern Fire Emblem game, and it was Atlus that suggested making it a crossover. If Nintendo are after more development resources, it is possible they might attempt to solidify their relationship under a situation like this.
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If that's the case it sounds like Nintendo has no inherent interest in the SMT franchise, though. Buying Atlus only for the resources would be absolutely terrible.

NeonZ said:
Although, really, is there no group related to Index that could acquire its assets without basically changing anything and allowing Atlus to continue operating without changes? That would be the best case scenario here, I guess.
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I'm not sure why everyone is assuming that a video game company will pick up Atlus. It's definitely a possibility that Index searches for an investor that keeps the video game business running as is. After all, "Atlus" is a healthy and profitable business from all that we know.
 
*wakes up, opens GAF, reads top thread title*
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What the hell, my world is spinning, someone do something, Atlus must be saved!
 
Wow. This is really sad. I haven't cared too much for their most recent offerings but I always hoped Atlus would get back to it's PS2 glory one day...
 
Caelestis said:
Toriyama and Persona in one sentence... That's just wrong, haha.
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Wrong is putting it lightly. I don't think I could think of a worse outcome. Maybe Microsoft buying them out, because then the Xbox One would have a game I want and I'd have to spend more money.

But neither of those are likely to happen, so let's not be silly. :3
 
Just as I start to get interested in Atlus games, the company dies. For a fan of Japanese games, like me, it is very bad news.

And seeing as we are supporting companies to take them over, I think Nintendo has the best bet. The SMT x FE crossover shows Atlus and Nintendo are as close as companies can be.
 
The way the 3DS is going right now I kinda want Atlus to become part of Nintendo. Give them the Monolith Soft treatment and boom, 3DS continues to become a JRPG powerhouse. Or it would give Ninty an extra weapon for panic-mode Wii U.

I don't know if GAF would recover though.
 
I woke up, logged onto GAF and this was the first thing I saw... yep, it's gonna be a shit day. I hope Atlus can be saved.
 
Oh to be honest for me. I wouldn't mind either Sony or Nintendo buying them. I'm just a bit worried about the SMTxFire Emblem game they had going. We never saw any footage of that did we?

But in my dream world I'd love for Persona and SMT to be on PC Steam.
 
M_Night said:
Come on Sony!

And no to Nintendo. Region lock = fuck off
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Nintendo are fucking outta their minds, when MS don't even region lock their consoles but Nintendo does.

Where have you been lol, he's been praising about it for some time now, even said Persona 4 was one of his favourite game of all time and he loves Chie XD
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Holy shit and he likes Chie. This is amazing news.
 
M_Night said:
Come on Sony!

And no to Nintendo. Region lock = fuck off
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Lately Nintendo has been releasing their games worldwide close together. If Atlus was picked up by Nintendo you might see more of their games in Europe/Australia.

I'm fine with Nintendo buying Atlus if they can keep making their games. SMT4 will be my first smt game ever hope its good.

More Trauma Center games.please!!!
 
Man, I just hope that if one of the big three grabs them up it's Nintendo. It would be downright criminal to bring their awesome 3DS streak to an early close.
...I just don't want poor Etrian Odyssey to die. :(
 
Rhazer Fusion said:
Why Vita exclusive only? That is still a big gamble. Why not throw it on PS3, PS4 and the Vita? Even if it is a downloadable only title on all fo the platforms. A next generation version of SMT could really turn some heads.
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Make the true numbered sequel ps4 and then experimental spin offs on the handheld.
 
M_Night said:
Come on Sony!

And no to Nintendo. Region lock = fuck off
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Kind of the way I'm leaning to. As a paranoid European, Nintendo makes me hesitant. To have the games exist localized in english, but still not get to play them?
they have been better at bringing stuff over recently, but still...
 
- Capcom: outsource Persona to Ninja Theory so it will become huge in the West.

- Square Enix: Persona is now smartphone only.

- Konami: Atlus is shut down within 1 year because they couldn't help making Metal Gear and Winning Eleven.

- Nintendo: would never buy Atlus because they're above it.

- Sony Japan: would love to buy Atlus and probably keep them as is, but will only realize Atlus was up for sale 2 years later.

- Koei Tecmo: Persona Musou.

- Level 5: Persona 5; 6 months later, Persona 5 Boost; 6 months later, Persona 6 Love / Hate; 6 months later, Persona 6 Live; 6 months later Persona 7...


