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I wouldn't mind seeing Fchamp win if Chris G gets eliminated before Grand Finals. >.>

And lol @ Yipes. Gonna have to agree with Dahbomb.
 
Marvel top 8 predictions (not in order):

Chris G
F Champ
RayRay
Moons
JWong
<international barely known>
<american known player>
<mediocre player>
 
Rooting for Rayray or Moons. Wish Kyohei still played, but it's ok.

I haven't been really keeping up with the FGC lately, any Japanese coming to Evo for Marvel? Will they be stopping by the FGTV house again? Rayray and Moons are going after CEO, correct?
 
Take away <american revelation> and put <american known player>, like Yipes, PrRog, Marlin, or someone else (Infrit fits the "mediocre" spot, not "known player")
 
Yipes has a huge chance of being randomed out by matchups he just isn't prepared for. I don't see him in Top 8. Top 16 max. I don't think he hates the game as much as people say, he hates the game as much as everyone else does that still plays it religiously. And he just hasn't been doing much because obviously his wedding is coming up and now he's set (at least temporarily) because of the VxG thing.

I couldn't predict EVO 2011 or EVO 2012 and there's no way I'll be able to pick EVO 2013 Top 8. There are always wildcards. All I can say is Chris G, Justin Wong and FChamp will be there. Flocker maybe too, but he has a greater chance of being randomed out than those three.

[QUOTE="God's Beard!";66728371]Guaranteed. No Chris G in grand finals.[/QUOTE]
do you remember the last time this happened
 
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";66728371]Guaranteed. No Chris G in grand finals.[/QUOTE]

You do this to yourself, you know. Your foolish dedication to regions is going to break your heart again and again and again.
 
Smedwicks said:
Flocker has Zero, shouldn't he be the one randoming people out?

You know, throwing coins and what not?
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Yeah probably, but I just don't have confidence that he has enough practice vs. a lot of the heavy hitters, despite having tons of matchup experience. Randomed out isn't the perfect word.

A Pretty Panda said:
I got bored made a thread

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=606166
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Added to OP.

Dahbomb said:
I can see PRRog, Justin Wong, FChamp, ChrisG and Flocker in top 8. Everyone else is a wild card.
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PR Rog is one of the biggest wild cards of all. I mean, he's good and definitely Top 8 material, but he's the type to get overzealous and I definitely think some patient players could fuck him over, or characters he doesn't have experience against.

I'd never bet on PR Rog.
 
Has anyone seen the below? It's a video talking about general e-sports (including fighting games) and how they may be able to increase their exposure by more closely emulating what regular sports do. It may not be dropping revelations but I liked the video and agreed with a lot of what was said. The Idea Channel has great videos in general related to other subjects too so check those out as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWjTnukgSu8&feature=youtu.be
 
GenkiPatton said:
they're confident that their improved engine will be better than GGPO.
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Pretty sure that's physically impossible. At the very least, every attempt thus far to mimic GGPO has failed spectacularly.

I wish the team the best of luck. But, it would be cheaper, easier, and more effective to just send a check to Tony Cannon. He's already done the work for you.
 
Crocodile said:
Has anyone seen the below? It's a video talking about general e-sports (including fighting games) and how they may be able to increase their exposure by more closely emulating what regular sports do. It may not be dropping revelations but I liked the video and agreed with a lot of what was said. The Idea Channel has great videos in general related to other subjects too so check those out as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWjTnukgSu8&feature=youtu.be
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A lot of really great points in this video about stats, storytelling and telling people who to root for. I think this would be a good video for people building the infrastructure in the scene to check out, primarily TOs and streamers.
 
enzo_gt said:
A lot of really great points in this video about stats, storytelling and telling people who to root for. I think this would be a good video for people building the infrastructure in the scene to check out, primarily TOs and streamers.
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No. Drama bad. What happened to just playing the games? Huh huh huh

FREE AGENTS RUINING THE GAME

I only watch college street fighter, why would I want to watch a bunch of millionaires playing fighting games against each other
 
@SuperDojo: #FGC news : If you ARE NOT liked by your opponent then you are doing something right. Giving your competition motivation is important imo.
Why would you want to give your opponent motivation to beat you, especially in a tournament? You wouldn't.

