Super Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS: Info Collection - Dojo, Mega Man and Trailer! 2014!

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I hope turnip power is different every day
 
Mewtwo doesn't have any particular claim to fame over any other high-end legendary, such as Ho-oh, Groudon, Dialga, and so forth. He is ultimately associated with just the Generation 1 games. He might be relevant again with the new form, but we don't know anything at all about that form, or how it is used in Pokemon X/Y. As such, we can't make many assumptions.

I don't see any particular reason to list him separately from the other pokemon who have appeared in Smash Bros.

Mewtwo is still very popular and relevant, it even got a new exclusive move with the Gen V games. It's also gotten TCG tins recently and they advertise him quite a bit there compared to other legendaries (Rayquaza is with him on that part), he's had a few cameos in some of the later movies as well. (Darkrai, Destiny Deoxys)

He almost won a popularity contest a year ago on Pokemon.com, but Mew ended up being the victor.
 
I seriously hope instead of Newtwo, Sylveon gets in. If only for the hilarity.

Maybe bring the other Eeveelutions too!

Save for Flareon. Fuck Flareon.
 
Also technically Peach picks up an unnamed "vegetable" with a face :P

There are turnips in Animal Crossing. :P

The "stalk market".

It should be Villager's final smash. Declare turnip selling prices are high, causing other extra villagers to stampede to the stage.
 
Mewtwo is still very popular and relevant, it even got a new exclusive move with the Gen V games. It's also gotten TCG tins recently and they advertise him quite a bit there compared to other legendaries (Rayquaza is with him on that part), he's had a few cameos in some of the later movies as well. (Darkrai, Destiny Deoxys)

He almost won a popularity contest a year ago on Pokemon.com, but Mew ended up being the victor.

Popular yes, relevant no.

He is just as relevant as every other legendary.
In game you catch him and do nothing
In movie he either

a) messes stuff up, undoes the mess and leaves
or
b) fights another legendary and we find out the other legendary is not a bad guy, the fight stops and he leavs
Or secret answer
C) Is a tiny fairy that grants wishes or has sometype of special abilities and bonds with a child before ash teams up with it to save the world


Legendary are not that relevant in the grand scheme of Pokemon.
 
With that matter, it really says something on Mewtwo that you need to make a movie out of him to be relevant again.

I still want an Arceus Pokeball Pokemon. Tossing it an auto-KOing everyone is pretty fun.
 
I am perfectly happy with Charizard, Squirtle, and Ivysaur being part of a team under Pokemon Trainer as they are. I would be disappointed to see them split up into separate characters.

There's an easy fix for this. No auto switch upon death.

...and no stamina and type effectiveness.
 
Popular yes, relevant no.

He is just as relevant as every other legendary.
In game you catch him and do nothing
In movie he either

a) messes stuff up, undoes the mess and leaves
or
b) fights another legendary and we find out the other legendary is not a bad guy, the fight stops and he leavs
Or secret answer
C) Is a tiny fairy that grants wishes or has sometype of special abilities and bonds with a child before ash teams up with it to save the world


Legendary are not that relevant in the grand scheme of Pokemon.

He gained Psystrike while no other legendary gained a new move with Gen V. He's also getting a brand new form, despite being a Gen I Pokemon and being the star of yet another Pokemon movie. I'd say that's some what relevant.

He's also been in Smash previously, and isn't a clone.
 
Pokemon reps are easily the wildcards because the Pokemon Company has so much control over them. If they were more like another Nintendo franchise things would be very different, but as it is they represent the least Sakurai-influenced of all the represented franchises.

TPC may very well want Mewtwo in Smash 4, and if they do Mewtwo will be in Smash 4. Alternately, they may be more interested in another Pokemon (perhaps a new one for Gen V), and then that Pokemon will get in. It all comes down to what TPC wants to advertise, coupled with Sakurai possibly pushing for keeping veterans like Jigglypuff.
 
I am perfectly happy with Charizard, Squirtle, and Ivysaur being part of a team under Pokemon Trainer as they are. I would be disappointed to see them split up into separate characters.

I don't think anyone has issues with them being a team, but rather that their stamina mechanic is terrible (and the way the game shows you that it's time to switch is pretty awful since you're very rarely going to be having them sit still), having to go one by one for a switch is annoying and goes against the philosophy of a Pokemon team (where you switch freely into whatever suits the situation), and the type weaknesses made Ivysaur pretty terrible since most of the characters had fire attacks of some sort and coupled with Ivysaur's fairly poor recovery ended up being a free kill for a lot of characters.