I think the only reasonable candidate is Bandai Namco? (Unless GREE wants to have a taste of what it is to be in a dying business field.)
 
Twilightzoney said:
Oh to be honest for me. I wouldn't mind either Sony or Nintendo buying them. I'm just a bit worried about the SMTxFire Emblem game they had going. We never saw any footage of that did we?

But in my dream world I'd love for Persona and SMT to be on PC Steam.
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If that did go south couldnt Sony commission (if they bought Atlus) Persona X Disgaea? (obviously with NIS support)
 
Well this was some lousy news to start out my day, but I figured that something like this would happen after the news of the accounting shenanigans that Index was trying to pull. Too bad Atlus was bought by such a shit company, I hope they will survive this.
 
Cody_D165 said:
The way the 3DS is going right now I kinda want Atlus to become part of Nintendo. Give them the Monolith Soft treatment and boom, 3DS continues to become a JRPG powerhouse. Or it would give Ninty an extra weapon for panic-mode Wii U.

I don't know if GAF would recover though.
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The meltdowns, it would be glorious.
Twilightzoney said:
Oh to be honest for me. I wouldn't mind either Sony or Nintendo buying them. I'm just a bit worried about the SMTxFire Emblem game they had going. We never saw any footage of that did we?

But in my dream world I'd love for Persona and SMT to be on PC Steam.
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It said "development in progress" so I'm guessing not much work has been done yet.
 
If that's the case it sounds like Nintendo has no inherent interest in the SMT franchise, though. Buying Atlus only for the resources would be absolutely terrible.
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If they had no interest in the franchise, they wouldn't have turned it into a crossover though. They've also highlighted SMT IV quite a bit in various Nintendo Directs.

On the other hand, like I said in a later addition to that post, I guess the overall "Index" group and all of its problems could be an obstacle.
 
I think people should also keep in mind that other game publishers might not be the only interested parties who might want to take over Index as a business. After all, Index is a publisher themselves.
 
i almost want nintendo to buy them,so that i don't have to buy a wii u only for bayo 2..but the fact that they are region locked really is a problem with atlus products
 
So since we're on 20 pages of Nintendo vs Sony and speculation of who and whose mothers would ruin Persona forever...

Is there any merit to these "so-and-so should buy Atlus" talks? Index/Atlus isn't like THQ, all able to sell off developers to cover their debts. Index didn't just buy Atlus, they merged with it; all of Index's debt belongs to Atlus, so if Nintendo/Sony/your mom buys Atlus, they have to do so by paying down all of Index's debts. They'd be stupid to do so, really.

If anyone (Nintendo, Sony, your mom) were to "buy Atlus," they'd likely just be buying parts of Atlus-- an IP here, some office chairs there, some art assets over there. But there's no reason to do that, either. The IPs, on their own, aren't worth the price-- the "Persona" name doesn't sell systems (or even raise eyebrows outside of GAF)-- and Atlus assets aren't exactly, well, groundbreaking. The real value of Atlus games is from the talent behind them, and it would be a lot cheaper just to hire the staff after Atlus goes down with the Index ship. Sony could hire the Persona team to make Bearsona, all without having to "buy Atlus." Nintendo could get "Shin Mario Tensei" and so what if it replaces Jack Frost with Yoshi, it would still be a great game and nobody has to "buy Atlus" to make it.

From the OP, it seems like the creditors know that the non-Atlus parts of Index are worthless, and that they want to restructure Index to basically be just all Atlus, and for Atlus to continue business as usual. For this to happen, they need someone to invest and keep Atlus from having to fire all their staff and sell all their chairs. They're not looking for a buyer, they're looking for an investor.

At least, that's my take on it.
 
duckroll said:
I think people should also keep in mind that other game publishers might not be the only interested parties who might want to take over Index as a business. After all, Index is a publisher themselves.
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That would be nice if they can find an interested party. Maybe that way their consumer game division can stay the same since it was profitable.
 
2+2=5 said:
Are you kidding me? Have you played bayonetta?
Her extreme sexuality was ironic and a joke to all the sexualized character in video games, cutting that would be a damage for girls, not me that i want it.
Bayonetta without extreme sexual attitude would make her a simply a stylish fighter, a female dante more or less, bayonetta is more than that.
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duckroll said:
I think people should also keep in mind that other game publishers might not be the only interested parties who might want to take over Index as a business. After all, Index is a publisher themselves.
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Why would anyone want Index as a whole?
 
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