I think I've stumbled into why Mike Ross wins so much.
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Crocodile said:
Has anyone seen the below? It's a video talking about general e-sports (including fighting games) and how they may be able to increase their exposure by more closely emulating what regular sports do. It may not be dropping revelations but I liked the video and agreed with a lot of what was said. The Idea Channel has great videos in general related to other subjects too so check those out as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWjTnukgSu8&feature=youtu.be
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The reason the average viewer doesn't know about all the individual players and personalities is exactly because the scenes are so small in comparison to sports. Most of the stuff that we learn about the athletes is not through watching the game, but from stories outside of the game. Most of the people in this thread, and the regulars, know all about the players, though. Because they watch regularly or seek out that information just like the sports audience. As the scene gets bigger, you will have more of those storylines come through. They're there, and most of us know them, but obviously people who don't tune in regularly won't know. We all have our dogs in the fight and the players we don't like. We know the underdogs and the favorites. We can't expect the Adam Sesslers to know. That's the same as my gf tuning into the SB and not knowing dick about either team, so she picks the best uniform to root for or the most handsome QB.

The one thing they could do, I suppose, is individual player pieces. Leading up to major sporting events like the SB or NBA finals, there's always a story or two about a player's struggle. They get beat into the ground all week leading up to the event and there's usually a piece in the pre-game. I actually wouldn't mind a pre-game show for EVO, but I know people would rather watch casuals. I only like casuals when it's a MM... so I guess not really casual. :P

Why did instant replays go away in fighting game streams, btw? They still exist in other e-sports, but they went away real fast in the FGC.
 
enzo_gt said:
A lot of really great points in this video about stats, storytelling and telling people who to root for. I think this would be a good video for people building the infrastructure in the scene to check out, primarily TOs and streamers.
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This kinda already happens. It's why people get so hyped when Infiltration loses or when Japanese players get knocked out by American players. I do agree that better visual storytelling tools would make things easier to follow for people (LevelUp tried the whole "writing on the screen" thing lol), but fighting games move fast so I'd imagine that it's kinda hard to do.

Something I've been wondering is whether the scene could do a better job splitting the game into phases and creating expectations. I don't know as much about SC2, but LoL has pretty well-defined early games, mid-games, and late games. The players on both teams have objectives and expectations (x comp is good against y in z phase of the game). Those are like small stories in themselves. I don't feel as if it's as easy or intuitive to do that in fighting games.
 
OceanBlue said:
Something I've been wondering is whether the scene could do a better job splitting the game into phases and creating expectations. I don't know as much about SC2, but LoL has pretty well-defined early games, mid-games, and late games. The players on both teams have objectives and expectations (x comp is good against y in z phase of the game). Those are like small stories in themselves. I don't feel as if it's as easy or intuitive to do that in fighting games.
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That's what meter does.

AH meter system worked well for this.
 
argh. going to miss the first day of CEO.

Sako confirmed for EVO, nice. After his Topanga showing this year, really looking forward to seeing him play.
 
Rorschach said:
The reason the average viewer doesn't know about all the individual players and personalities is exactly because the scenes are so small in comparison to sports. Most of the stuff that we learn about the athletes is not through watching the game, but from stories outside of the game. Most of the people in this thread, and the regulars, know all about the players, though. Because they watch regularly or seek out that information just like the sports audience. As the scene gets bigger, you will have more of those storylines come through. They're there, and most of us know them, but obviously people who don't tune in regularly won't know. We all have our dogs in the fight and the players we don't like. We know the underdogs and the favorites. We can't expect the Adam Sesslers to know. That's the same as my gf tuning into the SB and not knowing dick about either team, so she picks the best uniform to root for or the most handsome QB.

The one thing they could do, I suppose, is individual player pieces. Leading up to major sporting events like the SB or NBA finals, there's always a story or two about a player's struggle. They get beat into the ground all week leading up to the event and there's usually a piece in the pre-game. I actually wouldn't mind a pre-game show for EVO, but I know people would rather watch casuals. I only like casuals when it's a MM... so I guess not really casual. :P

Why did instant replays go away in fighting game streams, btw? They still exist in other e-sports, but they went away real fast in the FGC.
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Haunts tech only apparently.
 
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