When you consider that Zelda/Shiek and Samus/ZSS share a character slot and are basically independent entities from each other it makes the forced switching/team play even more bizarre. If they fix those issues I'd be pretty happy with Pokemon Trainer returning, if not then it'd be neat to have Charizard or Squirtle fleshed out into their own unique character.
 
I would be okay if they switched Pokemon Trainer's Pokemon to a newer generation.

Gen One gets a huge amount of representation, it's time to diversify a little.

Probably a wise move they called Red "Pokemon Trainer", in that way they could do that easily and just make the Gen VI trainer as a "Pokemon Trainer".
 
He gained Psystrike while no other legendary gained a new move with Gen V. He's also getting a brand new form, despite being a Gen I Pokemon and being the star of yet another Pokemon movie. I'd say that's some what relevant.

He's also been in Smash previously, and isn't a clone.

And you still really cannot do anything with him, he is a super frivolous trophy in a game that is filled with frivolous trophies.

A brand new form is nice, if that form is somehow un-legendary that will make him super relevant yes.

As far the pokemon movie goes, zoroark was also a star of a movie.( im sorry i keep shitting on that pokemon)
 
And you still really cannot do anything with him, he is a super frivolous trophy in a game that is filled with frivolous trophies.

A brand new form is nice, if that form is somehow un-legendary that will make him super relevant yes.

As far the pokemon movie goes, zoroark was also a star of a movie.( im sorry i keep shitting on that pokemon.

I'm not understanding what you're trying to say exactly. Are you saying Legendary = not relevant?

And my point about the movie was that he is a Gen I Pokemon starring in another movie, it's not the same by comparison to Zoroark.
 
Poor zoroark. Being event exclusive for a while and having sub par stats probably didn't help it's popularity. Oh well at lease zoura is still loved.
 
I'm not understanding what you're trying to say exactly. Are you saying Legendary = not relevant?

And my point about the movie was that he is a Gen I Pokemon starring in another movie, it's not the same by comparison to Zoroark.

Yes, In the grand scheme, in game you can't really do anything with them, and in the anime movies it is always self contained and leads to nothing. And the regular anime is already like that so that is saying something.

They can do things in the movie and in the games to give him more umph that the other legendaries. My example, making his new form Un-Legendary, so now you can use Buu-two anywhere. Or maybe his new form does something else, but as it stands him being in a movie doesn't really make him any different than any other legendaries, a self contained well animated fight and a trophy.

Poor zoroark. Being event exclusive for a while and having sub par stats probably didn't help it's popularity. Oh well at lease zoura is still loved.

Yeah and its ability is kinda of... dumb.
 
I'm kind of curious how Pokemon representation is going to go about. Lucario was a known entity for years prior to Brawl's release, way longer than anything from Gen 6 has in terms of SSB4's release. I don't think a Gen 6 rep is a forgone conclusion and I would not count Gen 5 out yet.
 
I'm kind of curious how Pokemon representation is going to go about. Lucario was a known entity for years prior to Brawl's release, way longer than anything from Gen 6 has in terms of SSB4's release. I don't think a Gen 6 rep is a forgone conclusion and I would not count Gen 5 out yet.

Who do they have Lucario took zoroark's spot.

Although

Muppet pokemon lets go!
 
I'm kind of curious how Pokemon representation is going to go about. Lucario was a known entity for years prior to Brawl's release, way longer than anything from Gen 6 has in terms of SSB4's release. I don't think a Gen 6 rep is a forgone conclusion and I would not count Gen 5 out yet.

Did you not see Sakurai's interview on the subject? Because X & Y aren't out yet, he's going to use upcoming promotion, movies and anime episodes to determine what Pokemon is going to be relevant going forward. That strongly implied X & Y representation, although it could be just Mewtwo's new form (Movie, new tv special).
 
I'm kind of curious how Pokemon representation is going to go about. Lucario was a known entity for years prior to Brawl's release, way longer than anything from Gen 6 has in terms of SSB4's release. I don't think a Gen 6 rep is a forgone conclusion and I would not count Gen 5 out yet.

This is what I mean for Pokemon. XY won't be having a long airtime vs Gen 4, unless Smash 4 came out in Winter 2014, and even then the gap isn't as big as Gen 4. Popularity won't be as notable as seen in Lucario's.

I just want me some another robot damnit! Gimme Genesect (or Golurk, but really, they'd put in Golurk?)

