Dota 2 Beta Thread V: Real Talk Strikes Back [Tutorials]

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traveler

Not Wario
I'm still working on my Swiss-Army Axe for Axe that will have a unique Culling Blade animation for each hero dunked. Chopping down Treant, golfswinging Wisp, stealing Rubicks staff and slaming him with it, etc.

/my dreams :(

In all seriousness, I would like to try to craft just one item to see if I could do it.
 
You can get vanguard on many melee heroes, the most important aspect is timing though. A quick 7 minute Vanguard lets you dive really hard, so it's not that bad really. After 15min it loses it's appeal though. I've been going sange lately instead of vaguard on Axe. I like the buildup to halberd.

But yes, axe and BB are the most common Vanguard carriers, where it's actually viable.

Which hero is vanguard viable? I'm thinking Axe and BB early game.

Yeah axe is better off going for heaven's halberd imo, call already gives 40 armor (so shield block isn't really useful on him), heaven's halberd is like a slightly more expensive vanguard with way more late game potential. I had won a game just by shutting down some manta carries with it recently on axe. Its rare that people focus axe already, so heaven's halberd is acceptable in order to screw up enemy carries. Not to mention evasion isn't easily dealt with and cannot be reduced unless you're hexed, and if you're getting hexed instead of a support or carry, that is a positive.

On bristleback I prefer to go urn early, maybe buy a vit booster to build into heart later. Urn is a god send on roaming/ganking bristleback, you can tower dive and recover health easily, and it boosts your mana regen (iirc BB has the highest int growth of any strength hero, so urn is a great pickup over ring of basilus, which loses in gains after 33 int). You could do the same thing on axe. Ring of health really isn't needed if you go tranquil boots on axe anyway, and urn is sufficient for regening health on bristleback.
 

Procarbine

Forever Platinum
Do we have a Marvel theme going on? I approve.

No marvel theme, the captain of d2g said he was going to punish us for our "greedy" play in the first round. We have a new set of banners for the next round.

EDIT: All of you guys linking profiles for invites to the gaf guild, dunno who started it but it doesn't do anything. We have to invite you in-game, so ask in the NeoGAF chat channel.
 

KingKong

Member
Just had a card drop in a normal game. Got YYF this time :D

they're not marketable though, there goes my plan to make mad money from Dendi cards
 

Radec

Member
26-22 @ 25mins in with full base towers.

and VP just GG after losing at rosh pit.

dafuq did I just watch.
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JustinBB7

Member
I think the deal with player cards is you need to play a compendium match once before they drop in normal games. Not 100% sure though. Think I read cyborgmatt saying something like that.

After you played a compendium match you get them in normal matches a lot.
 

Punto

Neo Member
I think the deal with player cards is you need to play a compendium match once before they drop in normal games. Not 100% sure though. Think I read cyborgmatt saying something like that.

After you played a compendium match you get them in normal matches a lot.

Not true. I got one card before actually playing the compendium matchmaking.
 

Phatmac

Member
I think the deal with player cards is you need to play a compendium match once before they drop in normal games. Not 100% sure though. Think I read cyborgmatt saying something like that.

After you played a compendium match you get them in normal matches a lot.
I got a card and I don't own a compendium.
 

KingKong

Member
Has anyone gotten that Smeevil egg thing yet? Not sure which Smeevil I want to unlock with my treat before i know how rare the mounts are

Also, with the whole fantasy points and the fact that these player cards will give some kind of reward for using them, the Compendium is a ton of value for $10. It will probably reach the next goal for the mythical item too
 

Nokterian

Member
I think the deal with player cards is you need to play a compendium match once before they drop in normal games. Not 100% sure though. Think I read cyborgmatt saying something like that.

After you played a compendium match you get them in normal matches a lot.

Nope..just got one doing normal matchmaking.
 

The Technomancer

card-carrying scientician
It was pretty fun being on EG side, my team almost pulled it off but we made a EG throw in the worst posible moment,

It just really wasn't for me. I thought it could be fun in a kind of underdog, pub-reversal kind of way, but nope, magnus, Nyx Keeper and Druid is miserable to play against no matter how you shake it
 

Anteo

Member
It just really wasn't for me. I thought it could be fun in a kind of underdog, pub-reversal kind of way, but nope, magnus, Nyx Keeper and Druid is miserable to play against no matter how you shake it

You do need good comunication to pull it off, I was lucky that my team actually tried to win the game. The next game I was on the Dire side and we got destroyed. My new team was awful and I was gettng some nasty lag spikes =/
 

KingKong

Member
So at about how many wins do people start denying? I'm getting matched with 25-40 win people and I'm the only one with more than one or two denies, it's crazy. It's not like it's that hard, it's exactly the same as last hitting

Shit, I played a compendium game with people with 150+ wins and they didn't deny either except for one person
 

Drkirby

Corporate Apologist
So at about how many wins do people start denying? I'm getting matched with 25-40 win people and I'm the only one with more than one or two denies, it's crazy. It's not like it's that hard, it's exactly the same as last hitting

Shit, I played a compendium game with people with 150+ wins and they didn't deny either except for one person
Most of my games people average about 5 denies each. People will auto attack allied creeps to try and pull back the lane, but rarely time it to actually get the deny.
 

aeolist

Banned
So at about how many wins do people start denying? I'm getting matched with 25-40 win people and I'm the only one with more than one or two denies, it's crazy. It's not like it's that hard, it's exactly the same as last hitting

Shit, I played a compendium game with people with 150+ wins and they didn't deny either except for one person

i've played like 22 matches and i deny as much as i can, even though i suck at it

but then i mostly play hard support and want my lane partner to get all the farm, i'm just there to harass and deny
 

snack

Member
For the range, there used to be a console input where we could see the circular area for our range. Now it's no longer available right? I heard it is now a cheat command?
 

Des0lar

will learn eventually
For the range, there used to be a console input where we could see the circular area for our range. Now it's no longer available right? I heard it is now a cheat command?

correct

On bristleback I prefer to go urn early, maybe buy a vit booster to build into heart later. Urn is a god send on roaming/ganking bristleback, you can tower dive and recover health easily, and it boosts your mana regen (iirc BB has the highest int growth of any strength hero, so urn is a great pickup over ring of basilus, which loses in gains after 33 int). You could do the same thing on axe. Ring of health really isn't needed if you go tranquil boots on axe anyway, and urn is sufficient for regening health on bristleback.

Need that hood on BB yo, fools hitting yo back with spells, you laugh it off like a G
 

Kenaras

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Wow; Shadow Shaman, Warlock, and Tidehunter pickups by Dignitas. Haven't seen any of those heroes very much in recent competitive Dota; could be an interesting game.
 
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