I seen it earlier, and it didn't sound that great. Awesome of them to make this video and put all of that effort, but the costume designs for the girl(s?) were terrible for an obvious reason.
Super Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS: Info Collection - Dojo, Mega Man and Trailer! 2014!
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I seen it earlier, and it didn't sound that great. Awesome of them to make this video and put all of that effort, but the costume designs for the girl(s?) were terrible for an obvious reason.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I'M FINISHED!
Um exCUSE me Sakurai but CLEARLY the best choice for Smash Bros would be my fav niche character HOWEVER you are clearly INCOMPETENT and
How many big macs do you think Little Mac could eat? Does Doc just steal them all, leaving Mac with nothing but hunger and ketchup packets?
JBtheHunter
Banned
Am I missing something?
Did you mean to link to 34 seconds in instead?
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
This is a once-in-a-life chance. So Brawl is just once, but yeah it's awful joke anyway.
No, I remember someone linking to his Miiverse profile or something along those lines.
He might be referring to the "Once in a lifetime" thing?
Yes, but I was able to view his posts without having to log in. I'm not sure how I did that.
Diddy Kong
Banned
YES
There's also special "gun failed" animations for Fox and Wolf in their animation files in Brawl that they forgot to remove. Similar to Diddy's peanut pop gun full charge... It's possible that animation was going to tie into Fox having his blaster out at all times; maybe anyway. (Otherwise I guess it would have been used if you used the laser too much lol).
Obviously they scrapped the idea and went in favor of just decreasing the distance Fox's lasers traveled. (Which was a far better adjustment, though I think they made them go a little too short :x).
Anyway, I highly doubt they will change veteran move sets very much unless they were completely terrible characters (i.e Bowser). While Pikachu's Side B has seldom use for hitting, it's a good recovery option so it makes little sense to remove it in favor of some other attack. Sakurai can also easily rebrand/rename the move Volt Tackle and it would be up to date with Pikachu's current move pool in the games (not that it matters seeing as all the Pokemon in Smash have moves they can't learn in the games).
Also, the Pit render was just... the render, he didn't actually look that detailed in the reveal trailers. His in-game model never changed from the reveal and to the final release.
Looks like I missed the music bonanza by a few posts, but I would love if Pokemon Colosseum could get some love.
Miror B Theme
Cipher Admin Theme
Miror B Theme
Cipher Admin Theme
Anything can change.
I also remember a big deal being made about Fox having his blaster out at all times (video), but that ended up being changed for release.
I do hope that Pikachu gets some more facial expressions, though, and I'm confident that he will.
Oh man that video brings back memories... I hope we get memorable trailers for smash IV!
Green Mamba
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Pokemon is a strange case. In Brawl, the Pokemon spinoffs are more or less completely ignored, only the anime is used for the voices and the console titles are used for the 3D Pokeball Pokemon models. All of the music is from the mainline, and there are no trophies or stickers referencing the spinoffs; in fact, every single Pokemon sticker is actually just official Brawl artwork of the Pokemon that appear in it (completely diametrically opposed to the anything and everything of the other series).
Melee had a single trophy from Pokemon Snap, and that was about it.
The Pokemon Company must have fairly strict stipulations about the series, moreso than Nintendo has on the other series (Sakurai did state as much before). Though I'm still not sure how Jigglypuff fits into all that, because it still remaining in the roster strikes me as a Sakurai decision, so he must have some clout on what goes in when it comes to Pokemon.
That's my little tangent on the subject.
Miror B's theme should really be in smash already.
I feel like once Sakurai puts the effort into creating a character for one game, the Pokémon Company understands than fans will want to see that character back in a sequel. It was probably fairly easy to get the OK for Jigglypuff in Smash Bros. 64. If Jigglypuff had never appeared in the series but Sakurai wanted to include it in the new game, the Pokémon Company would definitely put up a fight and suggest something else.
Green Mamba
Member
I wouldn't bet on it.
That sounds like the most likely reason.
I wouldn't mind a blaster fail or cool down for falco's blaster
Hopefully fox's blaster range is extended or switched with falco's
Lol, it would probably get annoying unless the fail anim was consistent so the player could know when they would get it with Falco.
But yeah Fox's laser distance was hit way too hard... while Falco's was left untouched despite how absolutely more potent it is.
If that's Megaman clashing his flame sword with Mario's forward air, it doesn't mean much because Zero Suit Samus' whip moves could clash with anything. This is because her whip is an article (which is basically an object that is considered separate from the character model such as Ike's sword, an article can also be a projectile like Samus' Super Missiles). ZSS' Up Smash could clash with aerials as well as her Neutral Air, her Nair could also clash with grounded moves which is very unusual as aerials cannot ever clash, only trade.
So Megaman's Flame sword could very well be just an article, which wouldn't be all too surprising. Hence how this clash happened.
I wouldn't put much stock in it confirming aerials clashing/clanking until we see it happen again between something like Mario's forward air vs Bowser's forward air.
1. Not too excited about the F.L.U.D.D. Nozzle returning only because it sucks. Hopefully the properties change on it.
2. Shield dash has a shortish range.
3. There is still some floatyness, but there's less of it.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Ah, I see. It's extremely rare for me to matching up with Zero Suit Samus user, since most of my friends don't really main her.
Thank to Fenrir 7 at smashboard,
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Green Mamba
Member
My favorite part of that match was when Mario actually failed to get back to the stage.
Shows you right then and there that it isn't Brawl.
Shows you right then and there that it isn't Brawl.
Green Mamba
Member
They also made it so Mario always faces the camera like Mega Man does, goofily switching up the hands he uses for his normals. I don't like it.
They have to make it look exciting so it's likely the knock back is beefed up for the demo.
That's what I said before Brawl came out. And it was even worse than that.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Ouch, and I noticed that SSB4's speed seem to be only low percent increased comparing to Brawl, so It's not really between Melee and Brawl. It's very little faster than Brawl.
I'm sure they aren't finished updating the old characters, but maaaan will I be disappointed if FLUDD stays.
Freezie KO
Banned
FLUDD was terrible in Brawl. I think the concept is interesting though for edge guarding.
A shame one could simply air dodge through it or not be affected by it's weak push...aside from rare occasions.
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
EightBitNate
Member
I'm actually kinda interested in seeing Mario with a complete FLUDD move set. FLUDD had a lot of cool tricks that would fit in well in Smash Bros.
PorygonVandal
Member
Where's that comment from? xD
Freezie KO
Banned
Oh yeah, your momentum could carry you through the spray most of the time. It was pathetic really. Sakurai should've just given Mario one of these:
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
A lot of the 64 cast could use some buffs.
You can't tell me development was started too early to incorporate anything from Galaxy. Replace FLUDD with the Luma spun jump, or something with Star Bits, any even any dumb power-up from some New game, ANYTHING besides a water gun that requires charging to be the least bit effective and does nothing but nudge you slightly.