Did you not see Sakurai's interview on the subject? Because X & Y aren't out yet, he's going to use upcoming promotion, movies and anime episodes to determine what Pokemon is going to be relevant going forward. That strongly implied X & Y representation, although it could be just Mewtwo's new form (Movie, new tv special).

Or Sylveon (movie, always in the anime, flagship new type bearer)
 
Did you not see Sakurai's interview on the subject? Because X & Y aren't out yet, he's going to use upcoming promotion, movies and anime episodes to determine what Pokemon is going to be relevant going forward. That strongly implied X & Y representation, although it could be just Mewtwo's new form (Movie, new tv special).

It'd be nice if we could have one rep per generation, but brawl repped gen 1 3 times and gen 4 w/ lucario, but no gen 2/3 reps other thank pokeballs.

Can't really cut pikachu/Jiggly, so we're already double dipping, and I think 7+ pokemon reps would be pretty bad.
 
It'd be nice if we could have one rep per generation, but brawl repped gen 1 3 times and gen 4 w/ lucario, but no gen 2/3 reps other thank pokeballs.

Can't really cut pikachu/Jiggly, so we're already double dipping, and I think 7+ pokemon reps would be pretty bad.

Pikachu's more of a general franchise rep since he's the series mascot, and you could make the case that Pokemon Trainer is a gen 3 rep since he has his FR/LG design :P
 
Is it true that there is a Smash fan or fans that like ALL of Nintendo stuff and is knowledgeable to their inner workings (i.e. a Pokefan, Zelda fan, Mairo fan, etc.)? Because I like Smash but you won't see me liking all of the featured franchises.

You can't put ONE Eevee form without fan outrage that they chose the wrong one.

that's the beauty of it.

Then the solution would be to put in flareon.

Flareon auto loses
 
Pikachu's more of a general franchise rep since he's the series mascot, and you could make the case that Pokemon Trainer is a gen 3 rep since he has his FR/LG design :P

I like the way you think, let's get Hitmonlee in this bish! I mean.. he's practically a character in Smash already lol

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Is it true that there is a Smash fan or fans that like ALL of Nintendo stuff and is knowledgeable to their inner workings (i.e. a Pokefan, Zelda fan, Mairo fan, etc.)? Because I like Smash but you won't see me liking all of the featured franchises.

Fire Emblem is a blind spot for me (I know relatively little of the series outside of Awakening and the names/designs of characters). But I'm a pretty big fan of all the Nintendo reps from Brawl... Mario, Zelda, Kirby, Pokemon, Pikmin, Mother, Metroid are all big for me, and at the very least I'm familiar with Star Fox and F-Zero and played the games of the classic reps.

I'd be very surprised if there were a lot of people who were massive fans of all of them, though.
 
Is it true that there is a Smash fan or fans that like ALL of Nintendo stuff and is knowledgeable to their inner workings (i.e. a Pokefan, Zelda fan, Mairo fan, etc.)? Because I like Smash but you won't see me liking all of the featured franchises.

I actually like all the featured franchises to some degree.

Wait no , ice climbers and rob never mind.
 
Is it true that there is a Smash fan or fans that like ALL of Nintendo stuff and is knowledgeable to their inner workings (i.e. a Pokefan, Zelda fan, Mairo fan, etc.)? Because I like Smash but you won't see me liking all of the featured franchises.

Don't care about F-Zero and Star Fox. Never played Earthbound (European), didn't have a ROB or Game And Watches, don't care about Wii Fit, I think that about covers it.

Edit: and I forgot the Ice Climbers. Sounds about right :p

The rest I love (I prefer the Wario Land series to Wario Ware, tho I love the GBA and DS ones)
 
People still making this mistake to this day!?

There's still no specific answer on if Zelda literally transforms into another person or if she's just disguised.

Hell the manga actually had Shiek be a unique male character that Zelda was transformed into for her own protection without any memory of Zelda.

It also doesn't really matter all that much :P
 
There's still no specific answer on if Zelda literally transforms into another person or if she's just disguised.

Hell the manga actually had Shiek be a unique male character that Zelda was transformed into for her own protection without any memory of Zelda.

It also doesn't really matter all that much :P

For I identify shiek as a she because I am pretty sure it is the same voice actor just doing a super deep voice. So in my mind it is just her pretending to be a man rather than her actually being a man, which is actually the case so yeah.

Her pain and death screams is guess is where the magic wears off.
 
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