Joel Was Right
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Can someone describe what is happening
George Zimmerman (killer of unarmed Florida teen Trayvon Martin) found not guilty
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Higgins113
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not even west can keep up with her bullshit
The young woman is being asked the same questions over and over. She did not seem like she wanted to be there in the first place. She is getting frustrated. The defense is getting more aggressive.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Yeah, she isn't going to last on the stand much longer. She was getting mad yesterday. Today she is one aggressive comment or question from snapping. Her voice keeps raising and raising. "YES SIR!"
I don't think it does them any favors though. She looks embarrassed and he seems like a jerk.
polyh3dron
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Like "Why are you following me for".
dream
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Oh, it's a total dick move. Especially when he slows down the delivery to emphasize her shitty grammar. But I think it's an interesting rhetorical technique that, along with her demeanor on the stand, depicts her as being dumb and unreliable.
edit: I also think it's brilliant how he has her read because it makes it seem like she's illiterate.
empty vessel
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Please stay out of my neighborhood. If I had kids, you'd be a threat to them.
polyh3dron
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CHECK THE TRANSCRIPT, SIR
Well, if they try to translate it into something legible, then they might get the context/meaning behind it wrong.
Until she has to say the same thing to the witness.
Well she can't expect the witness to know court procedure.
If you think this is a shitty attitude you should have seen the Jodi Arius trial. She was just absolutely insane.
Why though? I think if she all of a sudden starts acting very courteous she'll come off as phony.
I didn't even consider that. Good point.
I feel pretty bad for the girl. She doesn't seem like she's all that awesome of a person, but she's being raked across the coals by the internet. I don't think being questioned for hours on end while having your every... idiosyncrasy used against you is an easy thing.
When I think about her two lies (about her age, and about why she skipped the wake - only one of which was under oath if I remember correctly) it just kind of adds into this image of someone who is not ready, wanting or able to be on the stand. And as much as it might be relevant (I don't know if it is, but it doesn't feel like it is to me) using those two lies for character assassination, along with her dumb-teen tweets, feels wrong to me.
When I think about her two lies (about her age, and about why she skipped the wake - only one of which was under oath if I remember correctly) it just kind of adds into this image of someone who is not ready, wanting or able to be on the stand. And as much as it might be relevant (I don't know if it is, but it doesn't feel like it is to me) using those two lies for character assassination, along with her dumb-teen tweets, feels wrong to me.
RawkHawk2010
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Seconded.
Particle Physicist
between a quark and a baryon
.meh
Because it IS wrong. It has nothing to do with the relevant details of the case. The point is to attack her character, and, by association, Trayvon's by basically mocking her intelligence and taking advantage of a cultural gap.
Joel Was Right
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Was she able to read it?
It's a deposition, it's already there as evidence. Right?
Wanda/Wander
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This is a pretty fucked up tatic by the defense.
No it was not. The defense is trying to get it entered in now as evidence.
So following someone represents a threat to you? Seeing where a suspicious person goes is dangerous?
If this happened to your family and you knew the outcome could have been different because a person followed suspicious people, you would be fine?
I agree. He wants the jury to make up their own mind about what she said. It was mumbled and unclear. He asked her what she said and she told him. End of story.
Vigilantism is dangerous, following around people you suspect is absolutely unnecessary - call the cops and they'll be there in two minutes.
Killing_Joke
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Defense trying to use her broken english as a weapon. I think it backfired. If only she was a little more fucking smarter, her testimony could have wrapped this whole thing up. Clearly one of them is lying and i doubt it's her.
faceless007
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With a loaded gun? Absofuckinglutely.
RawkHawk2010
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Yah. That's what I heard too.
I wonder if they would be using this same tactic if there were different people in the Jury. *hmm*
This. As cynical as it may sound, people need to stay the fuck out of other peoples business. Especially when there's a higher authority in place to handle certain things such as "suspicious" beings. It's sad bad shit happens and that there's fucked up people in the world, but that doesn't mean you should put yourself in a position to potentially cause harm to yourself or another party. Being the hero isn't guaranteed.
empty vessel
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Yes, and obviously so.
Let's put it this way: I wouldn't blame you for not preventing it. And I'd prefer you not try, lest you wind up stupidly killing an innocent person.
You aren't a hero. Nobody needs you to be a hero. Innocent people die when stupid people play hero.
In case it's not perfectly clear, I am absolutely opposed to vigilantes.
CrimsonCommie
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This trial, and especially the discussions, are becoming fucking disgusting. I can't believe how ignorant and sheltered some people are.
Is it really that hard for you to imagine what it would be like to be followed by a hostile stranger at night for no good reason?
Joel Was Right
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Did I hear humming
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